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Topic: Any placements in a chart that could indicate stalking or similar behaviors?
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Anjellyfish
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From: AR, United States
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posted January 20, 2012 04:04 AM
  
Am curious. I have a "stalker"...well, it's the mutual friend of a friend of mine, who is female (I always suspected she was bisexual) and at college last year....she followed me around everywhere and would break her neck looking at me. She also hit on me on facebook. It developed into stalking...or a secret admirer.
I have her chart...not the time of birth, so only half of the placements. So, I don't know if it's still possible to do synastry (I don't know if that would tell anything) although I might be able to figure out her birth time.I've heard people say it can be Leo or Scorpio moons? She is a Capricorn with a Cancer moon. I wonder if anyone else knows anything about anything suggesting stalking or the tendency to stalk in astrology. I never really see it brought up much.
I'm sure it's crossed someone's mind. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted January 20, 2012 05:15 AM
what is pluto doing in her chart? pluto has to do with obsessionIP: Logged |
LoVeLy
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posted January 20, 2012 08:30 AM
Almost all the guys I know who seemed normal at first turned into stalkers and a few became dangerous (threats, Following me around, Making up stories about me and CRAZY things like that one started taking drugs and told his parents that he did it because I rejected him LOL I didn't even know him that well and he is distantly related to me) They were all different Sun signs so maybe it's something in your chart that attracts stalkers ? IP: Logged |
cappy1277
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posted January 20, 2012 08:43 AM
sometimes if you have pluto in the 7th house or pluto descendant, you will have a tendency to attract those kind of people. Or she may have inner planets in her eighth house that make her obsessive. those are some of the scenarios...IP: Logged |
Anjellyfish
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posted January 20, 2012 01:45 PM
I know her pluto is in scorpio. Guess I could check that outIP: Logged |
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posted January 21, 2012 01:11 PM
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NickiG
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posted January 21, 2012 01:13 PM
when i think of stalking, i think of obsession, and scorpio, pluto and 8th house rules obsession...so look at those------------------
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Malena
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posted January 21, 2012 02:41 PM
Anecdata, but I had a stalking experience with a Cancer guy. Cancer devotion and idealism can be an absolutely beautiful thing, but sometimes it has a dark side (devotion --> unable to let go, idealism ---> delusions).
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Anjellyfish
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posted January 21, 2012 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Malena:
Anecdata, but I had a stalking experience with a Cancer guy. Cancer devotion and idealism can be an absolutely beautiful thing, but sometimes it has a dark side (devotion --> unable to let go, idealism ---> delusions).
Yeah, the cancer women or cancer influenced women I know are really devoted...like if they really love a boyfriend, they won't leave the boyfriend or separate themselves even when the guy gives them black eyes, and only tries to look at the best...or if they have a friend who is toxic and a bad influence or not an ideal friend they will continue to put themselves around the friend because they love the friend. I could see delusions and idealism being a cancer thing...
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Betty Boop
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posted January 21, 2012 08:42 PM
This IS strange... I never really thought about it before but the one guy who did stalk me - actually has a Cancer Moon (Leo Sun). And there was a girl who would not take "No" for an answer either... Although she didn't stalk me as such - but every time I bumped into her she kept insisting that I have a lesbian experience with *her*. She was Cap/Cancer Moon and Aries Mars. I don't know their times of birth.
