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Topic: Galactic and Super Galactic Chart - Our inner flame
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VenusdeIndia Knowflake Posts: 102 From: India Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 20, 2012 04:06 AM
The Galactic center has been discussed often here, particularly in the context of star-seeds. However I was struck by this quote:
Our Sun involuntarily revolves around the Galactic Center, much like the Earth does around the Sun. Our Galaxy rotates around another nucleus of thirty-odd galaxies, the Super Galactic Center. All this draws toward an enigmatic point known as the Great Attractor, which appears to be steered by another super-cluster
If the Sun is the foundation of the Tropical Zodiac, I thought maybe the Galactic centre - the sun that feeds the sun represents a point of deeper emanation of the soul matrix, maybe the Supergalactic maybe even deeper....
On a lark I switched my whole chart with the Galactic center at 26 Sag as representing 0 Leo...... GC planet to Tropical
Mercury ( natal IC ruler ) on n.South node
Venus-Chiron conjunct n.Isis, opposing n.Sun, Moon, Kaali Saturn conjunct n.Valentine - Atlantis Uranus conjunct n.Moon Pluto conjunct n.Venus-Chiron Asc conjunct n.Pluto, n.Saturn conj GC AC from GC 12 house. I have always been puzzled at the lack of Pluto, Saturn and Uranus to my natl planets and house cusps because these are THE 3 most dominant themes in my life and vibe. Could it be that the Galactic positions are the underlying pulses that feed the natal positions ??
I took it further and just skimmed over my Twin flame's aspects to my GC.. My GC Planet to Twin Flames natal
Kaali and Sun conjunct his Venus Moon conjunct his True Node True Node conjunct his draco DC Venus-Chiron conjunct his Sun Jupiter conjunct his Saturn AC conjunct his Uranus,Kaali and Karma Valentine conjunct his DC and DC ruler Jupiter Siva conjunct his AC Isis and Juno conjunct his n.SNode Twin flame's GC planets to my natal planets Moon and Mars conjunct my n. Jupiter,Proserpina Mercury ( N. AC ruler ) conjunct my n. True node. Saturn opposed my n.Sun, Moon Uranus conjunct my n. Valentine, Venus-Chiron True node conjunct my n. Psyche and DC Karma conjunct my n. Venus-Chiron Juno ,Kaali conjunct my n. Valentine Siva conjunct my n.True Node I need to spiral on my Galactic chart before I move onto the Super G.C. chart. My higher self tells me the G.C. and S.GC are nothing but the light of Vishnu - the Vedic aspect of God that pervades the cosmos to sustain and witness our soul's experiences in 3D - GC being specific to our galaxy ..... No Vishnu - GC is not our Higher Self or Oversoul but rather the aspect of God quite distinct from our own light that functions as our provider,witness and guide while it pervades our own soul consciousness.....
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 20, 2012 04:19 AM
Did you switch the GC to 00 Leo, because according to Tobey the "real" housesystem starts with 00 Leo instead of 00 Aries?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 20, 2012 04:20 AM
Or did you switch it because Leo is of course ruled by Sun?IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 20, 2012 05:49 AM
I`ve noticed a lot of correlations with the Draconic positions. Did you experience that as well?IP: Logged |
VenusdeIndia Knowflake Posts: 102 From: India Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 20, 2012 06:13 AM
quote: Did you switch the GC to 00 Leo, because according to Tobey the "real" housesystem starts with 00 Leo instead of 00 Aries?Or did you switch it because Leo is of course ruled by Sun?
The latter was my first insights... maybe they both are the reasons...
quote: I`ve noticed a lot of correlations with the Draconic positions. Did you experience that as well?
Me too !! I didnt post about that though .
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 20, 2012 07:49 AM
I find the connection to the Draco`s interesting, especially since the Draco`s are based on the lunar nodes. You have some REALLY big things going on there! (BTW I don`t know if you know who I am, but in my last incarnation on LL I was Darkdreamer/ DD, maybe you remember).
Anyway, it makes complete sense to me that your GC Saturn conjuncts your Valentine-Atlantis, the pointer to your Twinflame. And you have the big transformer Pluto on your Venus-Chiron.
But what I really find astounding are the ASC-connections to Pluto and Saturn, wow, that looks super signifcant, serious and deep. I have only glimpsed at mine, but what I found interesting was that my GC Eros / Vertex is PRECISELY conjunct my natal Psyche (and mean BML). I feel I need to ponder about what that means in terms of interpretation.
