posted January 02, 2012 11:43 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
if you meant to ask if i speak japanese then its hanashimasu...dekimasu means "can" as in "able to" lol

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posted January 03, 2012 12:03 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Which is exactly what I meant to ask.

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"anata wa, nihongo o hanashimasu ka?"

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted January 03, 2012 12:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Hi Mert,

What is "right"?

Both physics and spirituality seem to point to the idea that "all objects arise out of the conditions which cause them". How one views the conditions of the past, the conditions in the present, and their potential trajectory is based completely on one's individual perspective (which is a product of that individual's experiences and physiological capacities).

If reincarnation exists, then time/space is a relative experience and existence is actually timeless. If existence is timeless, then all experiences are possible (because in infinite space and infinite time, all possibilities are possible). If all experiences are possible, then all experiences have the same value (experience + you = learning). Aren't all experiences therefor "right" or "wrong" based on how one views the experience? And if that is true, wouldn't morality therefore also be relative (a disabled mother who steals food for her starving children, but became disabled after killing another family in a drunk driving accident... is a good example of this concept)?

If this were the case, how can anything on the "Source level" be considered valid or invalid, when validity is a "human concept" based on the way we perceive and judge life? Stars gobble up solar systems like ours every day (potentially annihilating the bodies of trillions of living creatures every time you blink your eye). The "Source" I assume (if omnipotent), exists within both the creatures and the star, regardless of their position is space and time (astrological charts).

If "ultimate source" is ultimate, then even "not source" is part of "ultimate source". that being said, even experiences which serve to separate an individual, will eventually result in reunification. If that were the case then I would expect what you choose to learn may be less important than how deeply you experience it.

That's how I would see it, thanks for posing the question.

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posted January 03, 2012 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Hi Mert,

What is "right"?

If "ultimate source" is ultimate, then even "not source" is part of "ultimate source". that being said, even experiences which serve to separate an individual, will eventually result in reunification. If that were the case then I would expect what you choose to learn may be less important than how deeply you experience it.

That's how I would see it, thanks for posing the question.

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Thank you for the post!
Please, could you elaborate further on "how deeply you experience it" part?

As for the original question, I think that it's about the journey, not the destination. As Xiiro as eloquently put it, everything is part of the source. I just remembered my experience from last year - which I think was a reuniting with the "Source" in some way. It's hard to put in into words, but "all it is" is also "nothing". It makes sense that the "nothing" separated, so it could experience itself in various forms of "it is".

posted January 03, 2012 04:30 PM            

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Originally posted by NickiG:
if you meant to ask if i speak japanese then its hanashimasu...dekimasu means "can" as in "able to" lol

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actually, it's acceptable both ways. YTA said it more colloquially. both are fine though.

posted January 03, 2012 04:37 PM            

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Originally posted by lechien:
actually, it's acceptable both ways. YTA said it more colloquially. both are fine though.

and just one tiny thing. "hanaSE masuka" would be perfect.

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well, the dictionary spells it hanashimasu, and i think the pronounciation variation counts

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted January 03, 2012 06:53 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Thank you for the post!
Please, could you elaborate further on "how deeply you experience it" part?

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Hi Maira,

How an individual deepens their experiences seems (to me) to also be based on the individual. Perhaps a person believes living a devoutly religious life results in a deeper understanding of their experiences. Perhaps another person believes full immersion in sensual pleasure equates to a deep experience of reality. I believe it comes down to the person's individual perspective and tastes. Buddhist ideas tend to resonate well for me, in which case a person learns to identify and resolve their attachments and aversions. By doing so, the person is able to accept experiences as they arise and fall away, unimpeded and with equanimity.

When I was a teenager I was sleeping in the day (as teenagers do) and I dreamed someone knelt down by my bed, kissed me on the cheek, and whispered, "When you were born, I whispered The Answer into your ear". I woke up and a ray of sunlight was resting on my cheek; having poked through the blanket covered window. I spent years pondering what that meant, and originally believed I was destined to uncover some message for humanity. Later I discovered it to mean that we all have our own worlds which contain their own answers. This was a rough concept for me to grasp, having such a strong habit for wanting to find definite and generalized protocols for the resolution of everyone's problems. Haha

posted January 03, 2012 08:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Hi Maira,

How an individual deepens their experiences seems (to me) to also be based on the individual. Perhaps a person believes living a devoutly religious life results in a deeper understanding of their experiences. Perhaps another person believes full immersion in sensual pleasure equates to a deep experience of reality. I believe it comes down to the person's individual perspective and tastes. Buddhist ideas tend to resonate well for me, in which case a person learns to identify and resolve their attachments and aversions. By doing so, the person is able to accept experiences as they arise and fall away, unimpeded and with equanimity.

When I was a teenager I was sleeping in the day (as teenagers do) and I dreamed someone knelt down by my bed, kissed me on the cheek, and whispered, "When you were born, I whispered The Answer into your ear". I woke up and a ray of sunlight was resting on my cheek; having poked through the blanket covered window. I spent years pondering what that meant, and originally believed I was destined to uncover some message for humanity. Later I discovered it to mean that we all have our own worlds which contain their own answers. This was a rough concept for me to grasp, having such a strong habit for wanting to find definite and generalized protocols for the resolution of everyone's problems. Haha

That view seems to work for me at present. =)

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Wow, that is such a beautiful experience!
Thank you for sharing and also thank you so much for answering my question!

I resonate with Buddhism also. It summarizes very well how I feel about the order of things (I share the habit of wanting organized structures instead of chaos). The current transit of Saturn in my 1st has surprisingly brought more acceptance instead of structure - Romans had a phrase for this Buddhist concept (later used by Nietzsche), "Amor fati". It means to accept one's fate.

When I had my "being everything/non-being" experience, amongst other things, I realized that the absolute truth was made from all the other truths and therefore, it did not exist. Everything was valid. It was more a state, a perception if I can call it that, rather than thinking or reason. I looked it up later and in Buddhism it is called the ninth jhāna. I never meditate and it happened spontaneously. But I did want to go to India six years ago, to learn and practice a spiritual discipline. Although it never happened, I think that it comes down to "fate" - it was mine to have this experience with or without physically searching for it.

posted January 03, 2012 09:45 PM            

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Originally posted by lechien:
"hanaSHI masuka" is ok too. they are all ok. just different variations. "hanaSHI masuka" means "DO you speak" as you know it. "hanaSE masuka" means "CAN you speak", which is not commonly said in English but they do often prefer this way in Japanese. "deki masuka" means simply "can you do" and this is very colloquial.

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well...whatever i believe hanashimasu is much more formal and best for foreigners to know

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted January 04, 2012 06:48 PM            

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Originally posted by lechien:
sure... i thought it might be useful info if you are learning the language. but it's better to have it simple than bothering the detail like this in the beginning, true. good luck.

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it was helpful, thanks....from my studies so far that little tidbit hasnt come up

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted January 04, 2012 08:34 PM            

do you know it fluently?

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted January 04, 2012 08:58 PM            

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?