posted January 24, 2012 10:59 PM            

On the other hand (says my seventh house cusp in Libra), I've been through the wringer and I want someone who 'fits' well with me. I don't want craziness and drama, yelk!

I guess it comes down to the other person's motives and how they want to USE their energies too. I recently read in synastry that if one of the natives has the same hard aspect it is done away with in synastry. I agree. As long as the person who has the tough aspect isn't acting out it's bad qualities then they are used to having them and it's not big deal. I.e. I have mars in taurus opposing my pluto. I am used to the bulk of the energy though and the thought of someone else having a same mars would just be felt more in the marses conjuncting then anything else, I think, because my pluto is already so used to and protected from that energy.

But all of those possiblities are neither here nor there if we 'can' someone off of bad synastry lol!

So, if you see bad synastry do You split? What You consider 'bad' synastry?

posted January 24, 2012 11:05 PM            

Not meaning to spook anyone who has that in a relationship now, I just have my preferences.

posted January 24, 2012 11:18 PM            

When I finally do see the synastry - often the feelings/vibes/emotions I was experiencing towards the guy in question - are confirmed. It's not often that the synastry will show me something very negative that I hadn't already picked up on. If it *did* - I would go with my own intuition..
Because at the end of the day each aspect has positive manifestations as well as negative ones.

In my romantic past I've had problems with Aries Venus men (unless they also have Mars in Aries).. and men with Mars opposite Pluto (amongst others).
If I met a *new* guy and things were going great between us and I later found out that he has one of these placements - I wouldn't care. It wouldn't change my feelings towards him.

But unfortunately, it almost never happens this way. Usually I already pick up on their Aries Venus or Mars opp Pluto vibes loooooong before I see it in their chart.. I might not necessarily identify it as "Aries Venus" - (although sometimes I have).. But basically there is just something about the guy that is very upsetting for me.

posted January 25, 2012 01:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
I'd steer clear of any Algol conjunctions. Had two bad experiences with that aspect. Both Taurus Moons.

As for having a harsh aspect natally being an antidote for it in synastry - personally, I don't think it's healthy to be in a relationship where a natal square is triggered unless it's an issue that you consciously want to work on.

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What does Algol rule? Is it an asteroid?

posted January 25, 2012 01:25 AM            

Prince William has it conj his Venus, ruler of 4th, and lost his mum (his astrological twin)

Howard Sasportas had it conjunct (the afflicted) ruler of his 6th and he died of AIDS.

Edit: I think one of the Taurus Moon guys I mentioned risks being assassinated if he goes into politics. He has Pluto in the 9th (intense, transformative, and secretive politics?), and has Scorpio on his 10th...as well as a Mercury-Uranus (maybe he could get shot for his radical ideas??) conjunction on his MC, opposite his Moon-Algol conjunction. Furthermore, his NN-Mars (war, military)-Vertex conjunction is in Virgo - which links to his Mercury-Uranus conjunction at the MC. He acts laid-back but is actually quite the Plutonian underneath the Aqua rising.

posted January 25, 2012 01:42 AM            

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It spells D-I-S-A-S-T-E-R!! @ 26* Taurus.

Prince William has it conj his Venus, ruler of 4th, and lost his mum (his astrological twin)

Howard Sasportas had it conjunct (the afflicted) ruler of his 6th and he died of AIDS.

Edit: I think one of the Taurus Moon guys I mentioned risks being assassinated if he goes into politics. He has Pluto in the 9th (intense, transformative, and secretive politics?), and has Scorpio on his 10th...as well as a Mercury-Uranus (maybe he could get shot for his radical ideas??) conjunction on his MC, opposite his Moon-Algol conjunction.

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Wow! Does he want to go into politics?!

Edit: I bet he'd DEF be one of those politians with a sex scandel with Scorp on the MH! LOL

posted January 25, 2012 01:43 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
^fixed star in the sign of taurus..

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Thank you

posted January 25, 2012 01:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Hope not.