I also noticed how my NN-Neptune conjunction ends up being on SIRIUS in the GC-chart and my ASC-Angel-Wisdom is just about 2 degrees off it. GC Pluto conjuncts natal SPHINX precisely (someone pointed out the importance of this, because my SPHINX is precisely square the SPHINX in its own Discovery chart). GC Sun is on 29 Cancer (very close to the GC in natal itself) and this opposes my Draco Pluto. GC Saturn is on 21 Aquarius conjunct my Moon widely and tightly conjunct SUMERIA and URANIA. GC NN and GC Neptune are conjunct natal Saturn. GC Karma is on 20 Capricorn - my natal Antivertex and Sun/Moon-mp is on 21 Capricorn as well, and natal Eros is on 21 Cancer and Destinn on 23 Cancer - long before I termed it my "destiny-axis". GC Uranus conjuncts natal DESC and Draco Moon IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 20, 2012 07:49 AM
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VenusdeIndia Knowflake Posts: 102 From: India Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 20, 2012 08:28 AM
quote: You have some REALLY big things going on there! (BTW I don`t know if you know who I am, but in my last incarnation on LL I was Darkdreamer/ DD, maybe you remember).
Aaawwww
Ofcourse I remember YOU ! I actually remembered you when I made this thread !
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Anyway, it makes complete sense to me that your GC Saturn conjuncts your Valentine-Atlantis, the pointer to your Twinflame. And you have the big transformer Pluto on your Venus-Chiron.
What is interesting is that these pointers are absent in natal and draconics altogether !
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But what I really find astounding are the ASC-connections to Pluto and Saturn, wow, that looks super signifcant, serious and deep.
My thoughts too, these were absent in natls altogether, although dr. Saturn conjuncts n. sun and Moon. Natally though Saturn and Pluto werent doing anything. I must get back with the Super GC positions.
I will also spiral on your GC pointers - they look significant too ! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 20, 2012 10:46 AM
"Ofcourse I remember YOU ! I actually remembered you when I made this thread !" I must have sensed that. But yes, you know, how much I love intriguing new concepts! " What is interesting is that these pointers are absent in natal and draconics altogether !" That is interesting indeed. I would have thought these would be extraordinarily strong. "although dr. Saturn conjuncts n. sun and Moon. " Sounds quite strong as well, definitely a soulpurpose there. "I must get back with the Super GC positions." Would you also relate these back to 00 Leo?
"I will also spiral on your GC pointers - they look significant too !" Thanks. I am curious what you think of these. IP: Logged |
VenusdeIndia Knowflake Posts: 102 From: India Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 20, 2012 01:33 PM
quote: Would you also relate these back to 00 Leo?
I need to spiral on what the difference between the GC and the Super G.C. is.... insights are welcome. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 20, 2012 02:42 PM
I found this post on astrotribe"Our Milky Way Galaxy is one of many tens of thousands of galaxies that cluster together to form a large metagalaxy or super galaxy. All these galaxies rotate around a center called the super galactic center (SGC). Location of the Galactic Center of the Milky Way Galaxy Our Milky Way’s galactic center (GC) is at a right angle to the super galactic center (SGC), because of this the GC and the SGC are closely related to the Earth's equinoxes and solstices and therefore the Cardinal Cross. These superstructures [SGC and GC] are literally perpendicular to each other with their centers at the zero points of the Cardinal signs. [GC/Capricorn/ December solstice, SGC/Libra/September equinox] Here is great food for thought in understanding the traditional meaning of the zodiac. Each year the Earth passes through the plane of the Super Galaxy at the Equinoxes and the plane of our Galaxy around the Solstices. The midpoint between these two great planes and centers occurs in Scorpio/Taurus, and it is in these signs that the earth/sun axis moves out-of-line with one great center and begins to form an alignment with the other. - Michael Erlewine from "The Galactic Nucleus" Note: The earth/sun axis ... the earth is opposite the sun on the zodiacal map. Location of the Super Galactic Center between the constellations Virgo and Leo With the March equinox, the sun enters the sign Aries (time of the Easter Festival) and it also enters the super galactic plane opposite the SGC, away from the inner hub at the outer rim of this super galaxy. At the same time, the earth (opposite the sun) enters the sign Libra and the super galactic plane at the SGC, the hub of this super galaxy. Both move into this expansive plane until each reaches a climactic midpoint, the sun in the sign Taurus (Wesak Festival) and the earth in Scorpio. Afterwards each begins to move out of the super galactic plane, toward the galactic plane. (Each later enters the galactic plane at the June solstice.) Note: Easter's Full Moon occurs in the Holy Grail, the constellation Virgo, the Virgin. The Wesak Full Moon occurs in the constellation Libra, the Balance. While