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IamLoved
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posted February 02, 2012 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would happen if a couple got married during a mercure, venus, mars, jupiter, and/or saturn retrograde?

And what if they have a second marriage (or wedding vow renewal ceremony) when there is no retrograde, will that help to solidify their bond?

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posted February 02, 2012 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Is venus the worst transiting retrograde to marry under?

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posted February 02, 2012 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Katy Perry and Russel Brand.

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posted February 02, 2012 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Solar returns don't sodify our natals; transits and progressions can do it,since they are in most direct connection to our natal potential.

Since we can't be born twice,no renewal can help the cause,the only date that counts is the wedding day.

I heard that not marrying during Venus Rx is a silent consensus among astrologers

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posted February 02, 2012 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Katy Perry and Russel Brand.

did they marry under a retrograde? If so which one?

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posted February 02, 2012 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:

I heard that not marrying during Venus Rx is a silent consensus among astrologers

Okay thanks, because I've looked at the wedding date of this one celeb couple who got married on the 31st of December 1997 and they are still happily married


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posted February 02, 2012 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you must be talkng about Will and Jada.
Marc Anthony and Jennifer Lopez married under venus retrograde. People were talking about how they defied the odds, now they have split, so who knows. Only time will tell.
I made sure we did not get married in venus retro becuase of all the research i read on picking a date, it looked like venus and mercury retro were the worst. mercury for signing the marriage license.

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posted February 03, 2012 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for birdy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whats her name with the butt...uhhhm Kim K girl and that basketball guy married during the Mercury rx...

That other girl...whats her name, she was in Desperate housewives...Hispanic girl..she married during one...

Both examples divorced.

Jillian Reynolds of Good Day L.A. married in 06 during a Mercury rx and apparently still married to her spouse.

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posted February 03, 2012 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by taurusvirgoleolady1974:
you must be talkng about Will and Jada.
Marc Anthony and Jennifer Lopez married under venus retrograde. People were talking about how they defied the odds, now they have split, so who knows. Only time will tell.
I made sure we did not get married in venus retro becuase of all the research i read on picking a date, it looked like venus and mercury retro were the worst. mercury for signing the marriage license.

Yes, I was referring to Will and Jada

You're smart!!!

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posted February 03, 2012 01:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by birdy:
Whats her name with the butt...uhhhm Kim K girl and that basketball guy married during the Mercury rx...

That other girl...whats her name, she was in Desperate housewives...Hispanic girl..she married during one...

Both examples divorced.

Jillian Reynolds of Good Day L.A. married in 06 during a Mercury rx and apparently still married to her spouse.



This is interesting!


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posted February 03, 2012 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's kind of hard to marry when there is nothing retrograde. What happens when you marry during a Saturn retrograde?

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posted February 04, 2012 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackSeraph     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looked up the positions for the day my parents got married (Nov. 22, 1976).

Jupiter was retrograde AND conjunct fixed star Algol.
Saturn was stationing Retrograde.
Pluto was direct but conjunct fixed star Algorab.

Before I was a year old, we moved into the house I'm currently in (Spring 1979). It has always had a problem with the basement flooding (the previous owners couldn't be bothered to tell my parents that apparently). Then, when I was 4 (~late 1982-early 1983), we were burglarized and not only did the burglars make it across state lines and evade capture, the insurance company did really cover anything and I think cancelled the policy on us, forcing my dad to sell some of his machine shop equipment to keep the house and putting us in some hard times for a long while as I recall.

Hearing dad talk about it, mom never really recovered from that experience. Her depression got worse, she was eventually checked into the hospital for observation for a couple weeks when I was in my 2nd go of Kindergarten (1986 - yeah, was left back, was too young to have really started the first year considering I turned 5 the week before that school year started (late August 1983)), and at the beginning of fifth grade (Sept. 1989) my mom went into the hospital with pancreatitis. Died 18 days later (ironically after stabilizing enough to come out of the ICU). So yes, the marriage ended in death due to illness.