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posted January 25, 2012 01:51 AM            

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Edit: I bet he'd DEF be one of those politians with a sex scandel with Scorp on the MH! LOL

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posted January 25, 2012 02:03 AM            

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[QUOTE] Edit: I bet he'd DEF be one of those politians with a sex scandel with Scorp on the MH! LOL

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Hmm...so did Honest Abe. He musta been slick. [/QUOTE]

Bahahahahahahaha!! ...well they do always make mention of how he was such a big man

posted January 26, 2012 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Betty Boop:

But unfortunately, it almost never happens this way. Usually I already pick up on their Aries Venus or Mars opp Pluto vibes loooooong before I see it in their chart.. I might not necessarily identify it as "Aries Venus" - (although sometimes I have).. But basically there is just something about the guy that is very upsetting for me.

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Oh, I'm with you there. For me, I've only experienced Aries Venus twice. Both times, they were violent with / betrayed me. In the case of the first, his mistakenly thought I had information I -didn't- have, given that I had -also- mistakenly gave the impression I -did-. It was a mess. Finally, he ended up interrogating me for 2 hours in a room separate from where our mutual friend had the music turned up VERY loudly in her bedroom to express her extreme jealousy for the fact that he was -soo- clearly into -me-, and not her. -eyeroll-

He knew everything to do, although, that might've been his Venus quindecile my Sun/Pluto exactly. It's like he'd catalogued ALL of my worst fears, and played each one out before me with whatever he had improvised, or available. His Mars is septile, and Mercury also quindecile my Moon, too. I have no idea if that helped this easy, telepathic connection between us. We had an EXTREMELY intense, obsessive 'relationship' for over a decade with plenty of times in which I broke it off completely (the first time being after THAT).

The fact I actually DID get involved with another man with frickin' Venus in Aries is probably a testament to somewhere my being an astrochist. To this day, they're the only men who have been -physically- violent with me - and the circumstances were ENTIRELY different. They were both sadists - not necessarily in the clinical / sexual sense; my Taurus/Aries-Venus exhibited it in the interrogative technique, (which may just be what he learnt - that I don't know, and we don't talk about Those Days), and my Pisces/Aries-Venus coerced me into, or flat out raped me a handful of times over the course of the relationship. (I learnt how to anticipate and extricate myself from the situation before it could continue, and then FINALLY found the means to just LEAVE).

I'm still dealing with that.

But, God, what is it with that Venus placement? Or is it JUST that Venus quindecile (or opposition, in my ex's case) my Sun/Pluto which is BAD, BAD news? I'm willing to believe that could be it. It was a tight opp with him, too.

We had a close Venus (mine) conjunct Mars, too, which had really been among the first time I'd experienced that one. I think I was conditioned to avoid it after that! Shame.

Let me tell you; there's an extra special circle of hell - or there should be - for a man that rapes you that also forces you to -enjoy- it. Gives you no choice, in other words. Creates circumstances in which your brain is given no other choice except to encode pleasure with fear, terror, and helplessness.

THAT's another facet I'm STILL getting through. In therapy, fortunately. It made me a stronger therapist myself, though.

I began having the flashbacks of not only my childhood sex abuse by an older relative - not immediate, thank God - which I already knew - which led INTO memories of my ex which I had COMPLETELY repressed for my own sanity and continued functionality - shortly after I married my husband, that I became a TOTAL basketcase, had to stop practising, went into therapy myself, and am slowly, but surely, recovering. I feel I may return to my own practise, eventually, or I'll just keep doing what I'm doing - which is being a creative professional - writing, directing, producing and performing - as it IS my greatest passion, and has ALWAYS been.

I used to be so dishonest with everybody, too. Not intentionally. I just didn't express it all. I hid from the truth because SO much of it in my life HURT, SO uncommonly badly. It's like the Depeche Mode, 'Wrong'.

' ... I was born in the wrong house, of the wrong sign, and the wrong ascendancy ... '

(Which is now going to make an AMAZING trailer for my new TV series.)

I've had to take a lot of 'Wrong' in my life and transmute it into something bigger, better and stronger. I'm a crisis alchaemist. Guess that's fitting for Sun-Pluto and a metric eff-tonne of Scorpio, no?

My twin soul has inadvertently helped me engage in this 'truth renaissance'. Ever since he finally cleared his own deception after 7 years which prevented me from ever relating to him as a whole person, there's been this weird after-effect of my being ridiculously honest. I mean, I just don't sugarcoat it for ANYBODY. I have to consciously STOP myself and think, 'Am I going to seriously sh*t in this person's cornflakes if I tell them the truth?'

