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Topic: 1st house to 2nd house
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Chironrising
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From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 22, 2012 04:25 PM
  
this is first to seventh...not second.,planets in the seventh house cause issues with partners relative to the personality...so mercury in the seventh conjunct uranus is a lightning quick thinker regarding how the sign goes on it...so sagitarius is someone who shuffles through possibilities regarding travel/ the future/ long mental or physical distances....etc....anything foreign....or detached... And this causes issues with partners who may find this anoying since it opposes the ascendant...his lighning quick thinking may cause partners to go against him...what is required is balanced...or filtering thoughts...or channeling impusliveness into humor.... Therefore the planets in the seventh do not draw that type of person unless they are repressed....so in this case if the person thinks he is a genius...he will not attract the mercury conjunct uranus in teh seventh...but he will move on to his venus sign...and then when he see's that he has his venus sign....he will move on to his 12th house sign.....and he will go this way attracting finaly the eighth house....sign....finally, he or she will be liberated if they can see all aspects in all people as potentialities/realities, and accept this with the others story and reality as it is compassionately....this means the more you want to punish a murderer/ thief/ etc....the more you will attract murderers and thieves...when you see tha tyou are capable of these violent acts in a potential reality....then you will be liberated and experience true free will. IP: Logged |
Capriquarius
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From: So. Cal
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posted January 22, 2012 04:35 PM
Zzzzzzzz...Why did you say 1st & 2nd in the title then? In any case, thank you for your musings. It's refreshing to read views that run contrary to those of professional astrologers who write quality online blogs and have published tomes that people are willing to pay to read. IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 22, 2012 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Zzzzzzzz...Why did you say 1st & 2nd in the title then? In any case, thank you for your musings. It's refreshing to read views that run contrary to those of professional astrologers who write quality online blogs and have published tomes that people are willing to pay to read.
this isn't my idea...this came from a plethora of sources....including basic psychology books regarding the laws of attraction...carl jung...projection, self undueing etc...
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maira
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posted January 22, 2012 05:42 PM
I see where you're coming from (I think), but why did you list the 12th before the 8th? The logical way to integrate them would be well, the chronological one - for obvious reasons. I'm sure that you have a good reason, it just seems to elude me.IP: Logged |
SaggiMC
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From: UK
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted January 22, 2012 05:56 PM
I'm a visual person so can I SEE charts please? also whose chart, yours or a friends?------------------
I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.” IP: Logged |
BeholdAstarte
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From: las vegas, nevada, USA
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 22, 2012 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by Chironrising:
this is first to seventh...not second.,planets in the seventh house cause issues with partners relative to the personality...so mercury in the seventh conjunct uranus is a lightning quick thinker regarding how the sign goes on it...so sagitarius is someone who shuffles through possibilities regarding travel/ the future/ long mental or physical distances....etc....anything foreign....or detached... And this causes issues with partners who may find this anoying since it opposes the ascendant...his lighning quick thinking may cause partners to go against him...what is required is balanced...or filtering thoughts...or channeling impusliveness into humor.... Therefore the planets in the seventh do not draw that type of person unless they are repressed....so in this case if the person thinks he is a genius...he will not attract the mercury conjunct uranus in teh seventh...but he will move on to his venus sign...and then when he see's that he has his venus sign....he will move on to his 12th house sign.....and he will go this way attracting finaly the eighth house....sign....finally, he or she will be liberated if they can see all aspects in all people as potentialities/realities, and accept this with the others story and reality as it is compassionately....this means the more you want to punish a murderer/ thief/ etc....the more you will attract murderers and thieves...when you see tha tyou are capable of these violent acts in a potential reality....then you will be liberated and experience true free will.
i completely agree with what you said about 7th house. all in all interesting, i feel like you might have more to say on the topic or explaining
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Chironrising
Knowflake Posts: 359
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 04:14 AM
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Originally posted by maira:
I see where you're coming from (I think), but why did you list the 12th before the 8th? The logical way to integrate them would be well, the chronological one - for obvious reasons. I'm sure that you have a good reason, it just seems to elude me.
Because the 12th house is unkowned aspects...and I Find that people who are really really repressed attract 12th house even before seventh....and according to psychology it is usually this house that we attract from...but hte astrological rule is 8th house.... for me personally...it was 8th house always...never seventh - i owned that...or 12th...i owned that too...but i never owned my jup in cap. IP: Logged |
Chironrising
Knowflake Posts: 359
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 04:15 AM
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
I'm a visual person so can I SEE charts please? also whose chart, yours or a friends?
