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Ceridwen
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posted January 21, 2012 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Today I stumbled across this article on midpoints from cosmitec, and following quote caught my attention:


"In matters of love, the Sun (SO), Moon (MO), Venus (VE), Mars (MA) and the Moon's Node (KN) are very important. If there are no midpoint combinations in the chart comparison that include these planets/points, there is no love relationship."


They are only using conjunction, opposition, square, semisquare and sesisquare for midpoint-aspects. And the orb is strictly one degree. 1°00.

Could you check if your love relationship meet these requirements?

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posted January 21, 2012 10:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
his:
sun/node= sun
moon/venus=sun
moon/mars=venus
(sun/moon is same as my sun but the orb is 3d)
me:
venus/mars=sun
sun/venus=venus

so far those are the conjunctions under 1d orb....and yes it is a love relationship.

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posted January 21, 2012 12:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
midpoints http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/midpoints.html http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/midpoints/index.php http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/midpoints.html http://www.astrocollege.com/campus/libraries/The_Magic_Of_Midpoints.pdf
The Point of Meaning
“Sun/Moon Mid-point
The most important midpoint in astrology, the Sun/Moon midpoint represents the externalization, practical realization, purpose and the meaning of personal existence. The sign placement of your Sun / Moon midpoint will reveal your overall character. The house placement of your Sun / Moon” http://www.cornerstone-astrology.com/articles/midpoints_astrology.htm
third planet conj sun/moon midpoints http://cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/midpointspictures2.html http://cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/midpointpictures.html

the *third planet* conj sun/moon or Asc/Mc could be described as weak conjunction, bit like parallels (conj) and contra parallels (oppositions)

For a planet to BE conj this midpoint, necessarily the must be in *hard aspect* in the natal chart...ie: conj, square or opposition..... so you will already have a flavour how these hard aspects work and I doubt whether you will identify or feel this influences/energy. BUT like parallels if you don't have a natal aspect and a planet is conj this midpoint then it brings in another energy in

How to calculate midpoints http://www.cafeastrology.com/sunmoonmidpointrelationship.html

Free online midpoint calculator http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/midpoints/index.php

Midpoint lessons http://junojuno2.tripod.com/mini.htm http://junojuno2.tripod.com/ http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17513
The orb has to be very tight 1’ or max 1’30” to be effective though

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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posted January 21, 2012 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MC2012     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
“If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”
This is so true.

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Ceridwen
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posted January 21, 2012 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Cappy.
So for your example it fits.

SaggiMC,
thanks for the links. They might be helpful for people who are interested to delve more deeply into the subject.

My intention for this thread was simply to verify if that equation "No such midpoints = no relationship" is really true.

Personally I have found midpoints to be pretty interesting, but I thought that was a very "black - and - white- statement".

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posted January 21, 2012 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My venus/merc/amor (which are tightly conjunct) is conjunct his sun/moon midpoint, and my Juno is conjunct his venus/mars midpoint. His moon is opposite my sun/moon midpoint.

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posted January 21, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taineberry,

thanks.
So of these mentioned
Your Venus=his Sun/Moon and his Moon=your Sun/Moon would meet the requirements?
They are under 1°00?

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posted January 21, 2012 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taineberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, they are less than 1 deg.

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Linda Jones
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posted January 21, 2012 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it ok to look for these connections to Sun/Node, Moon/Node, Venus/Node, and Mars/Node mid points also?

Is sesisquare the same as sesiquadrate or sesquiquadrate? EDIT: Never mind about this one. I found out the answer yes.

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posted January 22, 2012 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nordicsoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Today I stumbled across this article on midpoints from cosmitec, and following quote caught my attention:


"In matters of love, the Sun (SO), Moon (MO), Venus (VE), Mars (MA) and the Moon's Node (KN) are very important. If there are no midpoint combinations in the chart comparison that include these planets/points, there is no love relationship."


They are only using conjunction, opposition, square, semisquare and sesisquare for midpoint-aspects. And the orb is [b]strictly
one degree. 1°00.

Could you check if your love relationship meet these requirements?

[/B]


do you mean mean point in one chart to midpoint in another?

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posted January 22, 2012 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starmoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm in a love relationship, and i checked my chart with my partners and this is what we have for midpoints:

my sun/moon conjunct to his venus @ 0 degree
my sun/venus oppos. his mars @ 0 degree
his moon/venus conjunct my mars @ 1 degree

the only other major one is his sun/moon conjunct my neptune @ 0 degree; this, i feel would be important because of the heavy neptune influence in my chart

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posted January 22, 2012 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Linda Jones     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is it ok to look for these connections to Sun/Node, Moon/Node, Venus/Node, and Mars/Node mid points also?

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Ceridwen
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posted January 22, 2012 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes,n I think so. It just said `any combination of these planets in midpoints`.

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posted January 22, 2012 01:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MC2012:
“If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”
This is so true.

I'm fishing to get people hooked on astrology..... like laying breadcrumbs....

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posted January 22, 2012 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amelia28     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Husband's sun/moon midpoint conjuncts exact my venus and by one orb my mars.

2. His moon/venus midpoint conjuncts exact my asteroid Eros.

3. his venus/NN midpoint conjuncts my venus but by two orbs

4. my sun/moon midpoint OPPOSES his ascendent but by two orbs.

5. my venus/mars midpoint conjuncts his venus by one orb.

I think that is it.

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posted January 22, 2012 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its really hard to tell for me, about my Sun/Moon midpoint..

I have Sun/Moon conjunct my 1 orb natally, so if someone hits my sun, they hit everything..

My sun.moon.mercury.
sun.moon midpoint.
Also my venus/pluto midpoint is conjunct my sun..

So for me I cant really tell the difference, since my whole set up is all together...

I did check my Asc.MC midpoint which is at 2Aqua... I cant think of anyone that has hit this spot.

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posted January 22, 2012 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't remember the rest, but one that i remember is that me and my guy have the same Venus/Mars midpoint. never found anything on it, i think it just means we are horny at the same time whenever something hit it. just joking...

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posted January 20, 2015 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump...

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Randall
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posted January 20, 2015 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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