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Topic: awkward people.
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Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 348 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 07:52 PM
I ask questions on forums and everyone thinks I am the biggest douche in the world. What aspects would influence this?IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6555 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 23, 2012 08:02 PM
Then ask her for her chart info instead of using this thread to bash her. IP: Logged |
SmilingHeart Knowflake Posts: 335 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 08:04 PM
Are you sure others feel that way about her too? (I mean apart from the professor?)Maybe it's just your synastry with her that creates that weird tension? Could you describe her again? Maybe a bit more about why you feel she's awkward and tries too hard...what you've written so far confused me a bit to be honest. IP: Logged |
amowls** Knowflake Posts: 1118 From: Registered: Dec 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 08:10 PM
Hey, lay off the awkward types. There's a lot of pressure to be social when you're naturally introverted. It causes anxiety and isn't fun to deal with.IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 545 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by SmilingHeart: Are you sure others feel that way about her too? (I mean apart from the professor?)Maybe it's just your synastry with her that creates that weird tension? Could you describe her again? Maybe a bit more about why you feel she's awkward and tries too hard...what you've written so far confused me a bit to be honest.
I think he feels bad for saying negative things about someone who's otherwise done no harm so he's using his double-speak Geminis are famous for and balancing out the negative with positive. I can see why Libras and Geminis would get along, lol. Your description of her reminds me of myself, actually, except I think my energy is more guarded and heavy than trying too hard. I keep to myself because I feel awkward interacting with others first. I'd list my signs but I'm still waiting on Astrology and eyes. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 545 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by amowls**: Hey, lay off the awkward types. There's a lot of pressure to be social when you're naturally introverted. It causes anxiety and isn't fun to deal with.
This is very true. IP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 1382 From: Storybrooke Registered: Sep 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by amowls**: Hey, lay off the awkward types. There's a lot of pressure to be social when you're naturally introverted. It causes anxiety and isn't fun to deal with.
--agreed And as someone who DOES have Asperger's, I really do NOT appreciate the comments that you made about that. Try actually getting to KNOW some of us first. For what it's worth, not all Aspie people are alike, and those of us who do go to therapists CAN and do succeed socially. We are NOT hopeless and we can learn to be more graceful in social situations, with effort. There are also different degrees of Asperger's: some have more of the traits than others, some have traits in more severe forms than others. I myself am on the VERY mild end. And, too, not everyone who is awkward has Asperger's or some other thing. You never know WHAT she has been through or what she has suffered. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 348 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:15 PM
Wow you guys. I can be shy too. I can also be akward around people I don't know. it a basic human trait. I just feel bad of her since she tries very hard, and other people just laugh at her..... I'm actually really fascinated by her, I know for the fact I'm not the only person who feels this way. Did you even read everything?... I'm not trying to be mean or judgmental or making fun of her.. So before you assume I'm trying to be a jerk isn't astrology about understanding other people the good and the bad.. People get so defensive lolIP: Logged |
RegardesPlatero Knowflake Posts: 1382 From: Storybrooke Registered: Sep 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Geminisquared: Wow you guys. I can be shy too. I'm actually really fascinated by her, I know for the fact I'm not the only person. Did you even read everything?...
OK, then, but why do you focus so much on her being awkward, rather than what appeals to you? Whether you mean it to or not, it comes off more as critical than as something that you like, from the way that you worded it. What is it about her exactly that you find so interesting? IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 348 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by RegardesPlatero: OK, then, but why do you focus so much on her being awkward, rather than what appeals to you? Whether you mean it to or not, it comes off more as critical than as something that you like, from the way that you worded it. What is it about her exactly that you find so interesting?