Eight people i have done...have all had 7th house boyfriend/girlfriends at the time...current one has scorpio ascendant with a taurus in the seventh... two guys had 12th house girlfriends left and right...libra ascendants with virgo relationships...each one had mercury in the fifth house... that's all i got for you...my hands hurt, IP: Logged |
Chironrising
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From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by BeholdAstarte:
i completely agree with what you said about 7th house. all in all interesting, i feel like you might have more to say on the topic or explaining
I could write a book on it...maybe i will on eday...also note that each hous ehas a shadow...and that is part of the shadow too....if we are going to be correct in forming an absolute shadow...it would be in an un-individuated person....all of the seventh....all of the 12th...and a bit of each house....in a sepearte chart....that would be the shadow. IP: Logged |
milly
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posted January 23, 2012 12:24 PM
Hi Chiron, just curiosity... Is your 8th house the 7th of your sun? I am a pisces, who married a virgo. 6 of his planets fall in my 7th. We work together in a corporation (my 10th is the 7th of my sun. I find it interesting. IP: Logged |
Chironrising
Knowflake Posts: 359
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 03:05 PM
Interesting...I have a cap stellium in the eighth house...but I am told two are actually late in the seventh house...using koch and still I have sag in the seventh... in terms of male friends...I get along great with sagitarius people...they laugh at all my jokes...I put that on merc conj uranus in the seventh....though in terms of females...cap females are crazy for me....crazy....aquarius is a distant third, but we never really work out...they lose interest in me over time, and vice versa...thats venus in aquarius conjunct mc... so for me...that jupiter in the eighth, using any house system is the main cheese i guess..... in real life i've been compared to ethan hawk, and leonardo dicaprio from catch me if you can...by other women... not in terms of looks really, but in terms of voice and demeanor... I also have strong pisces and scorpio....so the side of me that is sea creature - cap sun, is stronger than my mountain climbing side....land goat... but my north node in taurus in the 12th house would have me climb a charitable foundation to be the ceo and use my shadow to help purge industry of its wasteful ways... that's what is stirring in me right now long term goal wise... so with these thoughts i attract cap women...and tehy throw themselves at me and they get on really quick.. the last two big relationships were with capricorns...lasted more than a year...and antoher possible one... i'll add in these relationships i am the one with nothing, and tehy are the ones, older women, with good jobs, trying to take care of me and seal me in... but to me that's the wrong way...it needs to be fair and equal - there's my late seventh house sun talking... so i guess i shine down on capricorns because they don't see my long range thinking as machiavelian....I don't know...shrug? to answer your question my eighth house is my suns 1st house....or, at very most, my suns second house.....but it is my venus houses 12th house......and it is my seventh houe second house...2nd and 8th are the axis of magnitism i believe... does that answer the q? IP: Logged |
maira
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posted January 23, 2012 05:24 PM
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Originally posted by Chironrising:
I could write a book on it...maybe i will on eday...also note that each hous ehas a shadow...and that is part of the shadow too....if we are going to be correct in forming an absolute shadow...it would be in an un-individuated person....all of the seventh....all of the 12th...and a bit of each house....in a sepearte chart....that would be the shadow.
Ooh, great concept! And I bet that you have a water Mercury  I was asking about the 12th because I feel that stuff is buried more deeply there than in the 8th. Repression seems to be more an 8th house matter, while the 12th would mean complete suppression, or at least that's how I see it.
Come to think of it, I've attracted (and been attracted to) people who had their planets in my 12th or ones whose 12th was activated by my planets. IP: Logged |
Chironrising
Knowflake Posts: 359
From: Chicago, IL, USA
Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by maira:
Ooh, great concept! And I bet that you have a water Mercury I was asking about the 12th because I feel that stuff is buried more deeply there than in the 8th. Repression seems to be more an 8th house matter, while the 12th would mean complete suppression, or at least that's how I see it.
Come to think of it, I've attracted (and been attracted to) people who had their planets in my 12th or ones whose 12th was activated by my planets.
where is the ruler of the 12th for you? In your fifth...or seventh....or eighth house? This is common when the ruler of the 12th is there...especially fifth... for me the ruler of the 12th is in my 10th house...and some of my self undueing came from dating woman, since its venus, to reflect off of....I needed a mirror to find my destiny...but now i'm partners with astrology...so that doesn't happened....I was strengthened by astrology and able to be parnters with earth.
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