The only thing they seem to have in common is the Cancer Moon. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted January 21, 2012 08:44 PM
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if they really love a boyfriend, they won't leave the boyfriend or separate themselves even when the guy gives them black eyes
Actually, this Capricorn girl with Cancer Moon - had a boyfriend.. and she wanted to sleep with me behind his back. She didn't want him to ever find out. I got the feeling the thought of this was a kink for her. IP: Logged |
missange
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posted January 22, 2012 12:27 AM
I have a fair bit of Cancer influencing my chart (I'm a woman) and while I have never stalked - nor would consider it - I can get very obsessive about things. I overthink and overanalyze to death. I don't know any Cancer men so I can't comment.BUT - I have had a male become obsessed with me and he had Mars in Scorpio. I consider stalking and attachment to be more of a Pluto/Scorpio/8th sort of thing. Worrying tendencies come out with Cancer. IP: Logged |
Neptune'sDaughter
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posted January 22, 2012 12:53 AM
I've been stalked by females too alot with crushes on me even though they had boyfriends. Funny, Sand just posted a Vicki, Crisitins, Barcelona clip on the 'Upsetting Mars' link and the way Penelope Cruz is to Scarlett Johansson from wanting to hurt her and keep her from her man to then wanting to be sexual with her is something that women have often expressed towards me. Even the way that when Scarlett leaves the equation something is 'missing' to the other's toxic relationship, like they need an outside person to deflect energy to.I have 7th H pluto in Scorpio conj Moon in Scorp opp mars in Taurus. My 8th H is Scorpio and I have cancer on the 5th. I also have 4th H cancer with BML in cancer there -the worst ones occured when I was in the dorms. The worst was Leo, then Virgo, Scorpio, and Libra. I have no clue of the others I just stayed away! The guys most obsessive I believe were Cancer and a VERY plutonic virgo (I'd guess scorpmoon WITHOUT A DOUBT) actually he took on my Scorpmoon ex, so yeah. EDIT: I think that last guy was Virgo/Leo cusp ------------------
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Anjellyfish
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posted January 22, 2012 04:32 AM
Yeah...the chick stalking me is a cancer moon, she also has a boyfriend, although the boyfriend is recent...I seriously think she is either a libra, or cancer/scorpo rising because she has the libra dimples and some libra rising features, but yet her vibe...and her eyes, are very "water sign" but her eyes are so intense it can't just be her cancer moon.
I knew a female Scorpio with Scorpio mars and she is very obsessive about her ex boyfriend, sorta stalks him and has not let him ago even though it's been about 2 years since they broke up. Though my stalker has a Capricorn Mars, I believe. As far as me...no cancer in my natal chart really, only Scorpio/plutonic influence is my midheaven...do have a **** ton of Aquarius and Pisces influence...I wonder if having a lot of neptunian influence could have anything to do with accumulating stalkers?IP: Logged |
tautomer4314
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posted January 22, 2012 04:37 AM
It's a good thing I have self control because I do have it in me to stalk someone should I want to. Instead it manifests in another way; I am EXTREMELY nosy. I must know anything and everything about a person as possible (in particular if I like them a lot), and I will go pretty far out of my way to find it out. Of course, I do not want to be detected with this, and I don't get detected 99% of the time. I am really really nosy, I can't really begin to convey that. And yep, I got a lot of scorpio influence. ------------------
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Neptune'sDaughter
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posted January 22, 2012 04:44 AM
10th is how others see you and the plutonic energy you have there could draw that? And, yes, I have Neptune in the 10th, Uranus conj MidHeaven, pisces sun and mercury in the 12th, venus in aqua in the 11th! Yeah ALOT in my chart is read as gaining female attraction, I have many aspects regarding it but I'd have to find my readings.------------------
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Neptune'sDaughter
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posted January 22, 2012 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
It's a good thing I have self control because I do have it in me to stalk someone should I want to. Instead it manifests in another way; I am EXTREMELY nosy. I must know anything and everything about a person as possible (in particular if I like them a lot), and I will go pretty far out of my way to find it out. Of course, I do not want to be detected with this, and I don't get detected 99% of the time. I am really really nosy, I can't really begin to convey that. And yep, I got a lot of scorpio influence.
I'D sniffer you out that 1%, tautomer! LOL Having a lil bro Scorp trained me well. Scorpios only get by me when I choose to look the other way LOL *SuperScorpMoon Ninja Air Sounds* LOL I know the potential of what I can find out about people just by allowing my supersenses to be interested in others. I think this is why I don't even go through people's fb albums or past things said, etc. I've seen to many Plutonians go Darth Vader and it freaks me out man!! Lol I must say that I do love the thought of a guy 'finding out' SOME things about me and kind of being around and able to catch subtle things about me.. But I'm talking that silent taurus kind of way NOT that 'I'm your prey' Scorpstuff! If a man stalkered me like that I.. ------------------
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sand
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posted January 22, 2012 05:10 AM
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Originally posted by Anjellyfish:
I've heard people say it can be Leo or Scorpio moons?
