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TheAriesPoint
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From: Brooklyn, NY, USA
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posted January 27, 2012 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheAriesPoint     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*sigh* normally i wouldn't join a forum, but i have been an avid astrology fan for over 5 years. as of the past year, i admit i have been slacking on "keeping track" of what's going on. i also have a natural skepticism toward it, despite an alluring curiosity for it. i know astrology is just one theory (among many of life's ideologies), so perhaps someone can clue me in IF perhaps this can have something to do with my situation.

i have had saturn transit my seventh house for the last 5 years. yes, you read that correctly... 5 years. my 7th and 1st house are HUGE. they span about 2 and half signs each. needless to say, once saturn was in the shadow of the 7th, an intense anxiety to "get into a relationship" ensued. before that i hardly considered so much as dating. and i was already approaching 20. late bloomer, but saturn propelled me into a whirlwind of relationships, dalliances, and suitors. something i did not expect from the great "limiter."

as the time rolled on and i hopped from lover to lover in my sagitarrian venusian-ness, my relationships began developing in maturity and complexity. some people remained casual partners, others blossomed into elongated, intense affairs. my last relationship was my BEST, most fulfilling and longest (a year a half... which to some may not be long at all). i hardly remained single in those 5 years (it seemed impossible) despite an innate love for being single. and as rare and difficult as it is for me to fall in love truly, i was quite happy to realize i was in a partnership of equality and true love (for the most part, since such abstract things can't really be measured). but i do admit flaws and faults on my behalf... some strange insistence upon freedom and defiant emotional behavior that has ravaged many a men has once again started to reel itself into this relationship, which i was certain was NOT doomed to conflict. this relationship seemed durable, comfortable, stable and he was quite complimentary to me.

we've had issues and spoke of taking a break for a while, but then, when it actually happened, it blew up. it was nothing i expected considering how strong our bond was. now i have not heard from him in 2 weeks, and it seems illogical that we would not even be on speaking terms. he's told people he misses me and would call, but never did... and now i wonder if he's truly moved on so quickly.

this happened RIGHT as saturn left my 7th and entered my 8th. understandably, on the 7th of february it will retrograde back into my 7th house for a while... until it returns no more. i wonder if this "end" of saturn's long and brutal cycle through my 7th house has ended all romantic relationships for me altogether since i hadn't mastered saturn's lessons. i feel pretty doomed, as if not having fulfilled my karmic and dharmic duties of this house during its transit will mean endless loneliness. i know i'm probably just being negative (capricorn, hellooooo...) because of the break-up, but in any case i wonder if this is at all possible... that this end of a cycle means i have unfulfilled something and from now on things will not be so "abundant" in my love life. perhaps it's just a personal choice i'm making, i don't know. in any case, i feel i have learned a valuable lesson from this breakup and i feel reformed in ways that are refreshing and sobering, but at what price? and has this lesson come a little late? there's more to this story i am keeping hidden... meh. i have always had a problem with philandering, but in most cases i never cared and was never caught... most men i dated i did not love... but was only at best infatuated with for a time. although the fight/breakup was not at all about that, i have a suspicious something of that sort came up and troubled him. was saturn attempting to teach me to curb my wild and lascivious ways? and in not doing so, has it led to this inevitable disaster?

during my saturn transit in my 7th, i have never felt quite certain if i was supposed to "curtail" myself in some way or explode with unapologetic self-expression (something i felt is a more life-long mission of mine beyond some transient transit). and the two seemed highly in conflict.

this gentleman is a taurus, and i know he can be quite stubborn and proud (leo ascendant) from my time being with him. i hope perhaps it is just his obstinate side that is causing this. after all, he always expressed a desire to keep me in his life in some way even after a break up. originally, i was opposed to this, but a friendship (something he proposed post-breakup) doesn't offend me anymore, even if i now feel a great desire to win him over (in due time). in any case, saturn taught me something very important here. in the meantime, my typical desire to just move forward and find new distractions is completely missing.

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SaggiMC
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posted January 27, 2012 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe you should consider changing house systems as by the sound of T Saturn has been in your 8th house for a while...

T Saturn 8th house thread http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20030&highlight=saturn

"Significant relationships with others are the focus when Saturn transits the seventh house. Saturn motivates us to do "spring cleaning" in the areas of life he touches, and one-to-one relationships will need to be considered and understood during this transit. Initially, as is usually the case with Saturn transits, we might feel frustrated and we might seem withdrawn. This is a time when we need to define, understand, and crystallize our significant relationships with others. If you already have a partner, this is a time when any issues surrounding compromise, flexibility, and the ability to give your heart to your partner will surface. Initial frustration can take the form of feeling criticized and "examined" in this area of life. By the end of the transit, however, you will have learned much about commitment and compromise. Single natives will feel the initial pressures of Saturn transiting the seventh house as well. A feeling of loneliness is possible in either situation (whether you have a significant partnership or not), but instead of an issue of re-committing, the single native will think about commitment in general. If involved in a casual love relationship, when Saturn transits the seventh, a pressure emerges concerning the need for evaluating one's commitments. Often this transit corresponds with an urge (or pressure) to make a commitment or a re-commitment. Healthy partnerships can be the outcome of this partnership, whether they are new ones or strengthened existing partnerships. Saturn always brings with him a fair measure of reality and objectivity, so that whatever relationships the native has or wants will be defined and re-defined. Relationships are seen now as serious. Partners are no longer simply fun or mirrors of our ego. Responsibilities to partners, the need to compromise, and the realities of the needs of others, become clear. We are forced to begin seeing others as individuals, and to improve the manner in which we relate to and with others. Depending on the person's age and life circumstances, "significant partnerships" can mean partnerships with loved ones, business partnerships, and even deep friendships. For example, when Saturn transited my seventh house when I was a young teenager, I began to view my casual friendships as superficial and unsatisfying and eventually developed a deep friendship with a girl that was to last some time. Essentially, quantity (in the relationship department) was replaced with quality, and this process involved time, soul-searching, frustration, and eventual fulfillment." http://www.cafeastrology.com/saturntransitinghouses.html

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TheAriesPoint
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posted January 27, 2012 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheAriesPoint     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do you mean perhaps trying an equal house system? i definitely feel the 8th house transit and have been for months. my sex life has been pestering me. i understand the 8th house is beyond sex, but i feel psychosexual concerns bubbling up. in any case, saturn was in my 7th house, so it's still something to consider. whether or not it has finished transiting is arguable. i prefer using the system i use since its more specific to time and location... i was born WAY up north in the morning, so there's a major disparity in the houses, and i DO think that's somthing not be overlooked, personally. i don't think the 8th house has much to do with my relationship matters, but if there's something else that someone can clue me in on, that would be great.

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Faith
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posted January 27, 2012 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi AriesPoint,

Any more info about you and your man? Like, maybe it just wasn't meant to be with THIS guy? I think sometimes, in synastry, there is something like an "expiration date" for the relationship. For instance, my Venus in Sag conjuncts a lot of Neptunes in Sag (my whole generation.)

From my reading, I understand it is only a matter of time before the Neptune person just fades away from the Venus person, when they are conjunct. And that was my experience, before I married outside of my generation.

Best wishes,
Faith

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