posted January 05, 2012 12:46 PM            

what makes someone the opposite?

posted January 05, 2012 01:25 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
isn't ceres how you were nurtured? i dunno but that doesn't always translate to the children doing dimilar with their children ryt?

ima ceres in aries h6..

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posted January 05, 2012 01:53 PM            

I think that the moon has to do with how you like to be loved and how you love so it can also give you a hint to a person's nurturing style and nurturing needs.

I would think an aspect between moon and ceres would result in someone very nurturing especially if you add chiron to the mix...so perhaps a stellium or grand trine between moon/ceres/chiron would be a very nurturing person and also someone who needs lots of nurturing.

posted January 05, 2012 02:26 PM            

also anyone ever read that leo moons don't make the best dads?

posted January 05, 2012 02:30 PM            

sun/mars/venus in cancer

my moon in geminis...

i have noticed moon in cancer tend to be nurturers.

pisces can be nurturers, but they are so moody that can just change when u need them more. specially when feel overcharged.

posted January 05, 2012 04:18 PM            

Ceres indicates how we feel we need to be nourished, and alternately becomes the way we believe we can best nourish others (example: Ceres in Gemini may feel they are best nourished when information acquisition, communication, and socialization exists. They in turn, make an effort to provide information, communicate, and socialize with others, believing it will help them feel nourished). Ceres is a goddess of harvest and agriculture, she represents the abundance that the earth just freely gives. In this way, the earth offers us nutrition, vitamins, minerals, and so on, but it is based on her whim not ours. She chooses how and when to nourish us and will shower abundance or let us starve based on her own wants. Ceres was the mother of Persephone, who plunged the world into winter until her daughter was released from the grasp of Hades. She also was attributed to rituals, protocols, and farming (or knowing how and when to work in order to best yield nourishment). She can therefor also represent the rituals, protocols, and tending we believe is required for someone to be nourished.

Moon rules our protective mechanism (among other things) and can inspire the idea "If I have a personal space which requires protection, you must have one too". Moon utilizes her facilities to either pull "that which she identifies with personally" close to her, or push "that which offends her personally" away. When she is pulling, her energy is devoted to integrating with her object as personally as possible. This requires the ability to be on the same "wavelenght" as her object. The process is similar to the concept of breastfeeding as closeness, attentiveness, and care all play a part. She must be aware of what position to hold her object in, when to stroke it's back, when it no longer requires milk, and even, when fussiness requires a little pat on the back and a burp. The Moon's ideal energy is careful, attentive, and protective.

Cancer influences equip us with an inherent peek into other people's struggles. The instinct to make their environment feel good (often because it alleviates any empathic feeling of suffering inside their own self) is part of their being ruled by the Moon. When we have Cancer influences, we have the capacity to flow with the wavelength or against the wavelength of our environment. When we flow with our environment, we are often exposed to the discomfort and suffering of others. When we flow against the wavelength, we deny our self the ability to release our own suffering as we comfort others. Cancer (being the sign directly following Gemini) is wired to function in emotional tandem with others. This means in order to be healthy, they must also tend to the energies in their environment. Without people in their environment the Cancer may feel safe, but what they are actually experiencing is a rest from moving forward (being cardinal, Cancer is best when it is out engaging and initiating). Cancer energy can also inspire the native to make their outside feel like their inside (which is great if the native feels wonderful, but not so great if the native is spreading darkness to whoever they meet). The nurturing in Cancer influences comes from the need to be immersed in and attentive to one's object of interest.

Square Aspects require one to learn how to nurture the needs of conflicting forces. This can result in learning how to nurture in general (but I wouldn't give squares too much credit unless Ceres, Moon, or Cancer/H4 are involved).

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posted January 05, 2012 04:40 PM            

PHASE 21 (ARIES 21°): A PUGILIST ENTERS THE RING.

KEYNOTE: The release and glorification of social aggressiveness.

Here we find potency glorified as muscular strength and will-to-power. Because it is potency operating at a harshly competitive level, it can and often does imply the possibility of defeat or disfiguration. In one sense the symbol translates into social terms the primordial struggle for survival of the fittest, adding to it an eagerness for social fame and social power (i.e. money). In another sense, the ring with two fighters in it can be referred to the Tai Chi symbol and the interplay between Yang and Yin. Each of the two types of energy wins in turn. Victory is always temporary in a dualistic world.

This is the first stage of the fifth five-fold sequence of cyclic phases. Potency and the two-fold possibilities inherent in any release of power are seen operating at the socio-cultural and emotional level. The symbol reveals man's deeply rooted feeling of admiration and envy for whoever can generate OVERWHELMING POWER.

