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bluegreyeyes
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posted January 06, 2012 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't seem to overcome the Saturn in the 7th (Scorpio) issues with building trusting relationships. I also have Venus in Aqua in the 12th house, so not sure if that contributes at all.

I can't seem to trust anyone and I come off very guarded and cold when it comes to relationships and romance. Very much a "I don't give a F*ck about you" attitude, which I think dooms me in relationships from the start - perhaps where there was real potential for love. I hate saying the word love, and even the phrase "I Love You" said to my family members kinda freaks me out. I've certainly improved the past few years, but it's a conscious effort, not natural at all. Also, I give the people closest to me a lot of "tests" - I'll do stupid things to push them away to see who REALLY cares. I also am a "absence makes the heart grow fonder" type - I will have nothing but the kindest words and sweetest disposition once you're at an arms length from me. It's really troubling b/c I can SEE myself doing it, I just don't know how to stop it. It's like an knee jerk instinct.

I'll also admit, maybe some of my trust issues stem from a childhood with a functioning alcoholic parent. And a bad experience with a man who betrayed my trust in college....both sort left me kinda rattled.

I'm trying to get more into spirituality, and yoga and nature...hoping that will help calm me or something, I don't know what else to do.

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polysigh
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posted January 06, 2012 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for polysigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bluegreyeyes:
I can't seem to overcome the Saturn in the 7th (Scorpio) issues with building trusting relationships. I also have Venus in Aqua in the 12th house, so not sure if that contributes at all.

I can't seem to trust anyone and I come off very guarded and cold when it comes to relationships and romance. Very much a "I don't give a F*ck about you" attitude, which I think dooms me in relationships from the start - perhaps where there was real potential for love. I hate saying the word love, and even the phrase "I Love You" said to my family members kinda freaks me out. I've certainly improved the past few years, but it's a conscious effort, not natural at all. Also, I give the people closest to me a lot of "tests" - I'll do stupid things to push them away to see who REALLY cares. I also am a "absence makes the heart grow fonder" type - I will have nothing but the kindest words and sweetest disposition once you're at an arms length from me. It's really troubling b/c I can SEE myself doing it, I just don't know how to stop it. It's like an knee jerk instinct.

I'll also admit, maybe some of my trust issues stem from a childhood with a functioning alcoholic parent. And a bad experience with a man who betrayed my trust in college....both sort left me kinda rattled.

I'm trying to get more into spirituality, and yoga and nature...hoping that will help calm me or something, I don't know what else to do.


I don't have this placement but have saturn Square moon natally and I can relate to so much of what you wrote...esp. testing others, pushing people away etc. Telling someone my true feelings?? I would rather have root canal! I have always been told that I am unnecessarily guarded and aloof and untrusting. Like you, I see and feel myself doing these things but feel powerless to stop it. I think deep down, I am afraid of rejection or that the feelings will not be reciprocated. So, its just better to keep myself distant and my feelings stifled. I see the similarities in your original question and my moon/saturn issues so I am looking forward to some more responses...!!

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posted January 06, 2012 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Didn't you say in another thread that you treat your friends like family and go all out for them?

*confuzzled*

Edit: In any case, if you're looking for advice, I recommend getting with Capricorns or people with strong Saturn influence. They will play out all that Saturn energy FOR you.

Best of luck!

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bluegreyeyes
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posted January 06, 2012 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Didn't you say in another thread that you treat your friends like family and go all out for them?

*confuzzled*

Edit: In any case, if you're looking for advice, I recommend getting with Capricorns or people with strong Saturn influence. They will play out all that Saturn energy FOR you.

Best of luck!


Yep, I think my aqua sun in 11th house makes me very loyal...I see no difference between my friends & family, for my closest friends, I'd do absolutely anything. However, those are friendships that are 10-20 years old And I still don't feel comfortable expressing my feelings in those relationships, so I feel like I keep secrets sort of. My friends know I love them to death but they also know I rarely say it.

I'll take the note about Capricorns... thansk!


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hannaramaa
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posted January 06, 2012 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Didn't you say in another thread that you treat your friends like family and go all out for them?

*confuzzled*

Edit: In any case, if you're looking for advice, I recommend getting with Capricorns or people with strong Saturn influence. They will play out all that Saturn energy FOR you.

Best of luck!


Capriquarius, I value your advice so I'm asking this as well - I have Saturn actually IN Capricorn in the 7th house (if I use Placidus and not Whole Signs) but nearly every male Capricorn influenced person I know comes off very snooty, like I'm their possession and not an equal. Is this my own perception? I always gravitate towards Capricorn influenced people but I absolutely hate the way they make me feel when I'm trying to have fun.

As for bluegreyeyes (hey, that's my eye color too!) Saturn in the 7th would give you that "testy" nature. That's the point - to ferret out those who don't mean anything and develop a taste for quality, not quantity, in partnerships (or with others basically since the 7th is about other people in general and not solely romance). It also probably means you'd be better off getting married later in life vs. right now. If you don't display the characteristics of the Saturn in 7th then you'll most likely attract partners who try to fence you in. To teach you. However, the faster you mature, the faster you'll find the positive qualities in a Capricorn-ish partner. That's been my understanding about Saturn in the 7th anyway, go to Sasstrology and look up their articles. They explain it so much better lol.

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Capriquarius
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posted January 06, 2012 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ maybe you aren't suited for a Capricorn because their solar energy creates friction with your Sun/Mars.

And thanks but you seem to have much better insight.

(I'm not intimately familiar with 6th-10th House placements because they're vacant in my chart.)

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