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Betty Boop
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posted January 15, 2012 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are some indications in synastry and composite charts - for the following...

1. That two people would be likely to have a child together (I know that we all have free will... but there might still be some indications)

2. That conceiving will be very easy and non-problematic for them?

3. That two people will make great parents?

Also... I'm curious about the opposite - What would prevent pregnancy or cause difficulties - and what would show that two people can't work well as a unit and raise a family?

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appleberry
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posted January 16, 2012 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know that 5th house regards children, Ceres regards nurturing (parenting?) and you also want to look at things like moon/Cancer, and possibly look at asteroids DNA, Karma, and Child.

I'm sure there is more, but that's a start...

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appleberry
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posted January 16, 2012 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And of course mind Saturn for restriction (difficulty?), and Jupiter for expansion (luck?)...

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SaggiMC
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posted January 16, 2012 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Betty Boop:
What are some indications in synastry and composite charts - for the following...

1. That two people would be likely to have a child together (I know that we all have free will... but there might still be some indications)

2. That conceiving will be very easy and non-problematic for them?

3. That two people will make great parents?

Also... I'm curious about the opposite - What would prevent pregnancy or cause difficulties - and what would show that two people can't work well as a unit and raise a family?



If this is about a particular chart, please post it?? with prog and transits.

8th house is conception, and 5th describes children. Having a malific like an outer in 5th may be problematic. Saturn could be lonng time in labour, uranus unsual kids or freaky births (twins for example) Neptune could be miscarriage/sacrifices...

The Eighth House - conception
“The eighth house covers sex, death, and other people's resources. Most beginning astrologers question how these areas of life are related, and the explanation offers insight into some of life's most intriguing activities. The lives of others impact our lives on a moment-to-moment basis. Every human interaction engages the mental, emotional, material or spiritual resources of at least one other person. Sexual response and sexual expression form a fundamental area for us to cultivate the spiritual connection with others through the physical connection.” http://www.llewellyn.com/encyclopedia/article/130

“deepest fears, obsessions, denied dreams, ability to love and care for children, sexual hang ups, obsession/relationship with money, need to exploit others, length and breadth of vanity, secret desire to rule the world, {Or at least, your world and everyone in it} and every religious neurotic tendency you could ever invent, relate to, dispose or crave. According to traditional astrology the 8th house is the precarious domain of sex, death and money. But, it has been my experience that the 8th house goes much deeper than these obvious realities” http://www.articlesbase.com/astrol ogy-articles/face-the-boogey-man-your-incessant-spectator-mind-and-how-it-works-8th-house-deal-949018.html

“One way to read a birth chart is to start with the Eighth House, where conception begins. During the nine months of pregnancy, the cycle travels from the beginning of the Eighth House to the ascendant, which represents the moment of birth, the baby's first breath” http://www2.canada.com/topics/lifestyle/astrology/health/pregnancy/index.html

Pluto in 5th House - succeedent
Plutonic childhood. At least one of your children will be Scorpionic in nature. Want control over love affairs and children. Should produce talented children. You tend to be dominated by romantic partner or children.Another common feature is creative work actors, painters, musicians. Or just enjoying hobbies

Saturn in the 5th house
Here the self expression and creative ability are apt to be inhibited. Lessons to learn where lovingness is concerned for individual is apt to be cool and inhibited. Difficulties with children due to lack of understanding where their needs are concerned. Teaching or working with young people would be a constructive use of a 5th house Saturn. Learn to forget the self and care about others. These people lack confidence in their creative abilities and social skills. Artistic potential will only be developed if practical skills are acquired. There is a formality in social relationships and in dealings with children. May delay you wanting any children of your own, but when they do arrive, feel very responsible for them, their friends and their grandchildren even.Could feel heavy responsibilities regarding children or may not even want children. People with this position are well suited to stock market speculation, may become romantically involved with an older person. Reserved in their attitudes towards Art, Theatre, ¬Pleasure.Women – could be long time in labour

