posted January 27, 2012 07:15 PM            

1.) Attracting Virgo Moons
2.) Moons falling in my 12th house

Natally, my 12th house is ruled by Virgo and my moon is in the 3rd house.

I am curious to know the moon's role in...attraction, perhaps specifically 'emotional attraction if that makes--just generally speaking? Does it play a role in intense emotional involvements, and if so, what is that role?

1.) So, I'm a sag moon and I've noticed I attract LOTS of Virgo moons. Socially, romantically, professionally, bizarrely, they are just everywhere. Fascinating people, but I still don't understand how or why, and what draws them to me. And they always seem to say later on, they were "waiting for me" to initiate something and they were unsure of how I see them. I'm just like, huh?

With all of these interactions, there is a certain amount of emotional intensity that is sometimes just really...bizarre, regardless of where they fall in my houses (haha, that sounds funny). Sometimes they open up to me...I mean, in very dramatic ways. Which I actually enjoy, believe it or not. Very complex and interesting people. Thoughts on that?

2) Regardless of what sign a person's moon is in, I've noticed that when someone's moon falls in my 12th house, it is THE most intense thing ever. I feel like, when they look at me I see straight through their soul. It is rarely reciprocated, but all of their feelings, thoughts and desires just float in my consciousness, and I become very protective. Which is good--when there are good feelings, thoughts and desires. When they are bad, it is bad.

With that placement, I feel like I generally can read 'exactly' what they are feeling. I just get how they feel, and just...I don't know...understand them. They also feel like they know me, and then they become frustrated when they are wrong. Typically, with these people, there is a period of distance (or separation) and then they always realize all of these things after the fact and become very nostalgic about how I made them feel, how they felt...'seen through' and could just be themselves. Which, it is good to know someone feels comfortable around you, I suppose. Granted, I try to treat everyone this way. 12th house moon interactions, with me, become VERY intense emotionally and have a HUGE spiritual component or relation to them that is very present. The moon person actually seems to do a lot of the 'pouring' so to speak, and I catch it in the reservoir of my consciousness...or subconscious if that makes sense.

How does this happen so frequently? My 'most' intense interactions always have a 12th house moon component, and it is like...their soul is just there and I am seeing straight through it. Some are comfortable others aren't.

Idk. Lol.

posted January 28, 2012 07:42 AM            

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Originally posted by birdy:
I think this topic hasn't been answered yet because it's exhausting to explain...lol My S.O. has his moon in my 12th...when we first met, it felt like he was pouring out all his emotions, his emotions were definitely on his sleeves, being generally overall really romantic and sweet. I couldnt get enough of it. I fell hard. There is a definite feeling if he's miserable, I feel miserable. I want him to be happy. There is a psychic feeling when together, but there is also a tendency for the moon to be hesitant to state their feelings about things that are bothering them, in fear of 12th house's reaction. 12th house person has to reassure the Moon, that they wont bite Moon's head off. Reassurance is key. There is a lot more openness in this synastry placement, surprisingly. He and I have opened up about things(especially me) about our backgrounds, lives, feelings, we normally dont open up about.

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LOL@ "exhausting to explain" and to experience, right?

I definitely hear what you are saying. I am curious to know how this placement is 'always' involved in serious interactions, but especially ones that tend to be romantic. And I definitely understand what you are saying about how the moon person seems unsure of 12th house person's reactions. I experienced that once, where the moon person completely had this emotional...'spasm' and I literally just stood there and did not know how to respond, because it was SO out of character. Needless to say, that turned into a huge, huge mess.

I guess in another respect, I feel like, I do a lot of reading with these sort of relationships. I do think intuitive communication, while good, doesn't replace open communication. And in general, I feel they either 1.) think they know how I feel, 2.) are unclear about how I feel about things. But I do what I can to be open and honest. I think the main thing about this placement, for me, is that I become very, very protective of their feelings, self-worth, esteem...etc, even defensive over background, childhood experiences and things like that. And almost always, the moon person has had some experiences that I can always 'sense' and when they come out in the open, I just wish I could go back in time and take them away and stop whatever is hurting them or has hurt them.

posted January 29, 2012 01:36 AM            

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Originally posted by freebrainstorms:
this is so weird, cause i'm a virgo moon, and you described me PERFECTLY, not only that but i feel like i have the same thing as you're describing with a sag moon. i do feel like i can read him, and sometimes i think i am wrong, but other times i really think i'm right. on the other hand, i feel like he does really understand my emotions, and does see through my soul. i don't know what's in his 12th house, but after this i really hope it's virgo

"they were "waiting for me" to initiate something and they were unsure of how I see them. "
-yup.

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I think what is so...interesting about this for me, with the Virgo moon situation in particular is admiration--I normally admire these people so much for one reason or another. They all happen to be ridiculously intelligent and so very attentive.

posted January 29, 2012 03:55 PM            

"they all seem to have very complex minds and thinking systems couple with very gentle souls."