I'm not personally trying to attack you. I have met people with Aspergers I don't have a problem with them lmao. Its a legitimate understandable condition. She may not even Aspergers or any condition for that matter... I said she's very innocent and cordial. Like i said I find her fascinating because I've never met someone with her energy before. If I wanted to make fun of her I wouldn't come to some random forum. Obviously I have a general interest in her personality. IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6555 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 23, 2012 08:24 PM
Even if he did describe her it'd just be his subjective opinion as he doesn't even know her. And if he just cared about what might point to awkwardness in the chart, he wouldn't have put her on the stake as an example (possible down syndrome, speech problem, teacher can't stand her, etc.). Seriously. Someone's trying to feel superior.If you don't like her and she makes you uncomfortable then just let it go. No one's saying you have to pay attention to her. It's just the fact that she stands out and you feel threatened by what you don't know. That's it. Get over it. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 348 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: Even if he did describe her it'd just be his subjective opinion as he doesn't even know her. And if he just cared about what might point to awkwardness in the chart, he wouldn't have put her on the stake as an example (possible down syndrome, speech problem, teacher can't stand her, etc.). Seriously. Someone's trying to feel superior.If you don't like her and she makes you uncomfortable then just let it go. No one's saying you have to pay attention to her. It's just the fact that she stands out and you feel threatened by what you don't know. That's it. Get over it.
Why would I want to feel superior to someone I feel bad for? Yes you've never met her. I'm not sure why everyone feels personally insulted by this. Other people in my class see this too and comment about it. People even ask her questions just to better understand her. I'm actually curious about things I do not understand. Is she going to be alone all her life? probably not, theirs nothing wrong with her. I think youre quick to judge other peoples intentions. Whatever thou, I actually stopped caring now lol IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 265 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:35 PM
Ouch, y'all.I think Gem's just trying to ask, "What in a natal chart would tend to manifest as awkwardness in social situations?" Heck, I'm interested, too. My husband hates being in crowds unless he's *on* (by "on" I mean lecturing or doing something else he's very proficient at - then he slips into "do" mode). I'm thinking, for him, this may be his Sun conj. Jupiter opposing Moon conj. Neptune action - 'cause the signs involved sure don't seem to indicate it (Gem & Saggi, respectively). He also has a lot of Saturn action in his chart, but it's mostly benign (trine his Moon/Neptune, sextile his Sun/Jupiter, trine his Pluto, but sq his Uranus and Merc). I really don't know, though. Acknowledging someone's quirks isn't necessarily downing them. Hell, I like/love the guy described above so much that I share a life and have lots of sex with him --- Edited to add: And, while it may have seemed like overstepping to some of you that he conjectured if she's someone on the Aspergers/Autism spectrum or not, he probably didn't mean it that way. Again, hell - some of the coolest people I've known have been diagnosed with Aspergers. They've, to a one, been deep, fascinating individuals who just take a little bit longer to get to know than most others. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 545 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 08:40 PM
Again, I second Mockingbird. Gem - From what I've experienced I think Virgo (placements) and Capricorn (placements) can add an awkward energy to someone. Both of these signs are very contained (yes, I know, not ALWAYS...) and proper. Libras are also proper but more out of consideration for others than what they deem as appropriate/inappropriate in social situations. It's a very fine line though. IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 348 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 09:01 PM
She was taking to this other class mate that she does not trust other people. Which is understandable, but I feel like it was not her talking. She seems nice and friendly and wanting to socialize with people. there is a disconnection from who she really is and who she wants to portray.Which obviously confuses people. Which may make her seem uninviting to some. I don't have a problem with her she does not annoy me or anything. Maybe she has a neurotic parent who influences her to be extremely untrusting. I was just throwing out some things I noticed about her which I thought could be relevant. I have some negative moon aspects and I can relate to her, I'm not sure how to portray myself around other people who I'm not acquainted with.IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2398 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 09:17 PM
I have to say - I love Geminis.. but sometimes they spend too much time thinking about what other people are doing and too little time thinking about themselves.I've been in situations before where a Gemini person incorrectly assumed that I wanted 'company' or that I wanted to socialise and that I was shy -- when in reality I am not shy at all. It's just that (and this comes as a surprise to Gemini people)....... ............. . are you ready for it? . . . . . . are you sitting down? . . . . . . . . There are times when I just don't feel like TALKING! *shock* *horror* I know... It's incredibly strange for a Gemini person - but some of us can ENJOY silence and solitude. So at least in my case - if someone sees me 'all alone'.. it is because I am choosing to be alone and I want space... not because I am looking for a good samaritan Gemini friend to feel sorry for me or talk to me. Also, usually people talk TO and interact with those individuals they LIKE. Not everyone *likes* everyone else... and some of us take more time to warm up to people. For instance - I was taking a summer course.. and there were 25 people in my class. Five of them I really like and will keep in touch with. Two of them I basically dislike... I have a lot to criticise about them and for that reason I'm not interested in a friendship. The rest I'm neutral towards! Interestingly the two people I don't particularly like... kept trying to have lunch with me and talk to me.. and I am *positive* (because I pick up on vibes quite well) that these two people got it into their heads that I was "shy"... which makes me wonder - why it is people never simply acknowledge that sometimes *others* are simply NOT that INTO them. It's not always shyness. Sometimes - if they do not talk to you - they simply don't like you. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2398 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 09:20 PM
I mean honestly -- this is a question for you Mr. Gemini: What is a tactful way to avoid people you do not like and not seem "shy" whilst doing it? IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6555 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 23, 2012 09:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: And, while it may have seemed like overstepping to some of you that he conjectured if she's someone on the Aspergers/Autism spectrum or not, he probably didn't mean it that way. Again, hell - some of the coolest people I've known have been diagnosed with Aspergers. They've, to a one, been deep, fascinating individuals who just take a little bit longer to get to know than most others.