But HE, I can tell ANYTHING to. Like my husband. (It's why I'd married my husband. I won't wax melodramatic about how I wish I still HAD that honesty with my husband here and now, though. But I do lament it.)

It's as if the effect of our relationship of so many years being built upon the most peculiar kind of no-holds-barred honesty, that now we're complete people and relating to each other AS those complete people, I'm somehow 'complete' enough in the sense to have the confidence to FULLY be myself, and unapologetic for it, and I just can't lie to people for the sake of anything - feelings, politics, circumstances -- whatever.

Man, people are going to think my juvenile Asperger's is back!

This was way too long.

What the hell were we talking about? -laugh- my Scorpio Moon/Merc/Mars tersely asks while needling Uranus to go on some grand adventure because she's tired of sitting in the 3H on such a GLORIOUS day - but he's enjoying the brief solitude and gives a resounding, 'NO!'.

Oh. Aries Venus. Yeah, they can be real m*f'ers, Betty.

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Stargazing in Hollyweird,

posted January 26, 2012 06:03 PM            

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We had a close Venus (mine) conjunct Mars, too, which had really been among the first time I'd experienced that one. I think I was conditioned to avoid it after that! Shame.

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I've said it before, Venus conjunct Mars is not a romantic aspect. Great for sex, but due to the violent nature of Mars, all delicate interactions tends to head south.

My bff dated/lived with a Pisces with whom she shared a Venus/Mars conjunction. In essence he raped her, but she wanted a relationship with him so it was filed under another category. Ultimately she had to run away from him. He has Venus in Pisces.

posted January 26, 2012 06:54 PM            

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I've said it before, Venus conjunct Mars is not a romantic aspect. Great for sex, but due to the violent nature of Mars, all delicate interactions tends to head south.

My bff dated/lived with a Pisces with whom she shared a Venus/Mars conjunction. In essence he raped her, but she wanted a relationship with him so it was filed under another category. Ultimately she had to run away from him. He has Venus in Pisces.

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-jaw drop- Christ, do they ALL do that? Wait -- do I know you? No, nevermind. Mine had Aries Venus.

Filed under another category. Damn, that's a way to put it. In my case, 'Nonexistence', as my brain chose to repress everything.

Man, what are the odds? Seriously?

For a minute, I wondered which of MY closest friends I'd somehow forgotten about that you could be. OR, you could be best friends with the woman he's with now; although, I do hope that all is as well as it seemed to be going last time the stupid 'Do You Know This Person?' thing came up on Facebook ... and I clicked it.

Jeeeez, Louiiiiise.

How is your BFF dealing? Just ... one day at a friggin' time?

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Karma's a b*tch.

posted January 26, 2012 07:07 PM            

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How many of you have killed a relationship/attraction off of 'bad' synastry?

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I have.

If I form an instant attraction with someone I'll play along even with a sign or aspect I don't like. But the moment we hit speed bump I'll plan my exit & kill the romantic. It will be a cool and detached friendship from there on.

Back in 2007 I had a no Aries, no Aquarius policy - was also weary of the lunar Scorpio. Then I met a darling on August 4th. We had a blast, and at the end of the encounter I asked - What's your sign? Aquarius, emerged. Lie!! This person was/is an Aries with Moon in Scorpio, Venus in Pisces, Mars in Aries.

Armed with astro knowledge I knew I won't be investing emotionally in this person. I called a couple days later to meetup and was told they're outta town. "aha" I knew it. Right then I decided I won't be calling that number again. So I texted - text #1 got a one word answer and so did text #2. There was no 3rd because that number was deleted from my phone. I was outraged. Then something weird started happening - the Aqua-Aries would appear at my hangout spot on the nights I was there. Intense, broody looks were fired in my direction from across the way. Whatever. I'm weary of Aquas in a romantic scenario, so I frosted over.

Eventually Aqua-Aries got he hint and started ignoring me in a hurt/wounded animal sorta way.

posted January 26, 2012 07:28 PM            

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How is your BFF dealing? Just ... one day at a friggin' time?

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She's in a better place. Found somebody else, it's been a few months and I think she's still smarting from the "breakup/runaway"