posted January 19, 2012 04:54 PM            

I have read all the doom and gloom on Sun square Saturn in a Composite, and now I'm looking for some hope.

Has anyone positive experiences with that square or if it has been a struggle, was it worth it in the end?

I don't mind a bit of a struggle, on the contrary, I get a bit suspicious when things go to smoothly, but then, I'm Scorpio, Capricorn rising, so what do you expect ... ?

Some additional info: The square to the Sun is the only major aspect for Saturn.
The Sun receives a trine from the Moon and from Pluto (a grand trine actually) and a sextile from Neptune.

posted January 20, 2012 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by birdy:
Of course there is. Look at your natals though.
Is there a Saturnian theme? Cap DC? DC conj Saturn, Any planets esp VENUS aspecting saturn? And best of all, any capricorn planets?
Because that ultimately tell you if there is hope in making it works. What works for one person doesnt work for another.

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Thank you birdy for answering. There IS a Saturnian theme in the natals, especially in mine. I have Capricorn rising, Saturn is the first (Acquarius), and it's trining my Sun and Mercury, opposing my Mars and squaring my Moon/Jupiter conjuction. Nice, isn't it ? So I'm very familiar with Saturn.

I'm more concerned about him, because at the first look his chart is very fiery and airy so maybe he won't bother to fight for very long (we have some odds against us). But the more I think about it - he has Saturn conjunct MC in his natural 10th house, aspecting every personal planet, mostly easy aspects, but opposing the ruler of his 7th house.

Well, time will tell, but thank you for your valuable input!

posted January 25, 2012 01:15 PM            

We had Uranus "issues" though.

posted January 26, 2012 12:15 PM              

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html

posted January 27, 2012 03:00 PM            

Btw, we have Uranus "issues" too...

Best of luck to you too!

@ SaggiMC
Thank you for replying. Yes, I've read on astro free composite charts what it means. I've googled about every available meaning on the internet. That's why I wrote "I've read all the doom and gloom" ...

After all that theory, I would like to hear some real life experiences. I'm well aware that there are a lot of other influences in a Composite, and that one aspect shouldn't be singled out. But especially that aspect has got such a bad rep! As the Sun is always described as the heart of the relationship, that aspect would be notably felt.

posted January 27, 2012 04:27 PM            

But i can tell you my experiences with Sun square Saturn.

I have this with a platonic friend, whome i had very strong feelings for. For two years we were very close to each other,i would even say too close, especially as we've been just friends. We helped each other through a lot. And i honestly believed from the moment we first locked eyes that we would end up being together. But it did not happen, and our "break up" was very painful and saturnian, because he hurted me a lot. He was kinda cruel. I still miss him though quite much, and i think he misses me too. Im not sure whats in the store for us in the future, although i hope that with time we could become friends again.

So all in all, it was my most significant relationshio so far, even if it was only platonic.

I hope it will be happier for you though

posted January 27, 2012 05:07 PM            

that has been my experience again and again.

Not just with me, but with my friends and their friendships/relationships, too

posted January 31, 2012 01:13 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreamy_AriesGirl:
Well, as its the case with every aspect, many things depends on the rest of the composite and the synastry.

But i can tell you my experiences with Sun square Saturn.

I have this with a platonic friend, whome i had very strong feelings for. For two years we were very close to each other,i would even say too close, especially as we've been just friends. We helped each other through a lot. And i honestly believed from the moment we first locked eyes that we would end up being together. But it did not happen, and our "break up" was very painful and saturnian, because he hurted me a lot. He was kinda cruel. I still miss him though quite much, and i think he misses me too. Im not sure whats in the store for us in the future, although i hope that with time we could become friends again.

So all in all, it was my most significant relationshio so far, even if it was only platonic.

I hope it will be happier for you though

ps. another thing. Although we had a lot of fun together during the good times, it was never an easy relationship and i did more for him and for the relationship then It would have been healthy. I was super-attached to him. (Saturn even conjunct our composite AC, so it's not easy)

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Dreamy_Aries Girl, thank you for sharing! We have so many similarities here. I could almost go as far as "Your story is my story" with the exception that we are still on great terms. But that might change in the future, as our story is not an easy one. The whole "thing" just feels so fated. Fate and Karma are not expressions I use lightly and often, not at all, but in our case, ... we will see.

I'm sorry to hear he has hurt you, Saturn can be so harsh! Saturn on the Ascendant is also a biggie. I hope things work out for the best for you.

Btw, sorry for my ankward language, I'm sure you have noticed that I'm not a native English speaker.

posted January 31, 2012 01:20 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
composite sun negative aspect to saturn = unrequited love

that has been my experience again and again.