No, he put it out there as in "she may be retarded, but I'm not sure, and basically no one, including me, can stand her. Oh and the teacher is SO COOL for calling her out on her AWKWARD behavior. He gets major points for that."Again, if he just cares about awkwardness in a chart, why would he bring her up as he doesn't have hers. Why would he bring up that she possibly has down syndrome. Sounds like a right creep to me.
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 1965 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 09:25 PM
Home schooling is not a bad thing....people who are home school tend to have higher IQs and a lot of what you are taught in school are lies bc knowledge is power and the people on top of the pyramid control the media, the schools and information we learn unless we are aware enough to do our own research.IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 1965 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 09:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: I have to say - I love Geminis.. but sometimes they spend too much time thinking about what other people are doing and too little time thinking about themselves.I've been in situations before where a Gemini person incorrectly assumed that I wanted 'company' or that I wanted to socialise and that I was shy -- when in reality I am not shy at all. It's just that (and this comes as a surprise to Gemini people)....... ............. . are you ready for it? . . . . . . are you sitting down? . . . . . . . . There are times when I just don't feel like TALKING!
LMAAAAAAAAAO IP: Logged |
Lonake Moderator Posts: 6555 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 23, 2012 09:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: which makes me wonder - why it is people never simply acknowledge that sometimes *others* are simply NOT that INTO them. It's not always shyness. Sometimes - if they do not talk to you - they simply don't like you.
Oh THIS is a BIG one. I've often wondered the same thing. It's funny to me that it never crosses their minds that they might not be the least bit interesting to someone else. Go fig. Maybe they're the kids who had smoke blown up their backsides while growing up that they were so wonderful and amazing at everything and that anyone would be ab delighted to make their acquaintance. or something else. I haven't figured it out quite yet. But you bring up a good point.IP: Logged |
Geminisquared Knowflake Posts: 348 From: nyc Registered: Nov 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 09:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: I mean honestly -- this is a question for you Mr. Gemini: What is a tactful way to avoid people you do not like and not seem "shy" whilst doing it?
I normally do not have a problem with people unless they cross me, or are confrontational . I don't social to much in class since I'm usually working the whole time. At work I have coworkers who I really dislike, usually I'll behave normal with them. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2398 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted January 23, 2012 09:31 PM
Sometimes people's 'mouths' (or in this case thoughts) get ahead of them.I understood what GeminiSquared was saying - but obviously the way he put it was not tactful. I strongly doubt he is a creep or that he has an issue with this girl. If he is anything like my other Gemmy buddies... then in his perfect Gemini idea of "heaven" everyone would be 'friends' and everyone would have fun all day long.. So from his perspective she is lonely and in need of help. I really don't think he had any negative intentions in posting this. IP: Logged |
Illusion21 Newflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 09:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: Then ask her for her chart info instead of using this thread to bash her.
We really need a like button on LL like the one on Facebook IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 947 From: Ontario, Canada! Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 23, 2012 09:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Lonake: Then ask her for her chart info instead of using this thread to bash her.
EDIT! OMG, ILLUSION21... Also, LOL @ Betty Boop's dramatic ways! IP: Logged |