posted January 12, 2012 03:09 PM            

In May,2011 there was a festival in my friend's University. At this time there was Mercury,Venus and Jupiter conjunction which was squaring my sun/moon midpoint(which means important encounters). Anyway, at festival after we have seen each other, we started kissing in 30 seconds. It was "kiss at first sight" which is more rare than "love at first sight". Kissing was mixture of lust and chemisty so not only psychical as i remember. We just kissed 3 hours without stopping. We made some public nuisance with our extreme intimacy even we dont know ourselves. And do you know what was the first thing she asked to me? She asked same question at the same time asi was thinking the same question in my head .."What is your sign?" Do you know how it is rare to be happened what i told you so far? It was like perfection. That three hours i could not seperate my arm from her body!!!.(Time didnt stop though at first ).Anyway here is the synastry in many ways;

Her Sun/Mars/Mercury/PLuto in my 8th
Her venus/jupiter in my 7th
Her moon in my 5th.

Her Venus conjuncts my Vertex and Eros(this one wide a little)

Our synastry and dual cosmodyne point was around 146.. 30+ is enough for marriage

Black is me, red is her

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Me aspecting Her
Sun Quincunx Moon 6.75
Sun Square Jupiter 4.97
Sun Sextile Saturn 3.27
Sun Trine Chiron 5.18
Sun Sextile Ascendant 7.00
Sun Conjunction Midheaven 2.51

Moon Trine Moon 4.04
Moon Trine Mercury 5.21
Moon Opposition Venus 3.40
Moon Trine Mars 6.76
Moon Opposition Jupiter 5.82
Moon Sextile Uranus 4.24
Moon Sextile Neptune 0.44
Moon Trine Pluto 4.95
Moon Quincunx Chiron 5.62
Moon Sextile Node 2.48

Mercury Square Venus 4.53

Venus Quincunx Moon 0.58
Venus Square Jupiter 1.20
Venus Trine Chiron 1.00
Venus Square Vertex 2.38
Venus Sextile Ascendant 0.83

Mars Quincunx Sun 1.32
Mars Quincunx Mars 2.08
Mars Square Jupiter 3.02
Mars Trine Saturn 5.22
Mars Quincunx Uranus 4.61
Mars Sextile Chiron 3.22
Mars Square Vertex 1.84
Mars Trine Ascendant 5.05
Mars Opposition Midheaven 4.46

Jupiter Square Mars 5.62
Jupiter Quincunx Uranus 3.10
Jupiter Quincunx Neptune 0.70
Jupiter Conjunction Chiron 4.48
Jupiter Quincunx Node 1.33
Jupiter Opposition Ascendant 2.65

Saturn Sextile Mercury 1.97
Saturn Trine Venus 3.78
Saturn Sextile Pluto 2.23
Saturn Conjunction Lilith 1.33

Uranus Sextile Sun 3.14
Uranus Opposition Moon 2.98
Uranus Sextile Mars 0.26
Uranus Trine Jupiter 1.20
Uranus Conjunction Uranus 2.79
Uranus Quincunx Chiron 1.41
Uranus Trine Vertex 0.02

Neptune Opposition Moon 2.19
Neptune Trine Venus 5.26
Neptune Sextile Mars 4.91
Neptune Trine Jupiter 3.97
Neptune Conjunction Uranus 2.38
Neptune Conjunction Neptune 1.41
Neptune Quincunx Chiron 3.76
Neptune Conjunction Node 0.62

Pluto Trine Moon 7.68
Pluto Conjunction Mercury 1.57
Pluto Sextile Venus 0.23
Pluto Sextile Neptune 4.08
Pluto Conjunction Pluto 1.31
Pluto Sextile Lilith 2.21

Chiron Square Sun 7.48
Chiron Opposition Saturn 3.58
Chiron Trine Midheaven 4.34

Lilith Quincunx Moon 2.60
Lilith Sextile Ascendant 2.35

Node Conjunction Saturn 0.94
Node Sextile Midheaven 1.70

P. of Fortune Square Venus 0.34
P. of Fortune Quincunx Pluto 1.89
P. of Fortune Trine P. of Fortune 0.73

Vertex Sextile Mercury 0.32
Vertex Conjunction Venus 2.12
Vertex Sextile Pluto 0.58
Vertex Trine Lilith 0.32

Ascendant Trine Sun 2.43
Ascendant Trine Moon 3.69
Ascendant Trine Mars 0.97
Ascendant Opposition Jupiter 1.91
Ascendant Sextile Uranus 3.50
Ascendant Quincunx Chiron 2.12
Ascendant Opposition Vertex 0.73
Ascendant Square Midheaven 5.57

Midheaven Quincunx Moon 6.97
Midheaven Square Venus 0.47
Midheaven Sextile P. of Fortune 0.60