the earth and sun are still transiting the super galactic plane, the Goodwill Festival’s Full or nearly Full Moon is positioned near the Heart of our Galaxy (GC). Two to three days before the June solstice, the earth conjoins the Heart of our Galaxy (GC). At the June solstice the sun enters the sign Cancer and moves into the galactic plane; the earth enters Capricorn and moves into the galactic plane. After the close of the Three Major Spiritual Festivals, in July, the earth’s orbit places our planet the furthest it gets from our physical sun. This astronomical event, known as earth at aphelion, occurs annually around July 3–7. The physical sun, though furthest from the earth, is now closest to, in conjunction with Sirius, our Spiritual Sun, while the planetary Hierarchy is in close alignment with the earth, responding to our invocative appeal during the recent Spiritual Festivals. At this time a powerful relationship is set up on the galactic plane between our physical sun and our Spiritual Sun and between the Hierarchy and the earth. Energies from Sirius can now flow freely through our sun, the solar system and the Hierarchy to our earth, evoking a response in humanity and stimulating evolution. The Hierarchy steps down the potent incoming energies to assist humanity in their assimilation. The Major Festivals, occuring in the spring for the northern hemisphere and autumn for the southern hemisphere (*), prepare our vehicles to cooperate with our Planetary Logos, Sanat Kumara, and assist humanity as a united group in becoming aware of extra-planetary energies. These Festivals are preparatory for the annual Sirius / Leo Festival, which aligns the soul-infused, focused humanity with the cosmic energies of the Sirian Hierarchy. The sun reaches the climactic midpoint of the galactic plane in the sign Leo; the earth reaches this point in Aquarius. Afterwards each begins to move out of the galactic plane toward the super galactic plane. At the September equinox the sun moves into the sign Libra and the super galactic plane at the SGC, the hub of this super galaxy, while the earth enters Aries and moves into the super galactic plane opposite the SGC, away from the inner hub at the outer rim of this super galaxy. The sun reaches the climactic mid-point in the sign Scorpio (Halloween, Days of the Dead); the earth reaches this point in Taurus. Afterwards each begins to move out of the super galactic plane toward the galactic plane. Two to three days before the December solstice, the sun conjoins the Heart of our Galaxy (GC). At the solstice the sun enters Capricorn and moves into the galactic plane; the earth enters Cancer and moves into the galactic plane. The planetary spiritual Hierarchy goes into meditation in preparation for the inpouring of energies at Wesak, and the Festival cycle begins anew! The annual cycle of invocation and evocation begins with the Hierarchy’s December Solstice meditation. This prolonged hierarchical meditation prepares the way for Three Major Planetary Festivals and the Sirius / Leo Festival, which in turn evoke evolution, initiation, service, and a great spiritual unity throughout planet earth. From:www.souledout.org/cosmology/gc/gp.html " http://astrotribe.tribe.net/thread/f3ed3767-baf8-4b32-b9df-c74248049346
I have to meditate on this. Hey, just had a crazy idea. What if it actually works in reference to the GC? Though this is probably nonsense. lol I really have to think about it some more. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 20, 2012 02:49 PM
15 degree Scorpio / Taurus used to be the reference-frame for astrology, back in Babylon.The Aldebaran-Antares axis was falling onto 15 Taurus - 15 Scorpio back then, and thus it became the fiducial axis. They were the reference frame / reference axis, against which everything else was being measured.Interestingly as it seems, this axis seems to be roughly on the midpoint of the GC and SGC. IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Moderator Posts: 1050 From: Beehive, MD Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2012 02:58 PM
Welcome back, Venus!!! Hope you've been well! I'm so glad you and Ceri are back to help drive exploration into interesting lesser-known topics, not to mention new ones! I love the idea of research for the sake of research, and wish I could join in, in equal measure - time constraints and more likely, knowledge capacity, hold me back, but it gives me great pleasure to see these kind of threads from the two of you!! *initiating a BIG virtual group hug* Sunshine IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 2441 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 20, 2012 03:00 PM
GC conjuncts exact neptune in the first which is the strongest planet in my chart according to Pullen report. It also conjuncts my sun/moon midpoint by one orb.Sun/moon midpoint conjuncts neptune and both conjunct the GC and all trine my venus/mars conjunction. IP: Logged |
sunshine9 Moderator Posts: 1050 From: Beehive, MD Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 20, 2012 03:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by VenusdeIndia: I have always been puzzled at the lack of Pluto, Saturn and Uranus to my natl planets and house cusps because these are THE 3 most dominant themes in my life and vibe.
