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Neptune'sDaughter
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posted January 24, 2012 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok, after all the Venus in the houses threads, I've been wondering.. where/how are my fellow 11th-housers finding their loves?

Mine have been through groups, predominately school. I also have been introduced to either them or their social circles through mutual friends/acquaintences. I also have attracted romantic feelings from people online. Mostly fb (guys who see me from their friend's page). Only one of these am I really close to though. I don't date online, though I have entertained the idea. Mostly to pacify my friend because my friend is so sure that I'll either meet love online or through a friend set up. She doesn't believe in Astrology so I can't tell her how much this is in line with my chart LOL

I do have to either be friends first or have a sense of mutual community/friends before I will think seriously about a guy. I do have very strong first impressions and, if I am not attracted to a guy at first, 'befriending' me is the only way he'll have a shot.

My Venus is conjunct my Juno in the 11th in Aquarius. Both the Rulers of Aquarius are conjunct in Sag in the 9th house which has a ninth house cusp (probably why the 'groups' I most meet attractees through are usually in 'education' settings). Many readings say my 'love' will be a foreigner. This fits with my tastes lol Which equal: 'something/one different' lol ('But with similarities!' my mars in taurus chimes from the background..)

Okay, how about you all?

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posted January 24, 2012 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YAY! You know as an Aries you'd think I would've started this thread myself, but I waited 'til someone else did. Hmm.

Anyway, my Venus is in the 11th house ruled by Aries. It's square Saturn and Neptune in the 8th (Whole signs), doesn't make an aspect to Juno at all but is sextile my ASC in Gemini and semi-sextile my... true node in Pisces in the 10th house. It's also quintile Chiron in Cancer in the 2nd, which I suppose means something to learn about being nurtured by others.

I usually meet dates through third parties (friends), or make friends with the guys first. I think that's why I haven't had a relationship really. It takes me SOOOO long to actually call someone a friend, and that's if my interest and the rapport is kept up long enough. I'm not really one to try that hard anymore, so if I keep in touch with someone longer than a semester there's a pretty good chance I'm interested on some level. I've also done online dating with some unpleasant experiences.

I met my ex-boyfriend through a girl I befriended in one my classes. I felt the Venus square Saturn aspect with him the WORST. It was the WORST I have ever felt in a relationship and has scared me from entering another one although that fear is fading away now.

I wonder if Venus square Neptune is perhaps why my friends think I'll go great with someone only for the person to be completely not my type or beneath me (yes, I said it. Some people are beneath me... doesn't mean they don't deserve love, just not with me in particular.)

However, I can say that each dating experience has definitely refined and shaped my standards. I've evolved because of them which I suspects happens to everyone, but nevertheless.

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posted January 24, 2012 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
YAY! You know as an Aries you'd think I would've started this thread myself, but I waited 'til someone else did. Hmm.


Aries rising, baby LOL

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posted January 24, 2012 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
I think that's why I haven't had a relationship really. It takes me SOOOO long to actually call someone a friend, and that's if my interest and the rapport is kept up long enough. I'm not really one to try that hard anymore, so if I keep in touch with someone longer than a semester there's a pretty good chance I'm interested on some level.

I knoooow, me too! I have this quick meet and greet with the Aries rising but then I have a prolonged 'friending' period where I either lose interest with them or with the process. (Or my scorpmoon kicks in and is so invested that I just drop the whole thing if it isn't 'something' yet).

Also I have Cap on the 11th house cusp so I am very serious about relationships. Actually my friend that always wants to set me up is a Cap married to a Cap -mmm secure. LOL JK

EDIT: My venus is square my mars in taurus in the second -I have been feeling this lately to the point of, if I don't feel that my life is being 'luxurious' and 'indulgent' enough, I then don't want to go out and date. Like, I need to have secured my own lap of luxury at home first and also be able to go where I want and indulge in life. Not that I need everything fancy schmancy -or that I oppose that- but I want to contribute to the glamour of it all myself too.

My venus is semi-square my AC and Jupiter in Aries (1st), and also my MC in Cap. It is sextile my Eris (?!) in Aries (1st) and Saturn in Sag (9th). Square my Pluto in Scorpio (which is in my seventh house!), trine Gemi Chiron in the third and bQ BML in Cancer in the fourth.

