posted January 25, 2012 07:02 AM            

I put people up on pedestal Moon in pisces but also see clearly people's defects bc of sun and mercury in virgo.

But I was reflecting today and came to the conclusion that when I put someone in a pedestal for a night or 5 minutes or days is bc I am seeing their higher self. I think neptunian people bc they are so sensitive and is the planet/sign that is closest access to other dimensions that when they see someone they see that person's higherself and fall for that version and stick around bc of that version.

posted January 25, 2012 07:25 AM            

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when I put someone in a pedestal for a night or 5 minutes
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posted January 25, 2012 07:42 AM            

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But I was reflecting today and came to the conclusion that when I put someone in a pedestal for a night or 5 minutes or days is bc I am seeing their higher self. I think neptunian people bc they are so sensitive and is the planet/sign that is closest access to other dimensions that when they see someone they see that person's higherself and fall for that version and stick around bc of that version.

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Uh,i know very well what you mean, i have the same "problem" all the time... and in a way it really is a problem, because i always see the best side of people, but most of the times they use this to their own advantage or simply think that im crazy. Or they are scared of me (especially men).

posted January 25, 2012 12:07 PM            

By the way, neptune is starting its transit throuhg my first house soon... What it could mean? I mean the transit of you ruler in the first house?

posted January 25, 2012 02:42 PM            

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Originally posted by amelia28:
My strongest planet is Neptune. I have moon in pisces conjunct IC and two tsquares that square to Neptune in my first. Progressed Neptune in the 3rd.

I put people up on pedestal Moon in pisces but also see clearly people's defects bc of sun and mercury in virgo.

But I was reflecting today and came to the conclusion that when I put someone in a pedestal for a night or 5 minutes or days is bc I am seeing their higher self. I think neptunian people bc they are so sensitive and is the planet/sign that is closest access to other dimensions that when they see someone they see that person's higherself and fall for that version and stick around bc of that version.

Now lets talk about self fulfilling prophecy if you are with someone that believes that you can be better will raise your vibrational level and increase your self love which then leads to healing and you actually becoming a better person and closer to your higher self.

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I think there is some truth to this, actually. I do think, however, with neptune involved a person's 'higher self' can be used interchangeably with an 'idealised' self. As a result, the person who is recognizing the other person's higher self or potential energy might get dragged (or even drugged) through all sorts of chaos...hoping to 'raise' the vibration, theirs gets warped in the process. And I feel this can be intentional or unconscious. This happens with empaths and narcissists, for example.

posted January 25, 2012 03:21 PM            

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Originally posted by FireWire:
And I feel this can be intentional or unconscious. This happens with empaths and narcissists, for example.

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This reminded me of one of the most beautiful things anyone has ever said to me. My ex husband is a narcissist. He once texted that he loved me (we were broken up and friends) and I jokingly asked what was the matter with him. And he said "it's because you love me unconditionally. And no one has ever done that for me. Not even myself."
It was such a beautiful thing to say and I know that he meant it.

...and then his grandiose false self took over once again, as always; the end

posted January 25, 2012 04:45 PM            

She very much is prone to seeing only the best in others, and the "higher self" in another. She has since learned the hard way and does not repeat the mistake. However, in the past she would easily become enamored with any sort of muse or spiritual leader to which she looked up to. Not addressing any of their flaws and casting them to the side. Which is interestingly because she's extremely psychic, and does not miss a beat usually. However, it seems to only work if she is from an objective point of view.

She's had to learn (and is still learning) that she can rely on just herself to better herself. She has way more talent then she knows or admits, and as such sees others constantly as above her.

posted January 26, 2012 04:14 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
[QUOTE]when I put someone in a pedestal for a night or 5 minutes
or days is bc I am seeing their higher self

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Yes I am sure specially given the fact that I always am aware of everyone's defects even when I am putting them up in a pedestal is just in that moment I choose to focus on their best. I think I tried to express that in the thread opening.

posted January 26, 2012 04:21 AM            

all I am saying is that it depends on the rest of someone's chart I guess whether neptune will be a danger to themselves or not. I have scorpio and virgo in me so I am very good at reading people objectively but also am very neptunian so choose to FOCUS on the potential of people. I let people know what bothers them and they let me know what bothers them of me too..that is part of how people grow but I try to focus on potential bc that is what I think leads to people believing in themselves and that they can be better and that is neptunes gift I feel.

posted January 26, 2012 04:30 AM            

Actually, I think I'm super critical of everyone.

posted January 26, 2012 04:38 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I have sun opposite neptune. I don't really think I put other people in a pedestal at all :/

Actually, I think I'm super critical of everyone.

