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Lonake
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posted December 30, 2011 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ It's for the show. Jones has a loverly Air grand trine, incl Saturn, working for him. He's good.

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posted December 30, 2011 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is getting me to thinking about my Nessus placement now.

Nessus (Cancer) in my Natal is square Pluto/Mars (Libra ... Venus is part of that stellium, but is 3 degrees out from the Nessus square orb). That and the Saturn(Virgo)/Ascendant(Sagittarius) square.

IQ, in your research, has there been any notable positive developments from such squares in a single chart? Or is this an influence I should be watchful for in future relationships or encounters? Like something I should curb.

Admittedly I have been known to get ... I guess "smothering" is the word... when I get feelings for someone. Something I've tried to curb, which has gotten easier recently since for the time being I've been kinda "to hell with it. Not looking." lately.

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posted December 31, 2011 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithpluto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:

If any girl is thinking about this kind of work, she must ensure there is no dangerous Nessus affliction or exact Pluto square.


Oh dear, I have Nessus in cancer 20'43 square my Pluto in libra 19'13! Nope, not gona be in this line of work.. Not pretty enough.

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posted December 31, 2011 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
^ It's for the show. Jones has a loverly Air grand trine, incl Saturn, working for him. He's good.

OH yes I know he is a good guy but his stress level I dont think is acting, I do think he works so hard that he has become more and more bold and gained a bunch of weight resulting in him looking like he is 40 something or 50 instead of 34 or 35 which is his age if I remember correctly. Check out a pic of him 10 years ago and compare to a current pic.

When I found out he was in his middle 30s I couldn't believe it. It was hard for me to swallow, I honestly thought he was close to 50. I dont think he fakes his stress. He has like ranting episodes while he is raising awareness in his shows bc the pooor guy needs to vent the frustration of what he is fighting for somehow or he will go crazy.

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posted December 31, 2011 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ He has Mars sq Sun/Jupiter. Sun/Jupiter alone accounts for a weight problem, not uncommon.

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Mars square or opposition Jupiter
This aspect brings great impulsiveness, insatiable desires, playfulness, and daring. You might be frequently trying to prove yourself, to others and/or yourself, and thus readily take on a challenge. You desire exciting experiences and may rarely be satisfied with your life as it is. You require much space and freedom, and you demand to be treated with fairness. You need to be careful that your behavior is deserving of these liberties, and that you treat others with the same respect. Many people with this position tend to flee when angry. This is not because they are afraid of confrontation, because they certainly are not, but when they are frustrated, a deep inner restlessness is stirred. Some people with this position can be quite self-serving, often without even realizing it, demanding freedom and space from others but not necessarily returning the favor.

Another negative expression of Mars square Jupiter and Mars opposition Jupiter is a haughty or boastful attitude--some with this aspect in their birth charts feel they can get away with practically anything. Often they can, and even when they don't, they are quick to recover from losses. However, this is generally due to a tendency to turn a blind eye to what has happened. Here again is the tendency to flee rather than reflect. They are quick to forget or ignore their mistakes, thus the chances of repeating them run high!

Your impulsiveness combined with a competitive streak can incline you to gambling, not just with money. Your sex drive is considerable, and some with this position never feel they have enough, or enough experiences, which can lead to sexual promiscuity for some. You would benefit greatly from more time for self-reflection, as you don't always see your behavior clearly. When you don't learn from your mistakes, you repeat them.

You are attracted to adventure, exploration, and conquest. There is a real spirit of adventure with Mars-Jupiter aspects, but because these planets are in challenging aspect, there can be difficulty knowing when to stop, and slowing down long enough to feel satisfied with one's accomplishments. Dieters are encouraged to slow down while eating a meal so that they can know when they are full and satisfied. If they eat too quickly, they are likely to eat more than they need. Similarly, people with Mars in hard aspect to Jupiter would benefit from slowing down and reflecting on their experiences so that they avoid living life feeling they have never had enough. This can also help to avoid this position's tendency to be accident-prone. Males with this position might be difficult to domesticate! There can be exaggerated "masculine" traits, including an insatiable need to "hunt".

