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Libreo
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posted January 24, 2012 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this has been asked before, but just wondering if anyone else has the same issue.

I have -
ASC - Pisces
Sun - Libra
Moon - Leo
Mercury - Scorp
Venus - Sag
Mars - Taurus
I can basically identify with all of these but I feel zero Libra! I can't identify with my Libra sun at all, apart from indecisiveness when shopping. How strong is your sun really?

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posted January 24, 2012 11:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
does it have few aspects? i think sun in libra can easily be overpowered by other placements. ima sun in 7th a libra house.

my sun in taurus isn't that strong i believe. but my venus in taurus is the strongest planet in my chart so i seem very taurus.

also check out astro123..

i like that they have strength for the ascendant too, which is apparently my strongest according to them even including the planets.

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posted January 24, 2012 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok teach me. I'm looking at my chart, how can I tell what aspects it has?

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posted January 24, 2012 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I seem to feel is my ASC which I don't particularly like, followed by my moon.

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posted January 24, 2012 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=vbmfilenKmkcJ-u1317013676&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=2&btyp=2&mth=gw&sday=1&smon=10&syr=2011&hsy=-1&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&ast=

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posted January 25, 2012 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm.. looks pretty aspected. it's the table below ur chart. sun is first column..

just search for a cheat sheet for what the symbols mean.

sun sextile moon
sun opposite mars
sun square jupiter
sun trine saturn
sun conj uranus

maybe someone more knowledgeable can detect as to why u only feel asc/moon and not the sun.. it looks to me like it's ur most dominant planet. libra too actually as the most dominant sign. ruler of asc neptune is on the mc too. moon is conjunct the descendant. also mars singleton only planet in earth.

Planet: Position Aspects Total Rank Percent
Sun: 42.5 ( 4) + 27.3 ( 3) = 69.8 ( 1) / 11.2%
Moon: 35.0 ( 8) + 24.9 ( 5) = 59.9 ( 6) / 9.6%
Mercury: 42.5 ( 5) + 11.1 ( 9) = 53.6 ( 8) / 8.6%
Venus: 58.5 ( 1) + 2.5 (10) = 61.0 ( 5) / 9.8%
Mars: 13.5 (11) + 29.3 ( 1) = 42.8 (10) / 6.8%
Jupiter: 40.0 ( 6) + 27.3 ( 4) = 67.3 ( 4) / 10.8%
Saturn: 37.0 ( 7) + 17.0 ( 7) = 54.0 ( 7) / 8.6%
Uranus: 25.0 ( 9) + 27.5 ( 2) = 52.5 ( 9) / 8.4%
Neptune: 55.0 ( 2) + 12.7 ( 8) = 67.7 ( 3) / 10.8%
Pluto: 50.0 ( 3) + 17.8 ( 6) = 67.8 ( 2) / 10.8%
Chiron: 7.0 (12) + 0.0 (11) = 7.0 (12) / 1.1%
Node: 22.0 (10) + 0.0 (12) = 22.0 (11) / 3.5%
Total: 428.0 + 197.4 = 625.4 / 100.0%

Sign: Power Rank Percent - Element Power Percent
Aries: 14.5 (12) / 2.3% - Fire: 140.2 / 22.4%
Taurus: 31.4 ( 9) / 5.0% - Earth: 109.3 / 17.5%
Gemini: 23.4 (10) / 3.7% - Air: 190.6 / 30.5%
Cancer: 63.1 ( 5) / 10.1% - Water: 185.4 / 29.6%
Leo: 43.6 ( 7) / 7.0%
Virgo: 23.2 (11) / 3.7% - Mode Power Percent
Libra: 94.5 ( 1) / 15.1% - Cardinal: 226.7 / 36.2%
Scorpio: 88.1 ( 2) / 14.1% - Fixed: 235.9 / 37.7%
Sagittarius: 82.0 ( 3) / 13.1% - Mutuable: 162.8 / 26.0%
Capricorn: 54.6 ( 6) / 8.7%
Aquarius: 72.7 ( 4) / 11.6%
Pisces: 34.2 ( 8) / 5.5%
Total: 625.4 / 100.0%

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posted January 25, 2012 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I so wish I could understand all of this. And thankyou Sand.... I don't know why I don't feel Libran either. I feel so much like a Pisces.

