posted January 31, 2012 12:03 AM            

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Originally posted by taurusvirgoleolady1974:
chironrising my NN is in Sagittarius. could you explain more? so what exactly does this mean? Didnt even think my NN would have any connection. thanks

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posted January 31, 2012 12:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Chironrising:
what house is pluto and scorpio?

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nevermind your a gemini ascendant...

Okay....the more you journey outwar and meet partners of a different culture.......the more you will evolve into a healthy way of sharing....sharing what? Sharing seriousness? Sharing long range goals........this can be mentaly physicaly in business or in marriage whatever it be....but the more you focus on yourself in a narcissistic fashion the more you're pulled back towards your south node adn the less your soul growth occurs.....only you know how this happens...maybe in conversation....i don't know...but also the more you focus on a long range issue that requires focus...and the less you focus on all the aspects of yourself the more you will actually be able to effectively focus on all the aspects of yourself...the paradox...

look to th e rulers for more about the north nodes...but pluto in teh second is like..http://www.myastrologybook.com/Pluto-in-the-second-house-2nd-house.htm

but here's the thing this involves sharing....so it's emotional too...and psychic...so just work on the eighth house polarity point.. like this...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/54383508/2/Natal-Pluto-in-2nd-House

posted January 31, 2012 09:34 AM            

"actually, the more influential parent, whether for good or bad."
I disagree. They are both influental, 4th and 10th house. The 10th house may just be more visible.

In my case I`d say that probably my mom belongs into my 10th house; interestingly she is a SCorpio.
The ruler of my 4th house is Mars in SAgittarius conjunct Neptune. My Dad has Mars conjunct Neptune widely as well.
My mom was clearly more visible as kind of "authority figure", while my Dad was less authoritative and educational; he was more in the background when it came to educating us kids, but was very much in the centre when it came to spending freetime and playing with us.

"Often, the person with Pluto in the 10th will have a tyrant for a parent."
That`s not true in my case. My mum is no tyrant; she did have a powerful influence though, very influential.
If my Super ego has a voice, then it probably is hers.

"inextricably, tied to this parent."
Yes, I guess that is true.

"n on the cusp, the Pluto in the 10th house native will make a splash. Pluto is loud, in his own way,"
No, Pluto is not really loud, that is more Mars in nature. Pluto is more like a black hole, and that is why he draws attention to him.
Like in a group, Pluto will never be the one who shouts the loudest. He probably is te quiet observant one, but it is exactly through that quietness that he draws attention to himself. People are wondering about him.
And there is a quiet authority about him, something that will tell you that this person will not move an inch, if they are convinced of something.

I am never actively striving for a leadership position or authority;actually I often prefer to stay invisible. But for some reason I get noticed by my superiors and get complimented for traits I am not sure I even posess.

BTW a Pluto in Leo might be louder, or more "gamourous" than a Pluto in Virgo, or like in my case, in Libra probably.

"he will not submit to a leader whom he cannot respect."
Yes. True.

"He carries himself with dignity and expects the same from you, if you are to be True. Also, if someone does not share my "code of ethics" he is never going to become an intimate of mine.

posted January 31, 2012 09:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pluto in the 10th House
By amiann | Published: January 28, 2012 |

The 10th house is the house of career, society and one’s face to the greater society.It is, also, the house of the more dominant parent. The 4th house is, usually, the mother and the 10th, the father. However, the 10th is, actually, the more influential parent, whether for good or bad. Often, the person with Pluto in the 10th will have a tyrant for a parent. That native will be quick to tell you about it, as is has shaped his life. People may know him as someone who is, inextricably, tied to this parent. He may even be the brunt of jokes, as he is so obsessed. Remember, Pluto is the planet of obsession and give him a little grace. The 10th house is opposite the 4th house, which rules early childhood, and one’s childhood home. In contrast, the 10th house rules ones “home” in the greater society. The sign on the cusp will reveal how he shows his face to society. However, whatever the sign on the cusp, the Pluto in the 10th house native will make a splash. Pluto is loud, in his own way, even if it is a fist in a velvet glove. Pluto equals power. This native will make his presence known in whatever group he may join. He will, usually, rise to the top. One interesting fact about this Pluto is that if he is not the leader, he will not submit to a leader whom he cannot respect. He is rare in that he will stand up and be counted even if it goes against the crowd. He eschews sheep mentality. He can deal with dislike of him, but not weakness in his own moral character. He carries himself with dignity and expects the same from you, if you are to be his intimate. Even if he seems like a retiring creature when you meet him at a cocktail party, be aware that he is not. If you meet him in the boardroom, he will be a tiger. Know that and act accordingly. You know by now, not to toy with Pluto.

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My mother is a tyrant. Do as I say, not as I do. I've always felt a power struggle with my mother. I also have Black Moon Lilith (or is it Dark Moon Lilith? I get them so confused) in the 4th (directly opposite my Pluto!), and one interpretation I read said the native's mother will be a raging ***** . Bahahahahahaha.