You are very resilient, bouncing back from any setback quickly and usually in a stronger position. You are quite playful and humorous, love to joke around, enjoy practical jokes, and are quick to smile and laugh.



^ Pretty much sums him up. This is his natural pace. The sq to Sun just emphasizes it. People can't change their energy levels.

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posted December 31, 2011 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL OMG that describes him too well! Thanks

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posted December 31, 2011 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear BlackSeraph,
I will explain your Nessus in the Asteroids Thread. And there is a big positive for Nessus squares when there are other positives in the chart. How do you think I am able to nail sociopaths and psychopaths?

Hi ChironRising,
Heakte does have a valid "meeting at the crossroads" interpretation. When afflcited, you have to think: Who are you meeting at the crossroads? You certainly do not want to meet a Psychic Vampire [Afflcited Lilith Kaali or Lucifer].

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I have kaali conjunct mars...mars is trine pluto...mars is in the 10th house in pisces,
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This is very sexual, quite encouraging for Kundalini Yoga [with adequate grounding].
Full of psychic energy. However, nothing to indicate you will be abused or attacked.

BTW, I am seeing many Node-Axis squares to personal planets in charts of victims.

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posted December 31, 2011 04:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems that mars square jupiter does dictate his pace and need to keep accomplishing and proving himself and explains why he fights for freedom so zealously...this natural pace of his explains why he doesn't have a stop bottom and people that don't have stop bottoms keep going even if they are tired or haven't slept enough. It explains his passion for his work (constitutionalist conservative, freedom lover) and workaholism (great need to accomplish to prove himself and no stop bottom) and it definitely explains the ranting episodes he exhibits often in his show.

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posted December 31, 2011 06:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting Tidbits:
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Katie Michaels made $30,000.00 in one night, this is like some sort of official world record for a Vegas Hooker.
She has Venus in 0.05 Capricorn, Sun conjunct Pluto in Scorpio and Jupiter conjunct LUST!
Interestingly, though she has a 2 degree orb Nessus square Venus, she also has a Nessus conjunct ABUNDANTIA working in her favor!


Victoria Givens holds the most dangerous and painful pornographic world record.
In her chart, she has:
Saturn conjunct LUCIFER exact.
Mercury and Venus Retrograde conjunct exact.
Nodal Axis squares Nessus exact.
Kaali opposes Vesta exact
Sun sextiles Mars in Pisces near exact.


Another world record holder in exceptionally risky pornography is Ariana Joilee and she has:
Kaali sextile Saturn exact and likely to oppose Moon. [Ascendant likely conjunct Serpentis]
EROS square DEJANIRA exact.
Jupiter square VESTA exact.
Neptune square Venus, Venus square JUNO.
So many afflictions, and a Mercury Retrograde as well. No Nessus affliction, thus no abuse issues in life prior to career.

I think she is MK-Ultra or Mind Controlled. She is of mixed heritage, and such people if they have a conflcited childhood can be programmed through ELF waves into accepting an Alter that submits to taking part in dehumanizing porn.

A Rare Case of a Pornstar who died in a car crash prior to her Saturn Return, Julie Robbins:
Pluto conjunct KAALI is exact. Squared by? NESSUS. Exact.
Mars and DEJANIRA are conjunct.
Uranus opposes VESTA exact.
Neptune squares Saturn [generational aspect]

During the crash: Uranus was on her South Node and squared by EROS exact. KAALI was simultaneously squaring DEJANIRA. A Ritual Sacrifice?


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posted December 31, 2011 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here's one I'm wondering about:

Jenny McCarthy. Didn't she start off as a Playboy Playmate and manage to make the transition to mainstream media without it destroying her chances?

Also, may as well as ask about this one: Ron Jeremy. I've heard he has a Master's degree, but got into the business to "put a nice face on porn." Also, he too managed to get mainstream exposure (i.e. The Boondock Saints)

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posted January 01, 2012 05:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I did research Ron Jeremy's chart. He and Peter North do have some anomalous aspects that motivate them to do what they do. Ron has some serious psychological issues.

I have not studied Jenny Mccarthy though.