BTW if anyone hasn't read Aspects in Astrology by Sue Tomkins it is mind-blowing, and the description for this aspect is so accurate too about the events that happened in our lives as a child (as with every other aspect it describes). Spooky!

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wouldn't the opposition mean that you have a hard time blending the two energies so you go from one extreme to the other unless you have a nice mediator point. Does your sun/neptune midpoint form aspects to other planets in your chart?
http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/midpoints/index.php

I feel that when I see a defect is not been critical is more like making an assessment of things that need to be overcome and worked on by myself or the other person. Is not an attack or personal thing is more like so you can be happier and so everyone can be happier or so we can coexist or progress.

Edit to add: come to think of it I can relate to going to one extreme to another I think that is why at the end I have a balanced view of people and then decide to focus on positive and help them with negative. My moon in pisces opposing sun in virgo is perhaps similar to sun opposite neptune in some ways.

posted January 26, 2012 05:02 AM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
I have sun opposite neptune. I don't really think I put other people in a pedestal at all :/

Actually, I think I'm super critical of everyone.

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You are like me you put up people in pedestal but simultaneously are aware of their defects just choose to love them anyways. Well this is the impression I have gotten from you, is actually how you and I are similar and makes us romantics but we have keen mind simultaneously and are not fooled and know what is up.

But you made me brainstorm bc neptune is idealistic like crazy which would make someone super picky and so is virgo which explains why they are in the same axis. The difference is that neptune sees the higher self before defects and virgo sees the defects and then the potential if they don't get stuck in the defects. Virgos are about improvement and so is pisces they just perhaps go about it differently but if both energies work together you get a perfect blend of the best both signs have to offer.

posted January 27, 2012 04:26 AM            

Amelia, I know where you're coming from.
Personally I believe a prominent Neptune tends to obscure things.
Don't worry if others don't see you for who you are. The few who do are your friends anyway.
Like you, I have a prominent Neptune (10th house, tight conj to my MC, conj to my Sun and Merc, opposite my Moon) and one of my main problems is seeing the positives in people even when they themselves see none. Yes, this makes me a great mentor/teacher etc. but it puts me in a rather precarious position when it comes to personal relationships because I seem to relate to an idealized form of the Other rather than the real person. I know you know what I mean. I do see the person's character; I see right through them (Pluto in the 8th trining my Moon and a host of other aspects reinforcing the same). BUT I choose to interact with their Higher Self even when they are not even aware they have one. LOL
Growing up and a number of painful lessons have moderated this tendency in my personal relationships. But it's still there.

posted January 27, 2012 05:49 AM            

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Originally posted by anongrl10:

Amelia, I know where you're coming from.
Personally I believe a prominent Neptune tends to obscure things.
Don't worry if others don't see you for who you are. The few who do are your friends anyway.
Like you, I have a prominent Neptune (10th house, tight conj to my MC, conj to my Sun and Merc, opposite my Moon) and one of my main problems is seeing the positives in people even when they themselves see none. Yes, this makes me a great mentor/teacher etc. but it puts me in a rather precarious position when it comes to personal relationships because I seem to relate to an idealized form of the Other rather than the real person. I know you know what I mean. I do see the person's character; I see right through them (Pluto in the 8th trining my Moon and a host of other aspects reinforcing the same). BUT I choose to interact with their Higher Self even when they are not even aware they have one. LOL
Growing up and a number of painful lessons have moderated this tendency in my personal relationships. But it's still there.

hugs,
Anongrl10

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