COMPOSITE

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We have also "HIS PSYCHE GEMINI/HER EROS GEMINI: IMMORTAL LOVERS" which conjuncts widely
A single mad moment often defines this love affair, probably the one with the highest soulmating potential of all! The second these two encounter each other, there is no room for anyone else. Memories of past lovers flee from their suddenly addled minds. They realize immediately that nothing, no matter what the complications, is going to stand between them and their goal to fulfill this liaison. One of the most surreal aspects of this relationship is that one or both of the ‘adorees’ will have dreamt of it beforehand, perhaps even repeatedly. So it feels like it is the most déjà vu thing ever. There is often some sort of sign or significant something worn or uttered in the initial meeting and neither will ever forget this conversation. Ready or not, they meet and realize that this is likely to be one of the most significant romances of their lifetime! Another cosmic clue: they are destined to deeply inspire one another creatively.

We have also 5 mutual receptions in addition Jupiter opposite ascendant double whammies which smally increases effect as well.

Also for asteroids, Her amor conjuncts my ascendant, Her valentine conjuncts my north node.

posted January 13, 2012 11:14 AM            

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Originally posted by amurr:
So I take from this that attraction isn't everything? LOL. I would love to see this had lasted a lifetime.

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posted January 13, 2012 12:24 PM            

For compelling synastry you need some important aspects between personal planets and to the rulers of 5th, 7th and 8th house under 3 degrees (I know people will disagree, but I can only talk from my experience and analyzing a lot of charts, and this is what I`ve found) PLUS strong progressed synastry (which seems to be at least equally important maybe even more than natal synastry).

But even if all that "fits", synastry just shows the effect you have on each other, and how the personal energies mesh.
It does not really say what you are going to do with it.
The choice about this seems to diminish with focal aspects though (exact orbs, including core objects / points in both charts, being triggered by transits simultaneously).

The wider orbed aspects will be somewhat felt as well, but usually are not strong enough to make people want to get or stay in a relationship, and other influences might lead them astray.

The Vertex connections are very compelling here. And those sometimes relate to WHAM-encounters, that really make you turn your head and feel, well, compelling.
But it is just about the encounter, the turning point character. They do not promise any longevity on themselves. But a lot of attraction.

Having said that the synastry is strong enough. You probably could have made it work, if you had wanted to.
But as you say, attraction is not enough.

posted January 13, 2012 06:50 PM            

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Originally posted by amowls**:
ASC opposite Vertex, man. It'll do it. It won't guarantee longevity though lol.

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I have that natally lol

posted January 14, 2012 12:43 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Hmm..can I ask why it didnt last?

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posted January 14, 2012 12:56 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
I haven`t found cosmodynes to be working reliably.
And personally I find this synastry nice but not compelling enough.

For compelling synastry you need some important aspects between personal planets and to the rulers of 5th, 7th and 8th house under 3 degrees (I know people will disagree, but I can only talk from my experience and analyzing a lot of charts, and this is what I`ve found) PLUS strong progressed synastry (which seems to be at least equally important maybe even more than natal synastry).

But even if all that "fits", synastry just shows the effect you have on each other, and how the personal energies mesh.
It does not really say what you are going to do with it.
The choice about this seems to diminish with focal aspects though (exact orbs, including core objects / points in both charts, being triggered by transits simultaneously).

The wider orbed aspects will be somewhat felt as well, but usually are not strong enough to make people want to get or stay in a relationship, and other influences might lead them astray.

The Vertex connections are very compelling here. And those sometimes relate to WHAM-encounters, that really make you turn your head and feel, well, compelling.
But it is just about the encounter, the turning point character. They do not promise any longevity on themselves. But a lot of attraction.

Having said that the synastry is strong enough. You probably could have made it work, if you had wanted to.
But as you say, attraction is not enough.

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posted January 14, 2012 01:25 PM            

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posted January 14, 2012 01:31 PM            

"from the synastric perspective, tighter orbs in the individual natal chart are "stronger" because, given a 'tight link', it is less likely that one's social network will include someone whose chart forms an even tighter link, and thus 'interferes with' or modifies the behaviours (actions, thoughts, feelings) otherwise shown by that natal aspect. "
http://www.aplaceinspace.net/Pages/AndreSocialAstrology.html

Even though this is referring to natal aspects, the same is true for synastry. The wider the orb is the more likely it is other people (and their planets) will or could "interfere" and sometimes distract you to the point that you lose focus and contact with the other person.

I think it might be similiar as it is with horaries.

Orbs are not that important in them, it is just important that an aspect perfects within a sign sometime, BUT the greater the ob is, the more likely it is that another planet aspects one or both of the two planets before they can perfect an aspect, and thus the potential aspect is prohibited.