Oh great, basically it has a tiff with every angular house!

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posted January 24, 2012 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Mars is square Taurus in... which planet? The thought of Mars squaring anything (I suppose Jupiter would be the least worrying) makes me shudder.

What are quintiles/bi-quintiles anyway? I don't know if those are hard aspects or what.

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posted January 24, 2012 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Your Mars is square Taurus in... which planet? The thought of Mars squaring anything (I suppose Jupiter would be the least worrying) makes me shudder.

What are quintiles/bi-quintiles anyway? I don't know if those are hard aspects or what.


Edited, sorry. My venus is square my mars in taurus!


"A quintile is a 72 degree aspect. It's based on '5.' If you divide 360 by 5 you get 72. '5' resonates with Mercury more than any planet; it's creative and magical. Any time you have a quintile, those two planets combine to form some very powerful magic and gifts. They are more interesting and unique than trines and sextiles, though also somewhat more subtle. If you want to find someone's gifts in a chart, don't forget the quintiles. They are very special!"

and

"I'd say treat quintiles like a trine, only more unique and special to the person. Quintile people, in general, are very creative and/or very mentally brilliant, whereas trine people, in general, are more laid-back and able to play and enjoy R & R. The negative of the quintile is being overly mental or active, while the negative of the trine is in being lazy or undisciplined or ungrounded. Since the quintile is based on '5' it makes sense to me that it should be given a wide orb. It's the most primary numerological aspect after the conjunction (1), opposition (2), trine (3), and square (4)."

From here: http://astrologyforthesoul.com/qui5tylz.html

and some interpretations:
http://cafeastrology.com/natal/quintile_biquintile.html

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posted January 24, 2012 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, you know you had me at "magical." I love anything magical! Will you post your chart for me? I want to see what else I can pick up from it!

I see I have sun and mars both quintile my psyche in Aquarius (Sun in Aries, Mars in Gemini), I wish Psyche articles were more common or easier to find, grrr!

Oh, I just read you have Capricorn on the 11th house. Yeah that makes sense why you'd be slow. Capricorn anything won't commit to something or do something until their good and ready! I have Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune in Capricorn in the 8th. Good and bad. I think it means I won't be doing any mattress dancing for a long time though, esp. considering it's squaring Sun, and Venus.

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posted January 24, 2012 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hahahaha my crush is taurus-y with a cap moon. No 'mattress dancing' for me anytime soon for me either, I'm afraid hahaha -at least not with an audience! Bahaha

Ok, my chart:


And I love Magicalness too! It's just so... 'MAGICAL'

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posted January 24, 2012 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for carl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus in 11th - Love is usually closer than I think, despite the fact that I look all over. (aka, I can search a huge portion of wherever I am and my future lover is usually almost literally right under my nose.) With that said, she is close, but culturally, distant (aka, I date many people from different countries).

I dislike online dating but do it anyway and have had many dates from it. The lovers, in the past, I have met, have occured at random times, all around, randomly.

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posted January 24, 2012 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by carl:
Venus in 11th - Love is usually closer than I think, despite the fact that I look all over. (aka, I can search a huge portion of wherever I am and my future lover is usually almost literally right under my nose.) With that said, she is close, but culturally, distant (aka, I date many people from different countries).

What about the 11th house makes that so? I get told that by Tarot readers ALL THE TIME and I'm like "Where?! WHERE?!" No one ever steps forward but it's not that I'm unattractive, I think I just intimidate the bejesus out of them.

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posted January 25, 2012 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think we can be a bit oblivious to them. I get this same reading from psychics (the few times I've gone). I think, the 11th house being Aquarius, that there is a bit of 'can't see the tree for the forest' that goes on. Aqua looks at the big picture and the ideal relationships and kindly sets aside relationships so they can have space to grow naturally -until it sets them outside of its own peripheral vision! Then it gives that 'under nose' effect. You can't see the person because they're so obviously close! And believe me, they're there! Let a romantic sector full moon happen and you'll see them come out the woodwork lol I just had that. Then it's like 'duh!' So many too! How did I not see that?! Lol

