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KarkaQueen
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posted January 07, 2012 05:53 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Feminine = Dark
Masculine = Light

Why would it make since for dark to balance out dark and for light to balance out light?

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maira
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posted January 07, 2012 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That would make them complementary, right?
Yin and Yang are opposites but also make a whole together...
Your question does make sense

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posted January 07, 2012 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They may be opposite by nature,but need same path,same direction. Same mode makes it possible.

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posted January 07, 2012 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had never thought about that...that is odd...

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posted January 07, 2012 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't even get some of the oppositions. they seem similar to me. like gem and sag. i know someone can explain why but to me they seem both fun and adventurous. curious even. i would never imagine they don't get along.

why does a t-square look like a triangle?

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maira
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posted January 07, 2012 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gem ans Sag seem like Virgo and Pisces to me... one is detail oriented while the other one looks at the bigger picture. Just imagine a conversation with a Gemini and one with a Sag.

...the triangle may be the neurotic one (victim-abuser-savior) from psychotherapy

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posted January 08, 2012 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought that before! But I just interpreted it to mean "opposition" as in spatially opposite one another, not in the sense the two signs are reciprocals/inverse.

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posted January 08, 2012 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls**     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Opposite signs are certainly reciprocal/inverse, though. Like, 2 sides of same coin, not EXACT opposites, however. For instance, Leos and Aquas are about individuality.

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posted January 08, 2012 11:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by amowls**:
Opposite signs are certainly reciprocal/inverse, though. Like, 2 sides of same coin, not EXACT opposites, however. For instance, Leos and Aquas are about individuality.

Yes ma'am! (or sir, just to be safe)

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posted January 09, 2012 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for love being Aries     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm in love with a Libra guy and I'm thinking same thing these days

we are alike. we want same things. but then he is a little more emotional (which I'm not) and sensitive (which I'm not). so he sort of is my copy, but just complimenting one! he balances me alot though.

whoever said opposites attract, was 100% right.

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posted January 09, 2012 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Yin/Yang or "Tao" archetypes are not expressed in individual signs, but in the angles of each quality. The two opposing feminine signs set the parameters for the Yin energy of a quality (Cardinal, Fixed, or Mutable) and the masculine signs set the parameters for the Yang energy. Opposing signs (as amowls** stated), are two ways of looking at one energy. The answer to the OP question starts with the hemispheres of the zodiac wheel.

Astrology "states" that things perceived on a dualistic way, are either identified as "Self", or "Other". It also "states" that when those things are being perceived, they can either be perceived "Subjectively" (meaning "as it relates to the perceiving party"), or "Objectively" (meaning "as it relates to forces outside the perceiving party"). This means there are four possible ways to perceive dualistic reality:

1. As it applies to one's self, via internal forces (thoughts, feelings, senses, and actions perceived as internal)
2. As it applies to others, via external forces (thoughts, feelings, senses, and actions perceived as external)
3. As it applies to one's self, via external forces (thoughts, feelings, senses, and actions perceived as external)
4. As it applies to others, via internal forces (thoughts, feelings, senses, and actions perceived as internal)

Signs on the Northern Hemisphere of the wheel (Aries, Taurus, Gemini, Cancer, Leo, & Virgo) view reality subjectively, where Southern Hemisphere signs (Libra, Scorpio, Sagittarius, Capricorn, Aquarius, & Pisces) view the world objectively. Additionally, the Eastern Hemisphere signs (Capricorn, Aquarius, Pisces, Aries, Taurus, & Gemini) view experience based on how it involves the self, where Western Hemisphere signs (Cancer, Leo, Virgo, Libra, Scorpio, & Sagittarius) view experience based on how it involves others.

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Each quality contains one Northeastern, one Northwestern, one Southwestern and one Southeastern sign.

Cardinal:
Aries (northeastern hemisphere) subjective/self-aware - Sees the world as it relates to the self and judges experiences based on internal forces.
Libra (southwestern hemisphere) objective/other-aware - Sees the world as it relates to others and judges experiences based on external forces.
Cancer (northwestern hemisphere) subjective/other-aware - Sees the world as it relates to the self and judges experiences based on external forces.
Capricorn (southeastern hemisphere) objective/self-aware - Sees the world as it relates to others and judges experiences based on internal forces.

Fixed:
Taurus (northeastern hemisphere) subjective/self-aware - Sees the world as it relates to the self and judges experiences based on internal forces.
Scorpio (southwestern hemisphere) objective/other-aware - Sees the world as it relates to others and judges experiences based on external forces.
Leo (northwestern hemisphere) subjective/other-aware - Sees the world as it relates to the self and judges experiences based on external forces.
Aquarius (southeastern hemisphere) objective/self-aware - Sees the world as it relates to others and judges experiences based on internal forces.