Since I feel it is similiar with synastry charts (wider orbs may have too many diverting influences of other planets), I stress the importance of really tight aspects.

Another reason is that only the tight orbed ones will be simulutaneiously react to transits.

Why is that important?
Well, our natal chart and synastry has potentially dozens of aspects, but not all of them will be equally strong at all times or perceived as such.

If a transit aspects two planets in two charfts which are in synastric aspect, it clearly "awakes" that aspect and it is being brought to the foreground.
Slower transits seem to be more important in this due to their slow motion - they just influence the aspect longer.

So, just think of this example:
Two different synastry charts may have the same set of aspects; both have a Sun-Venus-conjunction and a Moon-Saturn conjunction.

Now in the case of the first synastry the Sun-Venus conjunction falls onto 3 Cancer, while their MOon-Saturn-conjunction fall onto 18 LIbra.

Now in the second case their Sun-Venus conjunction falls onto 18 Libra and their Moon-Saturn-conjunction onto 3 Cancer.

If you check the ephemeris for the current time frame you will see a lot of planets in the beginning of the signs.

Jupiter: 00 Taurus
Saturn: 00 Scorpio (almost)
Uranus: 01 Aries
Neptune: 00 Pisces (almost)
Pluto: 07 Capricorn

As you can see whatever synastric conjunction is on 18 Libra is NOT being triggered by transits.

The conjunctions on 3 Cancer definitely will be or have been triggered.

For the first couple their Sun-Venus-conjunction would have been illumintated, brought to light; whle for the second couple it would have been their Moon-Saturn-conjunction.

I bet their actual experiences in the relationship would be very different, even though they have potentially the same two synastric aspects in their charts.

posted January 14, 2012 02:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
This is an article on orbs, and I find it intriguing.

"from the synastric perspective, tighter orbs in the individual natal chart are "stronger" because, given a 'tight link', it is less likely that one's social network will include someone whose chart forms an even tighter link, and thus 'interferes with' or modifies the behaviours (actions, thoughts, feelings) otherwise shown by that natal aspect. "
http://www.aplaceinspace.net/Pages/AndreSocialAstrology.html

Even though this is referring to natal aspects, the same is true for synastry. The wider the orb is the more likely it is other people (and their planets) will or could "interfere" and sometimes distract you to the point that you lose focus and contact with the other person.

I think it might be similiar as it is with horaries.

Orbs are not that important in them, it is just important that an aspect perfects within a sign sometime, BUT the greater the ob is, the more likely it is that another planet aspects one or both of the two planets before they can perfect an aspect, and thus the potential aspect is prohibited.

Since I feel it is similiar with synastry charts (wider orbs may have too many diverting influences of other planets), I stress the importance of really tight aspects.

Another reason is that only the tight orbed ones will be simulutaneiously react to transits.

Why is that important?
Well, our natal chart and synastry has potentially dozens of aspects, but not all of them will be equally strong at all times or perceived as such.

If a transit aspects two planets in two charfts which are in synastric aspect, it clearly "awakes" that aspect and it is being brought to the foreground.
Slower transits seem to be more important in this due to their slow motion - they just influence the aspect longer.

So, just think of this example:
Two different synastry charts may have the same set of aspects; both have a Sun-Venus-conjunction and a Moon-Saturn conjunction.

Now in the case of the first synastry the Sun-Venus conjunction falls onto 3 Cancer, while their MOon-Saturn-conjunction fall onto 18 LIbra.

Now in the second case their Sun-Venus conjunction falls onto 18 Libra and their Moon-Saturn-conjunction onto 3 Cancer.

If you check the ephemeris for the current time frame you will see a lot of planets in the beginning of the signs.

Jupiter: 00 Taurus
Saturn: 00 Scorpio (almost)
Uranus: 01 Aries
Neptune: 00 Pisces (almost)
Pluto: 07 Capricorn

As you can see whatever synastric conjunction is on 18 Libra is NOT being triggered by transits.

The conjunctions on 3 Cancer definitely will be or have been triggered.

For the first couple their Sun-Venus-conjunction would have been illumintated, brought to light; whle for the second couple it would have been their Moon-Saturn-conjunction.

I bet their actual experiences in the relationship would be very different, even though they have potentially the same two synastric aspects in their charts.

And that is really why I can be so narrow-minded when it comes to orbs.

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posted January 14, 2012 02:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Mert
Can you get it back?

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posted January 14, 2012 03:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Mert,

that is so sad.

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posted January 14, 2012 04:59 PM            

You said you ignored your instincts, so it's not that the choice was totally yours when u deleted..

posted January 14, 2012 09:12 PM            

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posted January 14, 2012 10:37 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
Oh,you two wild,compositing kids

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