VDI, Does your Draconic chart not show these themes adequately? Have you looked at prenatal eclipse charts as well? Sunshine IP: Logged |
VenusdeIndia Knowflake Posts: 102 From: India Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 20, 2012 11:19 PM
quote: VDI,Does your Draconic chart not show these themes adequately? Have you looked at prenatal eclipse charts as well?
No, the draco saturn on Sun, Moon is the only thing. No Saturn or Pluto aspects to any personal planets in natal at all - this baffled me as I couldnt understand the plutonic energy I clearly felt especially since the past 7 years I started meditating and clearing a lot of junk from my system.... More on that later, I am formulating a theory on what the GC and its planet positions mean and how they affect us. IP: Logged |
VenusdeIndia Knowflake Posts: 102 From: India Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 11:15 AM
Some important insights fro Phillip Sedgewick that help understand... http://www.philipsedgwick.com/Galactic/GalacticCtr.htm quote:
The Galactic Center recently received verification that it contains a black hole as its center. The resulting energy squeeze emits a wide array of powerful radiation, most notably infrared (IFR) in this instance. This Infrared energy pressures the subconscious mind, providing the release of learned behavior and memories, both negative and positive, all in the interest of moving forward. The energetic crowding process pushes out mentally/emotionally stored data to clear space for new information to enter both the conscious and subconscious minds.
So here it is... As per Vedic thought the planets are in fact a group of elemental beings with consciousness but no will who influence us in keeping with the principle that God manifests into 10 different aspects... The planets of our solar system are mere physical representations of the principles that govern this 3 D solar system, its not their physical mass that influences us but the underlying elementals. So exponentiating it further, we are of this solar system at a physical homo sapien level, so natal planets and their interplay will affect us mostly up until the point we consider ourselves such. Once we start asking questions and questioning what is the Draconic zodiac nudges us onto the path of growth....maybe I shpuld plot a draco chart based on GC planet positions as well... The GC planets are thus the play of the same 10 elementals at a Galactic level. Barbara Hand clow has an excellent meditation that helps connect us with the GC thru our crown chakra. So GC planetary postions affect us through the energy we take in from there in our physical and astral bodies and interact with our natal overlay.... It was only AFTER my True Node return at 19 that I started moving towards my Draco path, meditating on my crown - I firmly know THAT is when my GC positions came to life. Up until that point I had NEVER felt the energy of GC Pluto on my Venus-Chiron and AC on natal Pluto. GC positions come to life the moment we start thinking of ourselves as more than belonging to this Solar system, as coming from THE source. The thing that convinces me most about this is my GC aspects with my Twin Flame...gosh that's spooky.... IP: Logged |
VenusdeIndia Knowflake Posts: 102 From: India Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 11:16 AM
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alaz7200 Knowflake Posts: 270 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 21, 2012 05:05 PM
Hi all,Would love to know more about the Galactic Centre, as its been an area of astrology that few have delved into hitherto. My Sun is 27' Sagittarius, so precisely conjunct the GC. It's also inspected, so its influence is felt extremely potently in my chart. I've been told its the focal point of my chart and that all planets work around it. Let me know if you'd like some insight into its effect! IP: Logged |
Taineberry Knowflake Posts: 651 From: Registered: Jun 2011
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posted January 21, 2012 05:10 PM
My vertex is tightly conjunct the Galactic Centre ... I don't know if this has any significance, but if there is any I would love to know what this means.IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 22, 2012 01:35 PM