I had a psychic tell me that about this leo guy I really liked. She told me what to do, what not to do. I didn't listen. I didn't believe her that he was one of these 'sleepers' that liked me and to just give it time. I f'd it up. Not proud of it at all. It was the worst period of my life when I had lost my family and a humiliating break up where I lost all my friends too. I wigged out on poor leo! Did exactly what the lady told me not to. I later readded him and apologized. I started to learn about leos and realized that he HAD really liked me an a still did -other wise there's no way in hell he'd have talked to me again. Bringing back to the 11th house though, the other day I was recalling how he had a very aquarian way of being passionate and I pulled his chart up and he has Aqua NN. In my 11th somewheres about my venus and juno. He had his head about him more then I did, for sure! I also met him in my then friend's technology class lol! Yeah anyways I never really tried to make a relationship with him after that. He's in my fb but he got engaged to his taurus bestie (as I figured) and seems really happy.

Yeah, so if you've got sleepers peel those eyes and sniff around! Lol He the one I missed is one of the largest hearted guys I know.. And handsome as all bejeesus lol

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posted January 25, 2012 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ if I didn't know any better, I would think that you're that Leo guy you're referring to. Give yourself a pat on the back.

@topic: Venus in the 11th guys seem to get friend-zoned. (Cuz they're everyone's friend!! Sweetheart of the clique.) And when Venus is on the cusp of 11th and 12th, they get secret crushes on their friends.

So....Venus in the 11th finds love among (groups of) friends

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posted January 25, 2012 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
^ if I didn't know any better, I would think that you're that Leo guy you're referring to. Give yourself a pat on the back.

@topic: Venus in the 11th guys seem to get friend-zoned. And when Venus is on the cusp of 11th and 12th, they get secret crushes on their friends.

So....Venus in the 11th finds love among (groups of) friends



Thank you, Capriquarius!

Depending on the house system, I have the borderline venus and YES I had painful 'secret' crushes on friends my entire growing up. I've also been pushed unto the friend zone. My first disaster of a love has 11th venus in scorp and my moon and pluto were there too. Intense, transforming, dramatic, toxic, love that started as friends and ended up with an attempted friend zoning. Oh nooo. Not possible! He sleeps with alot of his many female friends but he does also get friend zoned by many too. Or did? Now he's married but since we're not in the twilight zone I doubt he's stopped cheating.

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posted January 25, 2012 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting story.

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posted January 25, 2012 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Interesting story.

True story! What are you finding most interesting?

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posted January 25, 2012 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This rings true for me:

quote:
It is most likely that you get great satisfactions out of your friends and that, in most cases, your relationship imperceptibly and gradually shifts from friendship to true love! Besides, should your tie be short-lived, it is certain that you will remain in excellent terms with your ex and that you will get back to the warm friendship which had been the foundation of your idyll with memories as a bonus...

from: http://www.astrotheme.com/files/venus_the_way_you_love_part2.php


Neptune - Your Venus would be extra Aquarian - with the double dose of Aqua influence. Do people often comment that you have a very unique look or a very original fashion sense?

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posted January 25, 2012 02:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
This rings true for me:

from: http://www.astrotheme.com/files/venus_the_way_you_love_part2.php


Neptune - Your Venus would be extra Aquarian - with the double dose of Aqua influence. Do people often comment that you have a very unique look or a very original fashion sense?


Yes, ALLWAAYS lol

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posted January 25, 2012 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your venus is a singleton ie: only planet in air elements AND apex for commmon TSquare.

Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.” http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm http://www.astrologyclub.org http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression. http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm

T Square http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_tsquare.shtml
“Two planets in opposition squared to a third. The tension typical of the opposition aspect is aggravated by additional problems introduced by the third planet. Often an obstructive feature blocking the normal flow of behaviour of the person. Person needs to develop activities represented by the "missing" arm of the T-square to achieve wholeness” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_astrology#Aspect_patterns http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html

“The t-square is exactly like the above configuration except that one of the signs is missing. Time and again this is described as trying to sit in a chair with three legs. Ironically, the individual becomes the fourth leg by acting out the traits which are missing in the chart.” http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/moreaspects2.htm

what tends to happen with T Squares is that a transit, progression or solar arc comes along and temporary converts it to a Grand Square, which does cause enormous tensions/problems internally, but the good thing is the get you up off your backside to resolve issues.

sun square saturn shows a lack of rapport with father. Sun square Uranus adds impatience and is only list of poss divorce aspects. I would discount mars opp pluto as too wide. What I tend to do on astro.com is reduce the orb ratio down to 85% to bring in line with more mainstream views....