Mutable:
Gemini (northeastern hemisphere) subjective/self-aware - Sees the world as it relates to the self and judges experiences based on internal forces.
Sagittarius (southwestern hemisphere) objective/other-aware - Sees the world as it relates to others and judges experiences based on external forces.
Virgo (northwestern hemisphere) subjective/other-aware - Sees the world as it relates to the self and judges experiences based on external forces.
Pisces (southeastern hemisphere) objective/self-aware - Sees the world as it relates to others and judges experiences based on internal forces.

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All three qualities therefor outline three "Taos" (I am punching myself every time I use the word "tao" in this description. What I really mean is "synthesis of a receptive and protective energy").


The Cardinal "Tao" of Actuation:
The Yang of Aries/Libra flows between one's relationship with self and others.
The Yin of Cancer/Capricorn flows between one's personal and public spaces.

The latter is Yin, because our personal/public space is the soil within which our external relationships are planted and abide. The former is Yang, because our relationships with self and others, thrive as direct expressions of our personal and public space's health.


The Fixed "Tao" of Realization:
The Yin of Taurus/Scorpio flows between what is apparent and what is not apparent.
The Yang of Leo/Aquarius flows between what is real and what is imaginary.

The former is Yin, because that which can be quantified and that which can only be experienced are the basic foundation behind what one considers "real" and what one considers "imaginary". The latter is Yang because what we consider "real"/"imaginary" is capable of sculpting one's ability to quantify/experience and is a direct expression of our capacity for experiencing/quantifying.


The Mutable "Tao" of Refinement:
The Yang of Gemini/Sagittarius flows between samsara and dharma.
The Yin of Virgo/Pisces flows between what is constructive and what is destructive

The latter is Yin because construction/destruction are the basic soil out of which samsara (being caught up in one's mind) and dharma (the path to liberation) spring. The former is Yang, because the consequences of our actions (karma) are based on ignorance or awareness of one's constructive/destructive nature.


That's how I have seen it work at least. =)

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posted January 09, 2012 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Xiiro, so sweet, thanks for sharing that...awesome link. IT';s like a missing part of the key to astrology...

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posted January 09, 2012 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Chironrising:
Xiiro, so sweet, thanks for sharing that...awesome link. IT';s like a missing part of the key to astrology...

Astrology can get frustratingly complex if you follow it down the existential rabbit hole. I had to give it a rest for a while because I get stuck for hours pondering things like.

"In the above description, why does -
Fire have no Southeastern sign?
Earth have no Southwestern sign?
Air have no Northwestern sign?
Water have no Northeastern sign?

I wish I were better at math, because mathematical principals always seem to apply to Astrology. I have this feeling that if I were a math genius, it would all kinda just fall into place.

Alas, the tribulations of astrology nerds.

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posted January 09, 2012 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes what I do is I just literally go by the axiom above bellow...

So if i hav emars in pisces...

above - warring with art, battles involving compassion, battling for people compassionately, battling for the wrong groups, or battling for the right groups...

internal - warring with art, battling with different grops within, chsoing the internal criminal over the heroe...invoking the martyr instead of the artist,

so the archtypes are keys for me internally...as i just see the internal a reflection of the external..

it worked for me...i had an internal battle and my outside world changed when my inside one did....but there comes points where you have to bounce between both...or else you stagnate..i'm at the point now where i have to take action..

thanks for sharing sorry if that didn't help...but that helps when i'm totaly confused..because i can't remember something..and i'm on the spot.

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posted January 09, 2012 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Chironrising,

I appreciate the insight. That is very good advise.

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posted July 20, 2021 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhiteBirds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because the male signs are totally different from the female ones, and they cannot satisfy each other But within each male / female category, the opposite signs have male and female polarity within.

Male:
Aries, is the masculine polarity - Libra, the feminine

Gemini, is the feminine polarity - Sagittarius, the masculine

Leo is the feminine polarity, Aquarius the masculine

Feminine:
Taurus is the feminine polarity, Scorpio the masculine

Cancer is the feminine polarity, Capricorn the masculine

Virgo is the masculine polarity, Pisces the feminine.

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posted July 20, 2021 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Understanding the answer to this question is only possible if you first understand it was asked from a linear mentality caught in separatist duality. Astrology is not linear in nature at all. The zodiac is a cycle of energy movement alternating from positive (+) charge, Aries, to negative (-) charge, Taurus, and so on, but both are simply varying expressions of the same energy.

Linear thinking caught in duality says that points A and B are separated (by distance), therefore they cannot understand each other or be unified. Cosmic energy does not work that way. Quantum physics has shown us things seemingly separated by a great distance can resonate or be identical. Like the yin-yang symbol illustrates, the cycle of energy is singular and expresses itself as its own internal 'opposites', like waves and troughs in the ocean.

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