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posted January 01, 2012 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ladyvi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by iQ:
@Ladyvi, pls post your chart in the Asteroids Forum with: HEKATE [100], Nessus, KAALI [4227], LILITH [1181], LUST [4386], ABUNDANTIA [151], FORTUNA [19], DEJANIRA [157], KARMA [3811] and JUNO.

@Sand: Pls do the same thing, I will try to explain in brief

@MVM: I should have been clearer, Nessus square personal planet exact or Pluto squared personal exact. One needs to take that as a sign to be careful/aware, and then plunge into the activity to avert any tragic outcome.
Marco Simoncelli did not consult an astrologer and raced when his anaretic Sun was squared by transit Anaretic Sun just when 4 deadly Asteroid Afflictions were in progress in his Natal[Saturn on Lucifer, Moira on Rudra, Venus square Anubis, Anubis quinuncx Sun, SIva square Mars, all together. Individually they are ok but all together it is a disaster.]. With awareness of the transit, the tragedy could have been minimized. He need not have died even if he raced that day knowing not to take too much risk.



I posted my chart in the asteroids section! Thanks so much!

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posted January 05, 2012 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lindsay Lohan: From child fashion model to singer to actress to Playboy model. She might become the next big pornstar.

In her chart:
Uranus trine MESSALINA conjunct LUCIFER conjunct Venus.
A Nymphomania red flag.

LILITH quincunx Venus exact
and KAALI conjunct DNA exact.. connected to a royal Windsor bloodline ?

LUST trine NESSUS exact. No chance of trauma based sexual abuse.

Pluto square Mercury exact. Sex stirs the Mind.

Sun square Karma exact. Some strong negative debts.


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posted January 05, 2012 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i haven't seen her playboy shots but that would be a first for an actress to switch to porn i think. i know sasha grey was in the girlfriend experience directed by steven soderberg.

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posted January 06, 2012 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sasha Grey has scary "programming" aspects in her chart. Very few top level porn-stars are free from harsh aspects. The legendary Nina Hartley is an example. She loves her job, chose it of her own free will and even wrote one of the best books on sex. No abusive aspects in her chart, even though strong sexual energy aspects were available.

Here is another interesting case. A rape victim [raped by her male friend after a party], who transformed herself with Tantra (after a failed marriage) into a compassionate sexual healer/therapist, and has had sex with over 1500 men to help them become better lovers: Mare Simon.
If I got her chart information right, it is 29th October 1954.

Nessus quincunx JUNO exact with Uranus conjunct DEJANIRA exact explain the sudden assault. Venus and Mercury are both retrograde. Sun and Venus are in Scorpio, that is strong sexuality. Sun sextile EROS is exact, Sun square Mars in Aquarius is exact, and is very sexual and quite detached as well.
The Tantra is indicated by KAALI square JUNO exact and Pluto square LILITH exact.
The sexual healing is shown by VESTA trine LUST excat and HYGIEA trine Chiron [less than 2 degrees orb].

And I am going to be flamed by Asteroid opponents for days if she turns out to be born on 1955


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posted January 06, 2012 10:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks iq..you are right about hecate and vampires. Theme of my life almost.

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Bump

See I have these friends who moved to Vegas... A Virgo and a Pisces, one is an Aqua moon, one is another Sag moon. We were always sort of partners in crime (not literally, but you know) and I have student loans that I'd like to get rid of... sooner than later. I've done my research and if you have the "image" some girls make up to 100k a year just standing around serving drinks. Even though it's something I wouldn't have seriously considered going through with just a year ago, life has gotten pretty weird lately. I don't want to be a stripper and I won't do porn, or sleep with anyone to get ahead.. and I'm not naïve. But I've always secretly wondered about putting my Cancer Asc "figure" to practical use, maybe working at hooters or something lol. But in that case there's more money to be made even as a cocktail waitress in a place like vegas...

Anyway I have Aqua Venus in 8th opposite Leo Jupiter in 2nd. Lust conjunct Eros in Scorpio 5th house, widely square Venus. Aphrodite conjunct Eros. Kaali conjunct moon and trine Jupiter. Hekate sextile Nessus. Asteroid Lilith conjunct dejanira, both square Mars exact.. which is interesting. So idk I might edit this later but just thought this is an interesting thread

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posted December 27, 2013 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah, i don't buy your theory of 6th house ruler aspects deciding your career. Because my 6th house ruler is a bit unaspected, if you don't count a 7 degree trine and 6 degree conjunction (an outer planet, anyways). That does not mean i have no career, lol.

