posted January 24, 2012 04:59 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
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dont blame me, blame my scorp sun, mars and pluto for stating the obvious

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted January 24, 2012 07:01 PM            

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How does one achieve North Noditude...

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North Noditude is a moment is time - age 18, 36, 54...

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is there like, some instructions, 'cause I really don't know.

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Yes, but those instructions have different meanings to each of us. If you're off track you'll be gently guided onto the right one.

posted January 24, 2012 07:30 PM            

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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
MY MC is sagittarus, i am good teacher and adviser.

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same here, but N Node in scorpio in 10th. Now if anyone wants to get back on topic and discuss or research N Node...?
http://www.cafeastrology.com/northnodesouthnode.html http://www.astrologycom.com/nodes.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrology-articles/north-node-karma.php http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/moon_nodes.htm http://northnodeastrology.blogspot.com/search/label/North%20Node%20and%20the%20Quest%20for%20the%20Authentic%20Self http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/nodes http://astrologyforthesoul.com/astrologyproblems.html http://astrologyforthesoul.com/monnodzpolari.html

posted January 25, 2012 03:32 PM            

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Originally posted by acousticbob:
I like it..

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I'm glad you do, sir! ;D

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Originally posted by Nine:
North Noditude is a moment is time - age 18, 36, 54...

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posted January 25, 2012 04:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
^ I swear, you sound like you're in a trance right thur.

I don't see how it's possible to follow my stupid NN, so fuq it.

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How do I sound like I am in a trance?

I REFUSE to just reject something even if I don't see it as possible, in particular with astrology. I am a perfectionist (one of the benefits of a virgo south node I suppose). Because of this, I must find a way to intergrate over to my NN. Hard as it may be, it can be done, and it will be done, even if it kills me in the end.

I don't stand aside and stand down easy .

posted January 26, 2012 12:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Rosalind:
NN in Aries H6. Yes, I am totally following my NN. I tried not to but it's impossible. Since NN is your current path of life, you cannot avoid it. It's your mission to accomplish.

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posted January 26, 2012 01:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
^ I swear, you sound like you're in a trance right thur.

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LOL reminded me of last nights convo on tiny chat....redscorp said something with "thur"

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

posted January 26, 2012 06:02 PM            

This past month I have been stressing a lot about becomming a monk, and much of that stress comes from worrying about my nodal axis. A forest monk's job is to find a secluded place, sit down, and become deeply observent of his self until all views and ideas of self are deconstructed (That is a poor description, but it is sufficient for this topic). Having South Node in Aries H12, I have been convinced deep down that "running off into solitude to focus on the self", is almost a perfect way to phrase my South Node's energy. To top everything else off, I was unable to visit the monastery on the date I hoped for and ended up scheduled to visit on a Sun/natal SN conjunction. Having NN conjunct Pluto in my natal chart, the nodal axis seems to even outshine my MC, so stress over "my purpose" is strong. The resolution I arrived at was very helpful however.

People talk of the nodes as if the SN should be abandoned and the NN should be what we fill our waking moments with. That doesn't account for the fact that the nodal axis is an opposition. The opposition as an aspect, is about finding a balance by learning to appreciate the qualities of both sides. Oppositions actually result in problems when one side selfishly rules the relationship. In the case of the nodal axis we are fortunate, because we know the "puropse" or "function" of both opposing positions.

The South Node: represents the energy we feel comfortable with, the "no brainer" topic we will always ace; South Node is like moving to another country and taking a college course on your native language for an easy A.

The North Node: represents the energy which draws us out of our old habits, the challenging topic we can misunderstand or fail at; North Node is like moving to another country and having to learn the language in order to get by.

Sure, you can find janky ways to communicate without language, but you gain full access to your environment when you finally make the effort to learn. Using the language example, when we embark on learning something new, we don't abandon our old knowledge, we use it as a base. When I hear "Hola" my mind thinks "Hola means Hi". The new language is learned as it associates with my native language.

My SN is Aries conjunct Eris, 12th House. I was raised to feel very different from others and only in the depths of solitude have I found self acceptance. I can have many sharp edges to protect my self and am very good at weaving the perfect social image in order to get what I want (Eris in Aries), but rarely (if ever) are others welcome to know me at my most vulnerable. I have so much water and intensity influencing my chart, that being social can actually mainfest as physical pain. I can't stand being around other people, because I feel the most "at home" not ignoring what is behind people's masks (Neptune conj Sun in the 8th House, trine SN). It is therefor easiest for me to avoid social interaction or give off a "leave me alone" vibe, than it is to stand around in crowds of people's ignored issues. When I am alone, I feel as though I can expand, extend my wings. When I am around others, I feel like I have no skin and I keep bumping into things.

My NN is in Libra conjunct Pluto, 6th House. To me, this means it is essential for me to learn from relationships in order to be of service. This means I should use relationships to transform (Pluto is conj DSC) and refine my ability to serve. All my life I have felt my "curse" of being able to feel people's pain is intended to help others. Since I was young, I dreamed about creating a therapeutic space for people to come and feel loved. Because Pluto is there, doing anything else feels like I am wasting precious time which could be spent working toward my dream.

Last night I kept bouncing between these two futures, write a book/build an astrological dating site (generating the money for the healing center) or go be a monk. My stomach started to hurt from all the worry, so I got up to track down old boyfriends on facebook and get my mind off the problem (lol Pluto in Libra, you're so cute). I found a boyfriend from a loooong time ago and sent him a friend request, then felt tired enough to go back to bed. The moment I laid down it hit me. I can use my experience as a monk to open my own monastery. I can use my SN talents to fulfill my NN needs. Through the selflessness experienced as a monk, I can be of great service to others. Through career meditation, I can learn to feel other people's pain without getting overwhelmed. Through renunciation, I can learn skillful ways to be comfortable with being social.

In closing, I think the SN is the firtile ground in which our NN is planted. One of my favorite Zen masters Thich Nhat Hanh, is quoted saying "No Mud, No Lotus". This means, the old and sometimes negative experiences/patterns nourish our growth into beautiful beings. Without mud, a lotus seed will not sprout and become a beautiful flower. When we say things like "I don't like that sign" we are really saying, "I don't like the people I have met who are that sign". The sign itself is just an energy and offers broader access to your environment once you are capable of speaking its language.