Thanks, and for the other compliments as well

I could see how we'd be seen complex, mostly because we always seem to be misinterpreted by people. We can often appear aloof, quiet, and cold, but really we're very self-sacrifing and have more love in us that people ever seem to realize. we want the best for everyone who comes into our radar, and we're more of the kind who would walk across hot coals if it meant keeping someone else from pain.

posted January 29, 2012 10:28 PM            

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Originally posted by freebrainstorms:
BINGO!
I don't really know a lot about house placements, but maybe it'd be worth looking into 12th house synastry.

"they all seem to have very complex minds and thinking systems couple with very gentle souls."

Thanks, and for the other compliments as well

I could see how we'd be seen complex, mostly because we always seem to be misinterpreted by people. We can often appear aloof, quiet, and cold, but really we're very self-sacrifing and have more love in us that people ever seem to realize. we want the best for everyone who comes into our radar, and we're more of the kind who would walk across hot coals if it meant keeping someone else from pain.

P.S. asking a virgo moon not to be critical is impossible, worrying means we care about someone, we're fairly maternal that way. i don't exactly know your exact situation, but maybe they're critical about themselves because they care about you, and therefore want to make sure they're not going to unintentionally hurt you. i don't know, just a guess, that could be my pisces venus coming through and not my virgo moon.

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You are welcome!

I wouldn't say I'd ask them to stop being self-critical, lol. But I've gotten very defensive of them when they are criticizing themselves, which is a little awkward. I do think in all of my interactions with Virgo moons, there is this 'not wanting to hurt me' or 'offend me' present, which is actually a big part of my character as well. But, human's are imperfect, so we are bound to have flaws. So it turns into a strange dance. And, I've had so many of these interactions with Virgo moons, I can tell you we typically care for each other a lot.

Regarding the 12th house synastry, I've read that the 'planet person' needs something related to the 12th house of the other person.

posted January 30, 2012 05:15 AM            

i have always attracted virgo moons too, and virgos in general. i've dated FIVE virgo moons. oh my word, five!? most fairly short term, like a couple of months kind of thing, two of them were more intense/longer term.

we have a few similarities cuz my draco moon is sag as well, and virgo falls into my 8th house so a relatively similar vibe to the twelfth. unfortunately i don't know anyone whose moon falls into my twelfth except.. you! heh.. seriously, i know no other sag moons (sadly) nor can i think of anyone with late taurus or gemini rising which would put my moon in their 12th. but i think the reason i am so attracted to them is cuz of the effect they have on my 8th house and i am a huge scorpio lover, so it makes sense. i think anyone falling in your water houses would have a profound effect on your emotional state (and vice versa?) and it makes sense that it would be a bit nebulous for you in this sort way since it seems it would also kind of make you a pisces moon by default, being that it triggers that house? i dunno, just a theory i sort of came up with while i was reading what you wrote but it seems like they see YOU as most see piscean moons, and it also brings out your compassion and gentleness, and i relate to feeling kind of scorp moonish when it comes to virgo moons. they bring out a lot of passion in me and i feel like an emotional detective around them

i wonder if part of the attraction is the square as well?

i was hanging with a good virgo moon friend last night. he's the only person i know whose sun trines my sun and moon trines my moon (both in very tight orb) and we always get along so well and naturally. actually he's one of the guys i briefly dated a while ago. anyway he is often quite critical but it's cute since he's fairly doting/paternal about it and i agree it means they care (i also think they will not bother being critical or speaking their mind in that direction to people who they know would not hear them out or care- that is to say there seems to be a link from their need for service/helpfulness with their ability to resonate emotionally and thus feel interest or attraction).

posted January 30, 2012 06:18 PM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
hi fire wire!

i have always attracted virgo moons too, and virgos in general. i've dated FIVE virgo moons. oh my word, five!? most fairly short term, like a couple of months kind of thing, two of them were more intense/longer term.

we have a few similarities cuz my draco moon is sag as well, and virgo falls into my 8th house so a relatively similar vibe to the twelfth. unfortunately i don't know anyone whose moon falls into my twelfth except.. you! heh.. seriously, i know no other sag moons (sadly) nor can i think of anyone with late taurus or gemini rising which would put my moon in their 12th. but i think the reason i am so attracted to them is cuz of the effect they have on my 8th house and i am a huge scorpio lover, so it makes sense. i think anyone falling in your water houses would have a profound effect on your emotional state (and vice versa?) and it makes sense that it would be a bit nebulous for you in this sort way since it seems it would also kind of make you a pisces moon by default, being that it triggers that house? i dunno, just a theory i sort of came up with while i was reading what you wrote but it seems like they see YOU as most see piscean moons, and it also brings out your compassion and gentleness, and i relate to feeling kind of scorp moonish when it comes to virgo moons. they bring out a lot of passion in me and i feel like an emotional detective around them

i wonder if part of the attraction is the square as well?