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posted December 27, 2013 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
FireMoon,

I have a Cancer ASC and Aqua Venus too. You'll make far far more than $100K by just using your education and your brains in a meaningful profession. Yes, good looks come in very handy for advancement too. Starting salaries for newly minted lawyers at the top firms exceed $200K.

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posted December 27, 2013 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a couple of sugar daddies, and did the escort thing a few years back.

Sag Sun, Aries Moon.

Venus Cap conjunct Jupiter in the 2nd house.

Mars in Aqua. Mars, the ruler of my 5th, is located in my 2nd house, square Saturn and Pluto.

*Yep, both Venus and Mars in my 2nd house! lol*

Lilith in Aries conjunct Moon (ruler of my 8th house)

Also, the ruler of my 2nd house is in the 12th.

I've read a bunch of places that Venus in Cap is sometimes considered a "prostitute" placement because we can separate our feelings from sex, and associate love/affection with money.

I can relate to that. I really don't see anything wrong with sex for money, as long as it's safe.

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Earth sign thing. Those signs place a lot of importance on material possessions. Without some markers in the chart to give some degree of self-control I can entirely see them doing anything - ANYthing - for financial benefit or to "come up in the world".

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Originally posted by ariestaurus:

I've read a bunch of places that Venus in Cap is sometimes considered a "prostitute" placement because we can separate our feelings from sex, and associate love/affection with money.

I can relate to that. I really don't see anything wrong with sex for money, as long as it's safe.



Absolutely, people are entitled to do what they want with their own bodies. But I think for the average person that doesn't consider finances paramount, engaging in sexual activity with someone you don't know, aren't attracted to, and have no feelings for is a less than appealing concept especially if you think about the explicit details of what sex, IS. Letting a stranger put their privates on or in your mouth, being penetrated and pumped by this person, because you want them to toss some money on the nightstand next to you at the end so you can buy that snazzy new handbag.

Yes I was being graphic. Intentionally so, because I think movies like "Pretty Woman" glamorize prostitution and make it seem like less than what it is, which is sharing yourself with someone you don't even care about in the most intimate physical way possible, for a few bucks.

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posted December 27, 2013 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarlightSmileSupreme     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:
Earth sign thing. Those signs place a lot of importance on material possessions. Without some markers in the chart to give some degree of self-control I can entirely see them doing anything - ANYthing - for financial benefit or to "come up in the world".

Not Virgo.

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posted December 27, 2013 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IMoppedtheFloor:

Absolutely, people are entitled to do what they want with their own bodies. But I think for the average person that doesn't consider finances paramount, engaging in sexual activity with someone you don't know, aren't attracted to, and have no feelings for is a less than appealing concept especially if you think about the explicit details of what sex, IS. Letting a stranger put their privates on or in your mouth, being penetrated and pumped by this person, because you want them to toss some money on the nightstand next to you at the end so you can buy that snazzy new handbag.

Yes I was being graphic. Intentionally so, because I think movies like "Pretty Woman" glamorize prostitution and make it seem like less than what it is, which is sharing yourself with someone you don't even care about in the most intimate physical way possible, for a few bucks.


I totally understand your perspective, and can certainly see how some people find it gross/immoral.

However, I think sex can be sacred and intimate, but on the other hand, sex can just be sex. To me, it completely depends on who I'm having sex with. If I care about the person, the sex is sacred and intimate, but with those guys, it was just a quick bang. I truly see real sex and escort sex as two very separate things.

Regardless, I completely respect your perspective! The majority of the people I know think just like you.

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posted December 28, 2013 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Coffee:
Pluto in exact or close aspect to 6th ruler. This how to look for job in the natal chart. A writer or singer would have Mercury (writing or singing) in close or exact aspect to 6th ruler.

I have the inconjunct by 1. this doesn't apply to me. I don't even wear low cut shirts

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