Based on this alone, I would say very much to check potential wedding dates for retrogrades AND conjunctions with Algol/Algorab and I'll throw in fixed star Scheat as well. Wouldn't have helped my parents as dad most certainly didn't believe in astrology then and both were Christian and pretty into the church at that point (as far as I know). Dad has relaxed his stances somewhat since then (to the point he really doesn't like any religion now, but still believes there's a higher power).

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posted February 04, 2012 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IamLoved:
What would happen if a couple got married during a mercure, venus, mars, jupiter, and/or saturn retrograde?

And what if they have a second marriage (or wedding vow renewal ceremony) when there is no retrograde, will that help to solidify their bond?


All love relationships are in danger when Venus is retrograde, regardless of its direction in the wedding charts. Venus retrograde "is falling out of love" and takes on a Mars attitude causing each partner to expect more of the other and each partner to more individualistic.

When the Sun transits Aquarius divorce rates rise. Aquarius is the sing of freedom and Uranus rules divorce. Usually one of the parties does not want the divorce but more often finds that the suddenness of it was the cause of the suffering and that the situation actually is better than before in some way.

Mercury retrograde is not guarantee of divorce. There will be changes in the marriage on the years Mercury progresses direct and if divorce occurs it may well coincide with Mercury returning by progression to the degree where it was in the wedding chart. Also, if Mercury is retrograde and divorce does occur the divorce will most likely be file during a period when Mercury is transiting retrograde. If there is a secret marriage followed by a public ceremony, the chart of the public ceremony probably will have Mercury retrograde.

Mercury in the wedding chart represents the children born to the union and a retrograde, if in the fifth, seventh, ninth, eleventh, etc., house will depict that the pregnancy representing that child will result in a miscarriage. Now to clarify; The fifth house is the first child, the seventh house is the second child and the third child is the ninth house. If Mercury is retrograde in any of these houses the child represented by that house will deliver prematurely. In which case the following alternate house will rule any next child to be born.

The ANARETIC degree (29’) of any sign is to be AVOIDED in a wedding chart, especially for the degree of ASCENDANT, MIDHEAVEN, SUN, MOON, VENUS, MARS, OR JUPITER.

THIS IS SAID TO BE THE DEGREE OF TEARS!

Sun at 29 degrees, Moon at 29 degrees. Jupiter opposite Uranus.
Uranus square Moon, Venus or Mars SHOULD BE AVOIDED in any wedding chart because Uranus is freedom and the square stimulates too much friction between parties.

The Ascendant in the marriage chart event and may be performed under tearful circumstances of someone.

The Midheaven brings scandal or trouble from the parents.

The Sun is the masculine image and authority of the chart and the 29TH DEGREE OF THE SUN DESTROYS THE IDENTITY OF ONE OF THE PARTIES.

Moon in the 29TH DEGREE BRINGS MUCH UNHAPPINESS TO THE WIFE, HOME AND FAMILY MAY ALSO SUFFER IN TIME.

Venus influences happiness and love. Venus at the 29th degree DENIES LOVE TO ONE OF THE PARTNERS. Eg; early death of one of the partners or accident or illness immobilising one.

Mars is vitality and energy. One of the partners will feel TOO RESTRICTED and the partnership may even be interspersed with actual combat. Venus and Mars at the 29th degree will have a bearing on the sexual relationship between the parties.

Jupiter represents the legality of the act and the ceremony itself. Jupiter in the 29th degree is very prominent.

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If we want marriage to last than we must stick to these rules regarding wedding chart:
• fixed ASC
• Moon must not be in Scorpio
• Venus and Mars must be in easy applying aspect
• Sun or Moon must not have applying aspect with Ur
• Venus must be direct
• Sa, Ma, Ur, Pl must not be in angular house
• ruler of ASC and ruler of DSC must be in easy applying aspect
• Ruler of ASC must not be in conjunction with Sa

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posted February 04, 2012 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much Saggi and VenusDiSirius, very good info!

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posted February 04, 2012 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IamLoved     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you all soooo much dor your informative posts! I truly appreciate the info that you have shared with us!!

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posted February 06, 2012 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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