Uranus in 5th House - succeedent house
You could have sudden (stop/go) and unusual romantic ¬involvements. You will seek pleasurable and exciting pursuits, whether artistic, musically or creativity. Could have gifted or unusual children. You will give them a lot of freedom and encourage them to be inventive. Children are original, independent and unusual. Self restraint and self-knowledge are needed as this person can be reckless and foolhardy. Unconventional where love affairs are concerned. Wants to feel free no matter what the cost – as in no strings. Wants to work for himself rather than for others. (house of self employment)

Neptune in 5th House – succeedent house
Unconscious desire for love and appreciation through romance and creative expression. May have artistic talents. Especially to do with music, children, or the stock markets. Ability to play a role. Love of theatre. Very sympathetic. ¬intuition strong here. This house describes love affairs and children. Romance over idealise. love at first sight. Romance seen through ¬rose tinted glasses! Did you have gas and air or ¬anesthetic during childbirth?
Artistic/creative children, secretive children, depending on aspects. Private enterprise beware the dangling carrot, be very wary of.


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SaggiMC
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posted January 16, 2012 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Predicting marriage and/or having children can sometimes be done, in general terms but it is not easy, time consuming and intricate. There are lots of things to take into consideration like, secondary progressions, what inter-aspects one chart makes to another, Solar arcs, Solar returns, Transits etc http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3192 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3179 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14255

Symbolic Directions in Modern Astrology – book by
By Charles E. Carter http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uDv0Xj9YjngC&printsec=frontcover&dq=astrology+Charles+Carter&hl=en&ei=w5HeS7G6DYb2-Aa71Oj_Bg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CD8Q6AEw AA#v=onepage&q&f=false


Go to Astro.com, Astro.com, Extended Chart Selection, Special Charts, Lunar Phases Fertility Calendar. Fertile days will be marked in red. I hope this helps.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15096 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=205947&postcount=2

Part of marriage women (1) Asc + Saturn - venus
Part of marriage women (2) Asc + mars – moon
Part of marriage man (1) Asc + venus – Saturn
Part of marriage man (2) Asc + venus – sun
Lot of Children
Day Lot = Asc. + Sa - Ju
Night Lot = Asc. + Ju - Sa http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php
the above link will calculate for you http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_fortune_e.htm
The point being is to see if any natal planets is in same degree ie: 3'5" taurus would be same as 3'5" in ANY fixed sign and is considered conjunct. Then a passing transit, progressions or even solar arc could activate this midpoint. All depends if it's the benefic Jupiter, venus etc or malifics saturn, uranus, neptune, pluto

indicators of pregnancy http://www.skyscript.co.uk/pregnancy.html
This website list suggests: EROS: [full no. 57] eroticism; reproductive organs; sexuality; the heart & cardiac system; the history, the Will to Live; what “turns you on;” Number on astro =433
http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/rosemurray/WhenMarry.html http://starrynightastrology.com/2009/08/02/relationship-astrology-making-love-last-part-1-your-relationship-style/ http://www.astrologyfertility.com/CosmicBabies4.htm

member called Miss Saturn (which is now member ‘Shining Ray’) has a book/theory on how many marriages and children you might have on this thread… http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2013 http://books.google.com/books?id=0OJgX88KKMsC&pg=PA29&dq=carol+predictive+astrology+natal+marriage&ei=cgY9StL4L4XuzASuzMC6BQ
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Delilah
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posted January 16, 2012 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon-Venus: they may want to have a family together.

Moon-Uranus: better be careful with condoms and birth control. Unexpected pregnancy can be a blessing/new adventure or curse/limitation.

Moon-Saturn: you'll think about it, plan to, or decide not to.

Moon-Mars: I think is the same as the Moon-Uranus, except if you're not already taking birth control you both may forget to use protection or it may not work. Excuse me for saying this, but this is a "getting busy" aspect.

4H Moon: you feel at home with each other and the Moon in its natural house can't go wrong here. You'll also want to start a family together and make a nice comfy home with each other.

Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto in the 5H spells babies to me.

As for great parents, look at the aspects between the benefics.

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appleberry
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posted January 16, 2012 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Delilah...
For composites?

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Delilah
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posted January 16, 2012 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't advanced to composites yet, but think what I listed holds weight for both charts.

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