Not just with me, but with my friends and their friendships/relationships, too

one person feels more than the other. I always say it in my relationship posts

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RAS, thank you for answering!

Gulp, that is not very promising. But I've called for the truth

Well, unrequited love, not really, or at least not totally. But it might very well be that I'm much more in love than he is. Time will tell. For the moment it looks promising, but Saturn takes his time to test...

posted January 31, 2012 02:32 PM            

Composite moon square saturn is probably worse than composite sun square saturn. It takes a long time to pop its head out, first of all, while u can usually notice sun square saturn right away, and it makes people completely abandon each other when they need each other the most because of an inability to understand that person's vulnerabilities. Are you sensitive about something and need advice or comforting about it? Or someone to talk to about it? Dont go to a friend you have composite moon square saturn with, they will probably think your fears are silly as heck. Also, you trigger in each other your worst insecurities, constantly hurting each other. There is just a serious lack of understanding of each other's internal world and your basic security needs. It's easy to feel lonely and hurt a lot together.

posted February 02, 2012 03:01 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
composite Venus square saturn just means that if you want a loving, cozy relationship with that person it probably wont be like you imagined, and you won't ever be able to get really all that close...like there's a wall there you cant seem to cross. It works well in the charts of friends though, from my experience at least. In my friendships, it has prevented my certain ones from having that suffocating jealous possessive feeling that i always have in friendships and relationships in general thanks to my natal venus square pluto. It was very liberating in that i knew we'd never get too close or "mushy" as i do with my other friends. It was also very easy to maintain a rational perspective about each other.

Composite moon square saturn is probably worse than composite sun square saturn. It takes a long time to pop its head out, first of all, while u can usually notice sun square saturn right away, and it makes people completely abandon each other when they need each other the most because of an inability to understand that person's vulnerabilities. Are you sensitive about something and need advice or comforting about it? Or someone to talk to about it? Dont go to a friend you have composite moon square saturn with, they will probably think your fears are silly as heck. Also, you trigger in each other your worst insecurities, constantly hurting each other. There is just a serious lack of understanding of each other's internal world and your basic security needs. It's easy to feel lonely and hurt a lot together.

Sun square saturn means you both are critical about each other, but usually one person is much less critical than the other, and loves a lot more than the other does. Usually sun square or opposite saturn is coupled in the composite with the love stellium--sun-mercury-venus in a conjunction, because the love stellium is so strong it brings people together despite the difficulties of sun square saturn. Almost always, the person who loves less decides to stay because the relationship provides a strong sense of stability and security, as all saturn relationships do. Then, eventually, they cant take the serious and depressed tone between you and the constant tendency to take life too seriously and they feel oppressed and leave. It usually lasts for a while, though, bc saturnian security is very comforting when u know that person is always going to be there for you.

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RAS, that was very enlightening, thank you! You explained it perfectly and as I'm just a beginner in Astrology, it is very useful for me.

This is offtopic, but I find it annoying that very often easy aspects in synastry (in this case my Sun trines his Saturn and his Sun sextiles my Saturn) result in a Composite Sun square Saturn. I haven't found out yet whether that is just a coincidence or a logical/mathematical result?

posted January 16, 2013 05:18 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
composite sun negative aspect to saturn = unrequited love

that has been my experience again and again.

Not just with me, but with my friends and their friendships/relationships, too

one person feels more than the other. I always say it in my relationship posts

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Yup. My worst heartbreak ever.

I fought and fought for this love to work but he turned on me and said the most horrible things to me... and I never expected it or saw it coming. I truly loved him & I still love him as a human being (love doesn't just disappear when the relationship ends).

When I think of him, I am only reminded of pain and loss. What we had was short lived but for me, it was purely magical... heaven on earth. Obviously not for him.

posted January 17, 2013 01:48 PM            

I will say that perhaps this aspect between you two is great.

For the Aqua and I we also have the Sun Square Saturn in Synastry (I'm Saturn in Scorp). And in the Composite there is a square from Uranus to Venus...without that Saturn to ground things we probably wouldn't still deal with each other. He is a typical Aquarius though...he wishes his best friend (a lesbian was straight lol)...and I'm a tried and true Venus in 11th house person who tells my Cap Sun/Virgo Moon best friend I wish she was a guy cause she's so awesome...(she's a Aqua Venus/Mer so she thought that was funny lol)...but at the end of the day we both tell each other we are just friends. It's easier to deal with.

posted January 17, 2013 01:55 PM            

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