i was hanging with a good virgo moon friend last night. he's the only person i know whose sun trines my sun and moon trines my moon (both in very tight orb) and we always get along so well and naturally. actually he's one of the guys i briefly dated a while ago. anyway he is often quite critical but it's cute since he's fairly doting/paternal about it and i agree it means they care (i also think they will not bother being critical or speaking their mind in that direction to people who they know would not hear them out or care- that is to say there seems to be a link from their need for service/helpfulness with their ability to resonate emotionally and thus feel interest or attraction).

i think your 12th moon helps them feel safe but a bit unsure or uncomfortable; a weird house for them to fall into (love the humour here that i somehow never noticed! ) in that it's like they were dropped into a topsy turvy world that brings out all of their imaginings; a sort of fun house, filled with fog and slanted floors and with virtually no gravity, so they are looking for an anchor and maybe even redemption, sensing there is absolution or a chance of it with you. though again i have never had 12th moon synastry with anyone in real life that i can think of, but i do know virgo moons fairly well and i know how vastly complex and overlooked and misunderstood they are due to their general humility and relatively repressed emotional natures. hey i wonder if it is also just a matter of them being very attracted to your sag moon expressiveness as well? virgos seem to be into how 'comfortable' i am cuz i have taurus moon and it seems to help ground their anxieties to be around me, but i also have a lot of sag and see it as a really interesting mixing of very disparate yet highly motivated mutable energies.

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5 Virgo moons! Whoa buddy! That is quite a bit! The thing is, my moon is natally in my 3rd or 2nd house. So, my 12th is pretty interesting, like I mentioned, with the exception of my POF. I think, combining the things I've read about the 12th house POF and the things we know about the 12th house, it at least explains why most of the moons that fall in my 12th house are deeply spiritual and I am EXTREMELY protective of them. This combined with other astrologically indicators has shown most of them to be karmic soul mates, which is understandable. EMOTIONS RUN HIGH.

I do think various aspects of my 12th house makes them feel comfortable, only because I seem to understand them intuitively and sense their feelings. But I also agree it makes them very unsure and mildly...distrusting because they may feel like "wow, we are feeling so comfortable, you are so transparent to me--what is the catch." And I am glad you got the them falling in my 12th house humor, lol.

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
...so they are looking for an anchor and maybe even redemption, sensing there is absolution or a chance of it with you.

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Brilliantly stated! There always seems to be an undertone of that. This intangible offering that I feel like I might have and I also, at the same time, feel like they might have something as well. So, it allows us to meet halfway.

The Virgo moons are very interesting and fascinating people. I like them a lot, and we can talk about all sort of things, particularly how they feel and experience the world. And I do think my natural ability to feel comfortable expressing emotions with them offers an opportunity to for them to uncoil and express emotions as well. And the strange thing is that I am not very willing to discuss emotions, most of the time. Not with people I don't trust.

posted January 31, 2012 03:57 PM            

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Originally posted by woah cakes:
[B] ...anyway he is often quite critical but it's cute since he's fairly doting/paternal about it and i agree it means they care (i also think they will not bother being critical or speaking their mind in that direction to people who they know would not hear them out or care- that is to say there seems to be a link from their need for service/helpfulness with their ability to resonate emotionally and thus feel interest or attraction).

i think your 12th moon helps them feel safe but a bit unsure or uncomfortableB]

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posted February 02, 2012 06:07 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
My share this with my best friend.
I am not keen on H12 synastry,I like me H12 chilling and deluding on its own
However,the level of feeling good when interacting with her is unmatched,and I know this is H12 doing since it is very instinctual and hard to explain. She gets annoyed when I pull H12 Merc BS on (we get by,somehow)

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I've had moon and mercury of someone else in my 12th house, and basically it turns into my saying everything they...either don't say or don't want to feel or say. Lol, but I also have mercury in scorpio as well.

I think this is challenging. The more I think about it. It is actually quite overwhelming, as I feel I feel and know them too much. I might be talking to them and say something about them and their like "huh, how did you know that."

It's like...I don't know, they can't hide anything. And, these sort of placements make me want to be very, very transparent to the person. I've had this placement with a Scorpio and it was a disaster, they tried to hide EVERYTHING especially emotions. Eventually, they came out and they came pouring. I think I am drawn to people who also have repressed emotions, for some reason. But when they open up, they seem to feel a lot better. I definitely don't try to force them. I just sense what is going on in the subconscious, and sometimes it is painful because I feel I sense and see too much.

posted February 09, 2012 07:38 PM            

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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
^Yeah,that's why I am so touchy,I think even after many years,loving person must retain mystique. And how am I supposed to do it if somebody is camping in my H12

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posted February 10, 2012 05:09 AM            

Basic astrology forum, 12th house planets http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000666.html

let's not forget virgo moons are *worriers* (same as cancer)