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posted January 25, 2012 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^just get the top 3 in percent and those are your dominants according to pullen..

you do have neptune on an angle in house 10. and you could be neptune dominant. it's in a 3 way tie in 2nd place with pluto/jupiter..

what about scorpio? or sag? do you feel those?

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posted January 25, 2012 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I can certainly feel the Sag. People see the Sag too but deep deep inside I feel Pisces, easily hurt, over sensitive. But yeah I crack a lot of jokes and laugh a lot too. Hence why I thought I felt more Leo. Actually youv'e just pointed out dominant Fire & Water signs in my chart, which is what Iv'e been feeling. Maybe these are not Pisces & Leo but in fact Sag and Scorpio.

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posted January 25, 2012 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm...strange, considering the Sun is your strongest planet and Libra is your dominant sign...

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posted January 25, 2012 02:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sand:
^just get the top 3 in percent and those are your dominants according to pullen..

you do have neptune on an angle in house 10. and you could be neptune dominant. it's in a 3 way tie in 2nd place with pluto/jupiter..

what about scorpio? or sag? do you feel those?



Excuse my ignorance but does this mean that Sagittarius and Scorpio are STRONGER in my chart, than my Leo moon and Pisces ASC?

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posted January 25, 2012 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Libreo:
Excuse my ignorance but does this mean that Sagittarius and Scorpio are STRONGER in my chart, than my Leo moon and Pisces ASC?


I hope you do not feel as though I am intruding, but your three strongest signs, according to the program sand used, are Libra, Scorpio, and Sagittarius.

Your strongest planets are the Sun, Jupiter, Neptune, and Pluto.

Hope this helps, some how, some way!

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posted January 25, 2012 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Redscorp, much appreciated. :-)

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posted January 25, 2012 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^i think you are scorpy becoz of the planets in house 8 and only merc in scorpio. i never liked that about pullen tho it is an important aspect as well.

sag/scorp according to pullen are stronger in your chart than pisces/leo but i think the big three ac, sun, moon are strong influences as well. so all 4 of them should be pretty important in relation to your chart.

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posted January 25, 2012 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, that does explain some things. Thanks so much for helping me sand :-)

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posted January 25, 2012 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Libreo:
Ok teach me. I'm looking at my chart, how can I tell what aspects it has?

Pisces Asc thread. http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40284
Pisces Asc (along with gemini) is probably one of the most difficult in childhood. With pisces they are sooo impressionable, easily manipulated and make lots of sacrifices trying to please family to much

When an outer planet like Uranus is conj or in hard aspect to Sun it will seriously overshadow how the sun will express...

on top of this you have mars retrograde (going backwards) AND a singleton

you also have two Yods, one with neptune as apex and the other with saturn as apex..

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posted January 25, 2012 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Info on Yod’s http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TheYod15.5.htm http://asphodelea.com/yods.html http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_yod.shtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yod_(astrology) http://realastrologers.com/?p=331 http://medicalastrologybyeileennauma...t-and-yod.html http://thezodiac.com/yod.htm http://medicalastrologybyeileennauman.blogspot.com/2009/03/inconjunct-aspect-and-yod.html http://aliceportman.com/?p=452

actually you have 3yods as mars is apex for another yod...

You will find that you will *always* be searching for answers to the meaning of life...

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

If someone has the ‘generational Pluto sextile neptune’ (born after 1940) then there is always a possibility of creating a temporary Yod with quicker moving planets, progressions, solar arcs even and difficult situations where you could be forced into making decisions and worrying that you have made the wrong one. Saturn, Uranus are generational to and unless these two fall in first quadrant (the most personal) the may not even be felt if they create a temporary Yod…this could be *transformation through suffering* type aspect

Thread by R4ven on Astrologyweekly.com on Yods

quote:

Some of what you may feel/experience are:
• things which happen out of the blue, and these things affect us, but are not created by us.
• being faced with impossible choices, but where we are forced into choose something
• a feeling of having been wronged in some way, and that we `don't deserve this' to be happening to us.
• feeling like we're on a continual search for something in our lives, although we don't know what this `something' is.
• well-made plans being interrupted, or even hijacked totally
• difficulty in coping within formal education systems - eg. as in being given limited time frames in which to complete tasks (this can create high stress levels in anyone with a yod)
• the yod itself does not provide any clear direction in life.
• those with unaspected planets will have difficulty in using it effectively when put under pressure.
• walking a different path, feeling `different' from others can lead to deep feelings of insecurity, and perhaps even believing themselves to have been `born into the wrong family'. (This one freaked me out a bit, since I spent much of my childhood believing this...)
• with an unaspected planet, in childhood the over-developed effects of the planet may be suppressed in some way by parents. (eg. my brother has an unaspected `duet' between Mars and Jupiter. As a child he `bounced off the walls' and was a real handful. My mother took him to the Dr and he was put on some kind of sedative to calm him down. Eventually he became a successful athlete, and so this became a channel for his excessive energy.)
• unconsciously developing towards future activities - perhaps over a period of years - without being aware of this.
• a sense that one is a Spiritual Warrior, as you find that what seems to satisfy others in life in no way is satisfactory for you - that you are searching for `something more'.
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15271&highlight=yods

if you want me to go into further details about these yods just say so....

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posted January 25, 2012 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars retrograde has problems 'taking actions'

Retrograde planets http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22923 http://astrology.findyourfate.com/astrology-retrograde.htm http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/retrogradeplanets.htm http://www.north-node.com/astrology-tutorials/retrogrades http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5796&postcount=8 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5861&postcount=10
Pluto retrograde in scorpio above http://karma.astrology.com/pastlife.html

Mars Retrograde
* reconsiders before expressing anger
* finds competitive situations hard to handle
* tends to repress and so ....
* can become depressed

Singleton planets
“If a planet happens to be the only one in an element, quality, or house type, that planet is a Singleton and it can funnel all of the “energy” of the horoscope. This planet is often the most important one in the horoscope. In other words, if you just interpret the position of this one planet by sign, house, and aspect, you will get to the “heart of the horoscope”. The effect is the same as if that planet were the only one on one side of the chart.” http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/13.0Singletons.htm http://www.astrologyclub.org http://en.mimi.hu/astrology/singleton.html http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-2334.html
(There is a book out by Shirley Lyons Meier, "Elemental Voids, More than Meets the Eye", which gives a good discussion of missing elements.) The Inferior Function can be a source of great motivation and creative expression. http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/intro/singleton_intro.htm

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posted January 25, 2012 08:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Natal chart aspects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planets_in_astrology http://www.astrologyweekly.com/learn-astrology/astrology-glyphs.php http://www.skyscript.co.uk/sunaspects.html http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/planetsaspectsastrology.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_aspect http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectsreference.htm http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspectssun.htm http://astrologynotes.org/wiki/Sun_aspects http://www.astrologyindepth.com/Special:Prefixindex/category: http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm http://www.theastrologicalaspects.com/ http://www.strangehouse.com/natal-aspects/index.php

planets in houses http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/planetsinhouses.php
Houses/signs are like the backdrop of a stage/theatre, planets in houses behave like actors on a stage, the *aspects* show how these planets/actor behave in a house

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posted January 25, 2012 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It should be the big, hot ball of plasma >_>

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posted January 25, 2012 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saggimc thankyou, I must admit I don't really understand much of what you said, lol, I'm a beginner. But I did notice something about my Pisces ASC, (I did read the other thread about Pisces ASC having a hard life) are you saying that it overshadows my Libran sun? And can you explain tome more about my singleton planet, where is it and what is it? You don't have to go right into detail but just talk to me like I'm 2! Can you see why I don't feel very Libran?

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posted January 25, 2012 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And the bit about feeling like I was born into the wrong family, definately. They are all over achievers and I'm sure they look down at me as I don't really have any direction in my life. Plus theyr'e all happily paired up and I can't seem to hold down a relationship, either out of boredom or lack of compatibility or whatever.

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posted January 25, 2012 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 25, 2012 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was being silly.
The Sun, our star.

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posted January 25, 2012 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Libreo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When an outer planet like Uranus is conj or in hard aspect to Sun it will seriously overshadow how the sun will express...

Can you explain to me how it will cause my Sun to express? I'm sorry I know I'm asking a lot here. Thankyou.

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