posted January 08, 2012 08:11 AM            

There are some very strict (medieval) rules in horary:

° housesystem is Regiomontanus (though I have seen some use Placidus as well)

° only traditional planets rule the houses, and that is one rule most horary astrologers seem to agree on, though some use the outer planets as outside influences, but never as ruler:
Scorpio is ruled by Mars, Aquarius by Saturn, Pisces by Jupiter.

° Identify the houses pertaining to the question; that is where most horaries fail, if they fail

° the Querent (you) is always 1st house, the quesited usually is 7th house.
If you are asking about another person with the focus on them, the other person is always 7th house, no matter if a lover, friend or enemy.

In other cases other houses come into play. For example If you ask:
Will my friend develop loving feelings for me? Then the friend is being found in 7th house,
but if you ask: Will my friend find her stolen purse? (then the friend is being found in 11th house and the purse in 2nd house). Tricky, right?

Then we give significators to each person. I have the most experience with relationship horaries. So I will talk from this perspective.

Significators of the querent:
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Always the ruler of the 1st house.
Also the Co-significator of the querent is the Moon, if it is not already given to the questited (if Cancer is on the DESC for example).
In relationship horaries Venus is also the significator of women.

The ruler of the 1st house would highlight the personality and mind of the person; the Moon the emotional state, and Venus the "animal magnetism".

Quesited:
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]b]ruler of 7th house[/b] (or whereever we find him in the chart)

Sun as the signifator of "animal magnetism" for men (yes, Sun, NOT Mars!).

In relationship horaries, the dignities and receptions tell us a lot about how people feel about each other, or if they are interested in each other.

The strongest dignities are
Rulership and exaltation (though exaltations is a bit of an exagerated enthusiasm, like the first throes of love).

Triplicity is the third strongest positive dignity; there is a lot of warmth, interest, affinity coming with that, but it is not as strong as rulership and exaltation. Maybe on the bridge between friendship and love.

The minor dignities are "face" and "term" - on their own not strong enough to indicate loving feelings, but there might be a weak positive interest with them, though I ahve to read up on them again.

The negative dignities are detriment and fall.
If your significators are in the detriment of the quesited significators, it is said to realte to immense dislike, loathing, etc.

Personally I have not always found that to be true. In some cases it seems to rather highlight a hesitancy of a certain attraction that still might be there. You might like the other one, but might not like that you are attracted. You know what I mean?

Thje worst sign imo is if there are no receptions at all.

Example:
Your significator is Mercury in Pisces; your quesited significator is Jupiter in Gemini.
That would be a mutual positive reception, indicating mutual love or very much sympathy.
Your Significator is in Pisces, ruled by Jupiter, which is HIM.
His significator is in Gemini, ruled by Mercury, which is YOU.

Let`s say your significator would not have been in Pisces but in Cappy, the detriment of Juptier - that would be a more challenging situation, as Jupiter is in fall in Cappy.

For a positive answer to your question you need an aspect between the significators (or an aspect of MOon to the significator).

Only Ptolemaic aspects are being considered, and ONLY applying ones.
(conjunction, sextile, trine: positive; square, opposition: often negative, but it depends a little; quinkunx is sometimes also considered, as an aspect that demands major adjustment).

Usually horary astrologers only consider IN sign aspects, but it does not always seem to be the case, but if out of sign aspects are being considered, the orb has to be REALLY tight, and it usually indicates that something has to change (the signchange that has to happen), before the matter can come to fruition.

The Moon is also indicate of the course of action, about what is going be, and her first and last aspect are especially interesting.

A void of course moon might indicate, that nothing is going to happen in that matter. If that is positive or negative, depends on the question.

If there is no aspect between the significators, nothing is going to happen, there will be no contact.

Some horary astrologers will not interprete a chart, that has the first degree rising (it`s still early, sometimes too early to say something about the question) or the last three degrees rising (it`s too late, a change is imminent, ask again later).

Others will not interprete a chart with Saturn in the 7th (or 1st house) as they think this Saturn impedes the astrologer (they would place the astrologer in 1st house I think). I haven`t found this one to be true though.

Often you will find that the significators connect to the natal charts. At least I find it most amazing that usually if I have a question about a certain someone, this guy is being signified by Jupiter (He has a BIG stellium in Sagittarius natally) and I am of course signified by MErcury (Mercury conjuncts my Sun in 1st house natally).
In the case of another guy, who`s a Capricorn, he is amazingly often signified by either Saturn or his significator in Capricorn. I just found that an amazing occurance.

There are many many more rules of course. But these are the ones that I recalled right now.

Why don´t you post your question and we try to unravel the chart together?
(just be certain what you are asking is what you REALLY want to know. Don`t laugh, it is not always that easy.
You know like a girl asking: Will X break up with his girlfriend? When what she REALLY wanted to know was: Will he start a relationship with ME?).

posted January 08, 2012 09:34 AM            

This particular question I only have 2 wks to do the horary as my son will be born by then lol

posted January 08, 2012 10:01 AM            

http://www.qhdc.org/barclay/guide1.htm http://www.qhdc.org/barclay/guide2.htm

There are some considerations as to when significators aspect or not, as in the Leeman blog:

"The next most common means of perfection is translation. In translation, a fast-moving body (generally the Moon, but occasionally Venus or Mercury) separates from one of the Significators, and applies to the other one.

There is one very rare means of translation, which is very powerful: collection. Collection occurs when the faster moving body is separating from the slower moving one, but both are applying to yet a slower body. The slowest one then “collects” the other two.

In addition to these means of achieving perfection, there are also other ways to thwart a perfection. These include:

Refranation: in this case, the two bodies are moving toward perfection, but before the aspect becomes exact, the faster moving body turns retrograde, and the aspect never happens until after that body goes direct again, if at all in the same sign. This is one of the most frustrating scenarios, because everything appears to be moving in the right direction until things suddenly veer off.