wait wha?! i don't understand how a leo moon could stalk. we're abit too into ourselves for that.  edit: okay i guess a lot of people answered leo hehe! so perhaps we can be too. i have never stalked anyone but i can know everything. no not telepathy, nothing like that. people just tell me stuff i guess. IP: Logged |
Neptune'sDaughter
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posted January 22, 2012 05:27 AM
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Originally posted by sand:
wait wha?! i don't understand how a leo moon could stalk. we're abit too into ourselves for that.
He's trying to throw us off his trail!! Actually I knew a Virgo sun, Leo Moon, Scorpio rising girl and she stalked EVERYONE. EVV.ERRYY.OONE. In her contacts. You hurt her fragile ego moon and omg she'll stalk you for YEARS. She still tries to fb message me sometimes! My mom is an Aries Moon and she was a private investigator and she also personally stalks anyone who fudges with her ego. Like people you forget existed she'll know when they have their grandkids lmbo Yeah my biggest stalker, as I said was Leo Sun. Her ego was also waaay to invested in it. Scorpio is said to be comprised of a good portion of ego too. I see it making sense. ------------------
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RegardesPlatero
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posted January 22, 2012 05:30 AM
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tautomer4314
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posted January 22, 2012 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by Neptune'sDaughter:
I'D sniffer you out that 1%, tautomer! LOL Having a lil bro Scorp trained me well. Scorpios only get by me when I choose to look the other way LOL *SuperScorpMoon Ninja Air Sounds* LOLI know the potential of what I can find out about people just by allowing my supersenses to be interested in others. I think this is why I don't even go through people's fb albums or past things said, etc. I've seen to many Plutonians go Darth Vader and it freaks me out man!! Lol I must say that I do love the thought of a guy 'finding out' SOME things about me and kind of being around and able to catch subtle things about me.. But I'm talking that silent taurus kind of way NOT that 'I'm your prey' Scorpstuff! If a man stalkered me like that I..
That sounds a challenge ma'am  . If I want to know about someone, I won't just stop at their facebook. I'll follow any breadcrumb trail I can possibly find to see more about them. In the end I just like knowing for the sake of knowing. It also can be extremely useful. Allows me to know how to act around someone more. I will gather TONS of information about someone, but I will never speak of any of it unless I know it is safe to. If someone has a strong radar, then they can and will see me "reading" other people. The depth of it though is not always gathered though. My mom picks up on it pretty easily when I do it to her. She sort of doesn't like it as much anymore because in the past few years I have gotten way better at it and she says she can sometimes "feel" me scanning her, and while it's not uncomfortable for her, it's more unnerving because it feels like she is force to stand on a stool in a void in a sense. Completely open. She is pretty sensitive though. The thing I have been working on recently is finding a damn volume knob for this. The darth vadar comment made me lol! I seldom go that way. If someone tells me they don't like something or want me to stop I will back off. Despite my scorpio energy I'm actually not the slightest bit vengeful. It all just stays in my head. ------------------
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Neptune'sDaughter
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posted January 22, 2012 09:41 PM
@tautomer haha No! I issue No such challenge!------------------
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hannaramaa
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posted January 22, 2012 11:01 PM
That does sound like a Capricorn to be quite honest. They are quite determined and tenacious individuals once they've set their sights on someone. They're patient, and they're much like Taurus' in studying the object of their affection. I always thought Mars in the 12th was a stalking placement too. Like a ninja. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen
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Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 23, 2012 09:36 AM
Oh man. Cancer moon here and have a lot of capricorn in my chart. Soooo guilty of being an annoying stalker. But in my experience, if you dig and dig too much, you will get lead down the wrong path because you are seeing things you WANT to see. But sometimes it helps reveal the truth. I will obsess until I want to shoot myself....so basically I have a problem! IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted January 23, 2012 12:18 PM
I'm gonna add Taurus energy in one of the Big 3 to this as well!IP: Logged |
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