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posted January 31, 2012 10:41 AM            

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Pluto in the 4th House
By amiann | Published: January 26, 2012 |
Pluto in the 4th seems to indicate a tumultuous childhood. The effects may stay with the person, as a sense of ongoing trauma, which lasts well beyond childhood. The 4th house is thought to be the mother, but it may be the father. One man had Pluto in the 4th and it was his father who left him with the effects of abuse which lasted, long after childhood. A fourth house Pluto may have had an unsettling early home life. He may, never, be able to count on salubrious surroundings, although there may be calm periods. One of the parents may be a gargoyle, of sorts. The astrologer would need to ask the native which one. However, it will become, abundantly, clear, with little probing, as one parent will have had a profound life changing effect.

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posted January 31, 2012 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Heartless:
in my case PL in H1 doesn't make much sense.

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i see.. well h1 pluto makes a lot of sense to me but i think all my planets are kinda like that-ish.. except i never wanted to be a policeman. but deciding things. that line kinda connects with me as iv mentioned it before that i want to have an input/ decision on how people live.. i also always used to be president in high school. got kinda lame tho in college coz it was less power more work lol!

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12th House Pluto here.
I can be a bit secretive (more so as I grow older), especially regarding things about which I feel some sort of vulnerability.

Example: Very few people know about my interest in astrology, etc.

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posted January 31, 2012 11:20 AM            

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Originally posted by sand:
i see.. well h1 pluto makes a lot of sense to me but i think all my planets are kinda like that-ish.. except i never wanted to be a policeman. but deciding things. that line kinda connects with me as iv mentioned it before that i want to have an input/ decision on how people live..

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I would have disagreed with what pluto in the first had to say a few years ago as well. Reason being as back then I had not come into my own power yet. I did not want to admit to myself that I wanted or enjoyed being a leader of any sort. I was still fearful of it. Now I very much enjoy it and strive to take charge of many things should I feel it's fitting for the situation. I can't say I actually desire to be a police officer. However I can see myself enjoying doing such a thing. A judge seems MUCH more enjoyable. I'm a scientist by trade though, and I like it that way .

posted January 31, 2012 11:29 AM            

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sand- my daughter is a 12th house pluto, ruled by Scorpio. Unfortunately she has been dealt a hand where she has guilt and has to keep a secret. THis is a secret that she was born into. Either way there are consequences for keeping it, or letting it go.
I try to help her with the guilt, letting her know its not her fault. She deals with it by not dealing with it, if you knw what i mean.

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posted January 31, 2012 12:20 PM            

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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I would have disagreed with what pluto in the first had to say a few years ago as well. Reason being as back then I had not come into my own power yet. I did not want to admit to myself that I wanted or enjoyed being a leader of any sort. I was still fearful of it. Now I very much enjoy it and strive to take charge of many things should I feel it's fitting for the situation. I can't say I actually desire to be a police officer. However I can see myself enjoying doing such a thing. A judge seems MUCH more enjoyable. I'm a scientist by trade though, and I like it that way .

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posted February 01, 2012 12:58 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Pluto in the First House
By amiann | Published: January 26, 2012 |

This native has a powerful presence. He screams of authority and leadership. If one aspires to be a policeman, a politician, a public speaker or a CEO, one would have a boost with Pluto in the 1st. This person is unforgettable, for good or bad. Pluto in the 1st house has an innate charisma. It is up to him how to use it, as his ego can be big. Having a big ego can be an asset or a liability. One can use it to for good, or for one’s selfish purposes. Pluto in the 1st is called upon to decide.

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I do have huge ego... plus my mars is in 1st house too...

Hmmmmmm... i seriously don't mind being a CEO.

posted February 01, 2012 09:48 AM            

Pluto in the 4th House
By amiann

Pluto in the 4th seems to indicate a tumultuous childhood. The effects may stay with the person, as a sense of ongoing trauma, which lasts well beyond childhood. The 4th house is thought to be the mother, but it may be the father. One man had Pluto in the 4th and it was his father who left him with the effects of abuse which lasted, long after childhood. A fourth house Pluto may have had an unsettling early home life. He may, never, be able to count on salubrious surroundings, although there may be calm periods. One of the parents may be a gargoyle, of sorts. The astrologer would need to ask the native which one. However, it will become, abundantly, clear, with little probing, as one parent will have had a profound life changing effect.

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posted February 01, 2012 05:02 PM            

The 6th house rules both service and health. People with strong Virgo may be overly critical, on one hand, and very helpful on the other. They like things to be done right, but they will be the first to pitch in and help. If you want adherence to rules and details, find your favorite Virgo. Dot your i’s and cross your t’s, if you want to make Virgo happy. Pluto in the 6th may shake up one’s work, if one’s work is of a practical service nature such as hair dresser, car mechanic or any of the many service occupations. Pluto in the 6th may indicate health shake ups, too. One of my friends with this placement had to deal with a rare genetic disease in 2 children, which resulted in both he and his wife donating kidneys. The 6th house is not an easy house in which to have planets. The difficulties are not so much emotional as is the 8th, or spiritual, as is the 12th. They difficulties are more of a mundane real world nature, as the 6th house deals with the realities of life in the every day world.

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