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posted January 05, 2012 05:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Xiiro:
Ceres
Moon
Cancer influences
Square Aspects

Ceres indicates how we feel we need to be nourished, and alternately becomes the way we believe we can best nourish others (example: Ceres in Gemini may feel they are best nourished when information acquisition, communication, and socialization exists. They in turn, make an effort to provide information, communicate, and socialize with others, believing it will help them feel nourished). Ceres is a goddess of harvest and agriculture, she represents the abundance that the earth just freely gives. In this way, the earth offers us nutrition, vitamins, minerals, and so on, but it is based on her whim not ours. She chooses how and when to nourish us and will shower abundance or let us starve based on her own wants. Ceres was the mother of Persephone, who plunged the world into winter until her daughter was released from the grasp of Hades. She also was attributed to rituals, protocols, and farming (or knowing how and when to work in order to best yield nourishment). She can therefor also represent the rituals, protocols, and tending we believe is required for someone to be nourished.

Moon rules our protective mechanism (among other things) and can inspire the idea "If I have a personal space which requires protection, you must have one too". Moon utilizes her facilities to either pull "that which she identifies with personally" close to her, or push "that which offends her personally" away. When she is pulling, her energy is devoted to integrating with her object as personally as possible. This requires the ability to be on the same "wavelenght" as her object. The process is similar to the concept of breastfeeding as closeness, attentiveness, and care all play a part. She must be aware of what position to hold her object in, when to stroke it's back, when it no longer requires milk, and even, when fussiness requires a little pat on the back and a burp. The Moon's ideal energy is careful, attentive, and protective.

Cancer influences equip us with an inherent peek into other people's struggles. The instinct to make their environment feel good (often because it alleviates any empathic feeling of suffering inside their own self) is part of their being ruled by the Moon. When we have Cancer influences, we have the capacity to flow with the wavelength or against the wavelength of our environment. When we flow with our environment, we are often exposed to the discomfort and suffering of others. When we flow against the wavelength, we deny our self the ability to release our own suffering as we comfort others. Cancer (being the sign directly following Gemini) is wired to function in emotional tandem with others. This means in order to be healthy, they must also tend to the energies in their environment. Without people in their environment the Cancer may feel safe, but what they are actually experiencing is a rest from moving forward (being cardinal, Cancer is best when it is out engaging and initiating). Cancer energy can also inspire the native to make their outside feel like their inside (which is great if the native feels wonderful, but not so great if the native is spreading darkness to whoever they meet). The nurturing in Cancer influences comes from the need to be immersed in and attentive to one's object of interest.

Square Aspects require one to learn how to nurture the needs of conflicting forces. This can result in learning how to nurture in general (but I wouldn't give squares too much credit unless Ceres, Moon, or Cancer/H4 are involved).

Weee.

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posted January 05, 2012 06:50 PM            

I would say I'm a very good nurturer. And, yes, Scorpio Moons CAN be nurturing, despite what you may have heard. Most of the Water Moons have a innate knack for it, but it's three distinct styles.

Cancer is like the matriarch. She will protect and comfort and feed and shelter. Cancer Moons tend to really hover over the people they love, in a sometime smothering but good-intentioned way.

Scorpio is the counselor. Scorpio can heal you, strengthen you, walk hand in hand with you through your worst nightmares. As a Scorpio Moon, I am an unofficial therapist. I tend to just automatically know other people's problems and understand their suffering and their fears. Since I'm also a positive person, I have a knack for soothing that kind of pain.

And Pisces, I think of as the humanitarian. Pisces opens its arms to people of all walks of life. Cancer and Scorpio tend to be very personal and most generous to those in their inner circle. But, Pisces wants to nurture the world. I haven't known many Pisces Moons, but I imagine they don't discriminate with their generosity and give warmth and care to just about anyone.

Water Suns can be nurturing too, but the difference is that Water Suns are learning to nurture. They're developing into nurturers. Whereas it's more of an automatic, natural response with Water Moons. I think we tend to be more soft-hearted and/or guilt-driven in that way.

posted January 05, 2012 07:48 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Virgo influences,too

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I wasn't going to mention it, but this is also true. Virgo is great at finding the best way to be of service to others. I personally attribute Virgo to Ceres because the Virgo drive to nurture is based on nourishing their object, but subject to their own opinion or observation. Virgo relies on their attention to detail to provide for their object. Attention clouded by personal issues however, can result in nourishment based on what one "thinks" the object needs, as opposed to nourishment based on what the object actually needs.

posted January 06, 2012 04:43 AM            

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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I would say that I am nurturing, but NOT with children. I'm definitely not a kid-person at all.

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Do you have anything in Leo? I have seen Leo best connect with children once their personalities are developed and they are no longer "needy". My sister is a Leo and lacks a deep connection with her Sag and Cancer daughters. As they get older though, she seems to want to be more involved in their development.

posted January 06, 2012 05:33 AM            

I can relate to you. I don't think I want children of my own either. I'm afraid I have more of a "smother instinct" rather than a "mother instinct". I can hold back to this bad trait so far so good by rationalizing things, but I think it's better to raise children with the heart rather than with rationality.