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Chironrising
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posted January 28, 2012 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Each planet in a sign and a house of the birth chart represents certain life long wants, needs, or desires of an individual.

For example, Venus in Aquarius in the tenth house may give someone a desire or need or want to be an electric guitarist or an electrical engineer. If this person has Saturn in Scorpio in the sixth house squaring his Venus in Aqurius, his desire or need for intense efficiency may be at odds with his desire to be an electrical engineer or electric guitarist. Because it is saturn and venus at odds we most take into consideration the ontological mythical projection of each to see who will win, assuming we are comparing these aspects in a vacuum. We see here that venus is aphrodite, and we see that Saturn is father time based on myths from all sorts of cultures. We also see that the tendency for the common person is to follow Venus before Saturn. We see that in mythology, the heroe, slays father time, before he weds Venus, in chronological order. This order is significant because it demonstrates what we subconsciously know to be true, that without patience, dedication, simplicity, and efficiency any attainable desire or love is going to remain on a level of commonality both subjectively and universaly.

Assuming that Saturn has good aspects to other planets, the person may go in an order of relieving his tension according to the heroic path set up mythology. For example, Jupiter sextile Saturn is the dynamic between Zeus and Cronus in Greek mythology. So we see now the order of which will help him resolve Saturn. First, he acknowledges Saturn...time came before integrity, generosity, and the expansion of discipline, but soon after time was framed in our conscious mind, among the first of all things was generosity, integrity, and expansion of discipline.

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NickiG
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posted January 28, 2012 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when's it coming out?

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted January 28, 2012 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mail me a copy!

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Chironrising
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posted January 28, 2012 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
one year....It's devoted to the Goddess.

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Chironrising
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posted January 28, 2012 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will. The grammar is bad now, but It's cause I have to keep up with the ideas.

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posted January 28, 2012 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey good job =)

Just a suggestion...For "First, he acknowledges Saturn...time came before integrity, generosity, and the expansion of discipline, but soon after time was framed in our conscious mind, among the first of all things was generosity, integrity, and expansion of discipline."

I suggest you don't repeat yourself. One of the nonos in writing.
Just rephrase it.

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posted January 28, 2012 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Wow. Your subject must've been born in December 1984. Am I correct?

Venus in Aquarius, Saturn in Scorpio, Jupiter in Capricorn.

Just curious.

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posted January 28, 2012 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Chironrising:
I will. The grammar is bad now, but It's cause I have to keep up with the ideas.

Need an editor? I'm very reasonable.

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posted January 29, 2012 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yay!

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Chironrising
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posted January 29, 2012 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

Wow. Your subject must've been born in December 1984. Am I correct?

Venus in Aquarius, Saturn in Scorpio, Jupiter in Capricorn.

Just curious.



yes...why do you ask? Absolutely...genius that you knew...how did you?

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posted January 29, 2012 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:
Need an editor? I'm very reasonable.


Yes. I will need an editor....I could do it myself but it will take a year, with an editor maybe we can co-write....or co-benefit and do it by summer....what do you think?

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posted January 29, 2012 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Yay!

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IndigoDirae
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posted January 29, 2012 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndigoDirae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

ChironR,

I'd love to help you, actually, considering I'm a writer-editor and it would really, really help that you're working with someone who knows the material. Which also, lucky you, means I wouldn't charge for 'technical knowledge'. If it's easier for me, in other words, I don't have to hack away at it. It's much breezier, and I can barrel through the material. Since my experience is both in prose and performance, I have a strong aptitude for the written word as well as spoken. I like a thing to 'read' well, too.

Ha! I knew it. I just ... couldn't believe it, really. My costar's late December '84. Clearly, this was NOT coincidental, either. What you wrote very much resonated with me, and I think this hybrid of mythology, astrodrama and classic delineation is truly inspired.

Oh, I also have experience with astrodrama and interpreting the chart from a 'planets-are-people' perspective. I had great fun with that as a kid. I still amuse myself from time to time imagining my friend's newborn 01' Scorp Moon wailing in the background while my aged Scorp Moon/Ura combination looks on unsure of what to do. Ura just wants it to STOP, but Moon's feeling a bit helpless and guilty. If she could just REACH her, but ....

The most telling for me has been my Venus in shadow in the 12H. Poor thing. She really IS in the dark until someone comes along and pulls her out.

Do let me know if I can help out. And, curiously, how did you stumble upon that particular chart for an example? Quite eerie ....


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NickiG
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posted January 29, 2012 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'd like a copy too

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

when organic is used to describe food then you know we have come to a dark age in history

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posted January 29, 2012 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very Kewl

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Chironrising
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posted January 29, 2012 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by IndigoDirae:

ChironR,

I'd love to help you, actually, considering I'm a writer-editor and it would really, really help that you're working with someone who knows the material. Which also, lucky you, means I wouldn't charge for 'technical knowledge'. If it's easier for me, in other words, I don't have to hack away at it. It's much breezier, and I can barrel through the material. Since my experience is both in prose and performance, I have a strong aptitude for the written word as well as spoken. I like a thing to 'read' well, too.

Ha! I knew it. I just ... couldn't believe it, really. My costar's late December '84. Clearly, this was NOT coincidental, either. What you wrote very much resonated with me, and I think this hybrid of mythology, astrodrama and classic delineation is truly inspired.

Oh, I also have experience with astrodrama and interpreting the chart from a 'planets-are-people' perspective. I had great fun with that as a kid. I still amuse myself from time to time imagining my friend's newborn 01' Scorp Moon wailing in the background while my aged Scorp Moon/Ura combination looks on unsure of what to do. Ura just wants it to STOP, but Moon's feeling a bit helpless and guilty. If she could just REACH her, but ....

The most telling for me has been my Venus in shadow in the 12H. Poor thing. She really IS in the dark until someone comes along and pulls her out.

Do let me know if I can help out. And, curiously, how did you stumble upon that particular chart for an example? Quite eerie ....




Indigo, that specific example is me. Who is your costar? I'm not sure I follow who you know with similar aspects...it's a hell of a chart because it makes it difficult to do one thing....each planet is radically different.....but the mythology helps sort out a course that is of a heroic proportion....I want to do celebrity charts too perhaps, or simply yours or someone elses...but in due time...

the main point of the book is going to be about fractal metaphysics.....like this...

Saturn saturn = limited, depressed, contracting, suppressed repressed
saturn jupiter = limited, jovial - up for the challenge, discipline leading to expansion
saturn venus - the beauty of limits, desire to be morbid, gothic
saturn mars - dealer of death, limiter, remover of limitation, destroyer of destruction
saturn sun - capricorn
saturn moon - stern, spartan
saturn mercury - communicating structure, "look out, there's a grim reaper over your shoulder"

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Chironrising
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posted January 29, 2012 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chironrising     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
They can be characters too........but the fractal point is that saturn venus is a door way or reflection of venus saturn....so resolving issues involving squares can be a matter of perspective and metaphysics.....meditating...finding the path to the heart etc..

how cna we get in touch?

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