As I`ve seen it until now the GC seemed to me as channelling a lot of energy, and energizing/ empowering any planet that was there in strong ways.It seems to "supercharge" a planet conjunct it, and the planet might also seems as if to "download information", which usually he could not have derived from normal sources. I know I am still a bit vague on it, maybe VDI has better ideas. These are some quotes: "The Galactic Center acts like a satellite dish, directing divinely inspired information straight to the potentially receptive gray matter of our brains. If you believe in God, this might be the voice you hear. Regardless, within this connection you have the ability to pull down wild information which you would otherwise have no way of knowing. Philip Sedgwick Look out for signs that you are resonating at a higher vibrationary level than normal. These could include the following: increased telepathy or deja vu experiences. Coincidences and synchronicity; Feelings of being 'in the flow' - always in the right place at the right time, overheard conversations bringing answers to questions. A turning away from conflict and low energy situations. etc, etc. Kathryn Cassidy. The G.C. is closely grouped with a pair of pulsars which provide "information parenthesis" about it. The pulsar at 24 Sagittarius, 2 degrees before the G.C., provides information relating to the past of an event; that at 28 Sagittarius, 2 degrees after, provides information relating to the future of an event. Those with connections {conjunctions, squares, oppositions, etc.} on either side of the G.C. will more naturally tend to orient information in one of these two directions. Alex Miller-Mignone" And from the same site by Wilkinson: "We are told that the GC was at 26 Sag 52 in 2000, and working back through the centuries we find it at the following approximate points: 26 Sag 31 in 1975, 26 Sag 10 in 1950, 25 Sag 49 in 1925, 25 Sag 28 in 1900, 25 Sag 07 in 1875, 24 Sag 46 in 1850, 24 Sag 25 in 1825, 24 Sag 04 in 1800, 23 Sag 43 in 1775, 23 Sag 22 in 1750, 23 Sag 01 in 1725, and 22 Sag 40 in 1700." http://www.solarcharts.co.nz/The%20Galactic%20Center.htm Which means that my Sun also is conjunct the GC by 00°35 and Mercury conjuncts it by 1°28.
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Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 22, 2012 02:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by VenusdeIndia: The thing that convinces me most about this is my GC aspects with my Twin Flame...gosh that's spooky....
There are quite some headturning ones in there, I agree! ° a lot of conjunctions to ASC/DESC ° True Node, Karma and Saturn present ° very loving aspects present, like DW of Sun-Venus and this delicious Valentine-DESC-conjunction. And of course Kaali, Siva playing an important role IP: Logged |
Ceridwen Knowflake Posts: 6338 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 22, 2012 03:13 PM
VDI,I`ve been checking the synastry I always used to check. my GC - his natal ----------------- Moon opposite Eros exact DESC conjunct Sun and Kaali ASC conjunct Valentine (4) IC conjunct Psyche Venus opposite Siva exact Mars opposite Kaali exact Mars opposite Sun Mars conjunct Valentine Saturn conjunct Amor Neptune conjunct SN Pluto opposite Psyche exact Pluto conjunct Aphrodite exact NN conjunct SN Karma conjunct Jupiter and NN Vertex conjunct Amor Amor oppospite Sun Amor conjunct Valentine Valentine conjunct Osiris Eros conjunct Amor Siva conjunct Saturn Siva opposite Karma Kaali conjunct NN exact Isis conjunct Isis exact Osiris conjunct Isis (1) his GC - my natal ------------------- Moon opposite Amor ASC conjunct Saturn Venus conjunct Saturn exact Mars opposite Venus (4) Saturn conjunct Antivertex Saturn conjunct Sun/Moon-mp Saturn opposite Eros and Saturn Neptune opposite Venus, Isis and Osiris IC conjunct Siva SN conjunct Moon Karma conjunct Vertex and Eros Vertex conjunct Psyche Psyche conjunct SN and Karma Juno opposite Venus Aphrodite opposite Karma exact IP: Logged |
alaz7200 Knowflake Posts: 270 From: Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 23, 2012 11:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ceridwen: As I`ve seen it until now the GC seemed to me as channelling a lot of energy, and energizing/ empowering any planet that was there in strong ways.It seems to "supercharge" a planet conjunct it, and the planet might also seems as if to "download information", which usually he could not have derived from normal sources.
My Sun is 27' degrees Sagittarius, conjunct the Galactic Centre, too! What day is your birthday, December 19th or 20th? I have to say that I feel the Sun very emphasized in my chart. This may also have to do with the fact that the Sun is inspected (despite contrary notions of unaspected planets)... however, the Sun is most definitely the focal point of my chart. In other words, I feel the nature of the Sun very strongly. People always mistake me for a Leo! And I don't have any planets or angles in Leo. I am quite simply very solar. I am extremely proud, confident, extroverted, and authoritative. But very sunny!
What effect does the GC have on you? PS: I experience Deja-Vu ALL. THE. TIME. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 1590 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 24, 2012 01:22 AM
Does the Galactic Center have anything to do with the Great Central Sun? Are they the same thing?IP: Logged | |