Ruler of the Seventh House in the Eleventh House

"Your marriage partner can be very much like a friend to you or the element of friendship is very important to both of you.
You may form a business partnership with a friend or acquaintance. When it comes to committed relationships, either you or your partner may need a higher than usual degree of independence even within the framework of marriage" http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr7

this is further reinforced by venus being in Aquarius which always wants friendship, mental stimulation and freedom and independence within relationships

You can also research ruler of 2nd taurus posited in 9th on the above site.

I wonder how closely you identify with Aries rising? do have any scars on your face? get headaches? did you move house age 1ish. just looking at solar arcs. Age 6 anyone die, disappear?

Basic astrology forum, learn solar arcs http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000665.html

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posted January 25, 2012 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Saggi MC! I'm going to check out all of those links, that's great!!!

To answer some of your questions: yes, I have small scars on my forehead. I moved alot until age 7, was stable until 14 and didn't live anywhere much longer then a year after that into my adult age. I lost a sibling when I was a year and a half, my mom lost grandparents about my sixth year..
I have been a chronic migraine suffer passed down by my moon in aries mother. Jupiter in aries transit was particularly brutal on my head and I had a head injury at this time.

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posted January 25, 2012 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that no other Venus house placement attracts so effortlessly like H11 Venus does!

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posted January 27, 2012 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you again, SaggiMC! I've got alot to think about and implement

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posted January 27, 2012 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
^ if I didn't know any better, I would think that you're that Leo guy you're referring to. Give yourself a pat on the back.

@topic: Venus in the 11th guys seem to get friend-zoned. (Cuz they're everyone's friend!! Sweetheart of the clique.) And when Venus is on the cusp of 11th and 12th, they get secret crushes on their friends.

So....Venus in the 11th finds love among (groups of) friends


Is it guys or anyone? Because I get friend zoned a lot but my moon is in the 12th (in case you're like "Isn't it in the 11th too?" it can be, if I use placidus. But I like Whole Signs, so that puts my moon in the 12th.) and I think it makes me a bit subdued and too relaxed when it comes to forming relationships. I'm sure half the guys I had crushes on this semester wouldn't know.

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posted February 03, 2012 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neptune'sDaughter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hannaramaa:
Is it guys or anyone? Because I get friend zoned a lot but my moon is in the 12th (in case you're like "Isn't it in the 11th too?" it can be, if I use placidus. But I like Whole Signs, so that puts my moon in the 12th.) and I think it makes me a bit subdued and too relaxed when it comes to forming relationships. I'm sure half the guys I had crushes on this semester wouldn't know.


I have 12th house sun. It's at the tail end and is interpreted as the 1st too -but whenever I get the feeling that a friend-crush is responding to my 'sunshineyness' I inevitably scurry back to that 12th house lol

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posted February 04, 2012 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have 12th house sun. It's at the tail end and is interpreted as the 1st too -but whenever I get the feeling that a friend-crush is responding to my 'sunshineyness' I inevitably scurry back to that 12th house lol



Right? You're like "Oh it SEES me!" *scuttle scuttle scuttle*

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posted February 04, 2012 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AmethystOrnella     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Neptune'sDaughter:

Mine have been through groups, predominately school. I also have been introduced to either them or their social circles through mutual friends/acquaintences. I also have attracted romantic feelings from people online. Mostly fb (guys who see me from their friend's page).

I do have to either be friends first or have a sense of mutual community/friends before I will think seriously about a guy. I do have very strong first impressions and, if I am not attracted to a guy at first, 'befriending' me is the only way he'll have a shot.


Same situation. Virgo Venus Conj. Jupiter in the 11th House.

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Sun in Scorp - the Brooding Emotions with Sarcastic humor female Archetype
Moon in Gem - the gossipy smiley, freespirited when stimulated Archetype
Merc in Scorp - the Paranoid Sherlock obsessed with the occult Archetype
Ven in Vir - the Naggy, misunderstood, Helpful Archetype
Mars in Scop - Loves the Edward obsessive boyfriend Archetype
Asc in Scorpio - the Approach with caution Archetype

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