Frustration: in this case, again the Significators appear to be moving to perfection, but this time the slower moving planet achieves a partile aspect with a different body before the faster moving body catches up. Again, this scenario shows hope until the person represented by the slower moving Significator goes off in a different direction.

Prohibition: the Significators are moving to perfection, but a swifter body intervenes and completes aspects with both bodies first.

Besiegement: if a Significator is between two malefics, it is besieged. It is not at all clear how large an orb should be allowed for this. The concept for besieged is: between a rock and a hard place. A besieged planet is not free to act as it is hemmed in on all sides."
http://leephd.blogspot.com/2006/07/encyclopedia-entry-on-horary-astrology.html

And the table of dignities:
http://www.skyscript.co.uk/essential_dignities.html

HOw to read it:

Let`s say your significator is Mercury in Cancer. And the quesited significator is Jupiter in Libra.

If you want to know how you feel about the questited, you check in which sign YOUR significator falls and look for that sign in the table.

In your case that would be CANCER. Than you check for when Jupiter pops up in the dignities of Cancer. WE are looking for Jupiter, because it signifies HIM, and we want to know how you like him.

So we see that your significator is:
- the exaltation of Jupiter (you are totally smitten with him)

- and maybe in the term of Jupiter (if Mercury is in the range of 6°-13° Cancer).

If we want to know how he likes you, we are looking in which sign his significator is placed and look for that sign in the table.
So here we have to look for
Libra.

Since you are signified by Mercury, we have a look if Mercury pops up in the Libra-part of the table.

So his significator is:
- is in the triplicity of Mercury (IF, and only if, this is a night`s chart; that means if the Sun is below the horizon in the houses 1-6).

- if Jupiter is from 19-24 LIbra, it is in the term of Mercury

In these cases this would be a positive answer, yes he would like you back, even though maybe not as passionately as you would like to.

But if it was a day`s chart with Jupiter, let`s say in 2 Libra, then there would be no reception. And your feelings wouldn`t be reciprocrated.
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If in a relationship horary a significator planet is in its own sign, but with no receptions to the other significator, then it would indicate that the person is mostly into themselves, but not interested in the other much.

If this is not a relationship horary, the dignities indicate the strength of the planets.
For example: your significator Mercury is in Cancer.
It has no strong dignities there, so not necessarily strong.
If it had been in Gemini or Virgo, it would have been very strong.
Had it been in Sag or Pisces, it would be in the sign of its detriment and fall, which leaves no real strength to act.

posted January 08, 2012 10:03 AM            

I am fascinated by horary, but really have dabbled only in questions like: Does he like me, will we meet again etc.

There is so much to consider, and my Mercury is in Sag, the sign of its fall I think. So not so focused. lol

Anyway we are going to do our best to find an answer to the question about your son.

posted January 10, 2012 03:04 PM            

I am sorry to hear that, but I also must say, to me the horary chart does not look very promising. Sorry.

Sometimes fixed stars are used with horaries as well, and the ASC is on Erakis: AUTHORITY, JUDGES, CRUEL AND SEVERE TRIALS, DRAMA

And the DESC is on VIDEMIATRIX, with an orb of only 2 minutes!!!! Not degrees, minutes. OUch.

FALSITY, FOLLY, STEALING, WIDOWHOOD (separation), DEPRESSION

Ruler of 1st house is your significator:
Mars in Virgo in 6th house. Mars is peregrine there, so no special strengths here.

Ruler of 7th house, his sig, is Venus in Aquarius in his own 5th house. Venus is peregrine either, so he also has no ability to really act on his own.

Mars is in the triplicity and yet also fall of Venus. You might have very mixed feelings concerning him.

Venus has no strong dignities to your Mars. So you are probably not in the centre of his thoughts or feelings nowadays, though within very short Venus will be in Mars` term, but that is a minor reception.
It does show a certain care and like for you, but is too weak on its own.

It is possible that Moon is your co-significator and Sun his.

Moon is very strong and emotional in Cancer.
but it has no reception with Venus, and no with Sun. Though before long Moon will change into Leo, being ruled by Sun.

Sun is in Capricorn, in the exaltation, term and face of Mars, so he probably has strong sexual feelings for you (which makes sense, given that you will be parents).
WOW, what a triple reception. lol

But Sun is also in the detriment of MOon, there will be feelings of aloneness and hurt I guess.
Though MNoon ALSO and foremost indicates the course of event.
So it could mean that he REALLY dislikes how events are going.

your main sigs are not having an applying aspect - so no contact (a testimonial for a NO).

IF he is the Sun, too, it will make a trine with your sig Mars. Though since Sun rules the 5th house, it could also be a strong indicator of Sun not being HIS sig, but your son`s. The son that will come to you (Mars). (in 2 weeks).

So far this does not look so convincingly positive, unless Sun is his significator.

But what is so obvious, is that both of you are in VERY strong dignities of Saturn, more than of each other.

Mars is in the term of Saturn; Moon is in the term and detriment of Saturn.

In his case this is getting ridiculously strong actually.

Venus is RULED by Saturn and in the triplicity of Saturn.
Saturn is RULED by Venus and in the triplicity of Venus.
This is such a strong equal mutual reception. It looks like he is locked in a tight embrace with Saturn. Saturn is even in his house, he is sharing the space with Saturn.

If he is also signified by Sun, then he is ruled by Saturn again.

posted January 10, 2012 03:14 PM            

So who or what is SAturn?

On the one hand as ruler of 4th and 5th house it could relate to his family and his son.
BUT SAturn is also the natural ruler of the practical law, locked places, rigid structures. Saturn is anything that has to do with structuring.