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Topic: Venus conjunct Chiron
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Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 709 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 02:34 PM
Idk if this thread will be put in another forum - in Magi Astrology they say Venus-Chiron is one of the most powerful linkages to have in Synastry, but after reading blogs about people who experienced it in there relations say it is the most painful and heartbreaking. I'm currently in a relation where my Venus conjuncts his Chiron exact. If this aspect is painful, who is the one that might get heartbroken in the future?IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 683 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 02:42 PM
It depends on how Chiron is aspected in the others chart and in general because if there are harsh aspects in his chart to Chiron he will hurt you.IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 709 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 02:47 PM
his strongest aspect w/ chiron opposites Saturn x.x So I guess this aspect could be a make or break? IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 683 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 03:02 PM
Yeah he will probably hurt you if he hasn't dealt with his own wound.IP: Logged |
woah cakes Knowflake Posts: 924 From: Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 03, 2012 03:04 PM
had this in my last relationship that just ended a few weeks ago. half a degree orb, i was the chiron. my chiron is very afflicted (well, with the wide-ish orbs that are default on astro.com) and i did not hurt him, but he hurt me. i'm pretty numb about it but yeah it was pretty heartbreaking. there was definitely lots of potential for something transcendantly healing tho; we had moments of this.. seems kind of like this aspect dominated all our interactions cuz he knew how to hurt me and it was too much of a temptation to him (ended very badly with him intentionally hurting me) but there was also always this other potential that was inescapably obvious, of deep sweet mutual healing. and i dunno if this is always the case but it seemed like he had the power, the choice, as venus. my theory is that the chiron person provides the healing impetus and is wound-able. it seems to me like chiron helps heal the love nature, where venus is wounded, but since chiron is the woundED healer, it is the one more succeptable to being wounded. i guess it could go the other way depending on other chart factors, though. seems like conjunctions are a blending and fusing of energies, and with projection and whatnot, conjunctive aspects seem to be able to go either way, it seems..?IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 709 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 03:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by woah cakes: had this in my last relationship that just ended a few weeks ago. half a degree orb, i was the chiron. my chiron is very afflicted (well, with the wide-ish orbs that are default on astro.com) and i did not hurt him, but he hurt me. i'm pretty numb about it but yeah it was pretty heartbreaking. there was definitely lots of potential for something transcendantly healing tho; we had moments of this.. seems kind of like this aspect dominated all our interactions cuz he knew how to hurt me and it was too much of a temptation to him (ended very badly with him intentionally hurting me) but there was also always this other potential that was inescapably obvious, of deep sweet mutual healing. and i dunno if this is always the case but it seemed like he had the power, the choice, as venus. my theory is that the chiron person provides the healing impetus and is wound-able. it seems to me like chiron helps heal the love nature, where venus is wounded, but since chiron is the woundED healer, it is the one more succeptable to being wounded. i guess it could go the other way depending on other chart factors, though. seems like conjunctions are a blending and fusing of energies, and with projection and whatnot, conjunctive aspects seem to be able to go either way, it seems..?
Sorry to hear that :[ Could there have been other aspects in your synastry that could have influenced his negative behavior towards you? (perhaps harsh aspects to saturn or mars) What a shame, when I first seen venus-chiron in our chart I was really excited. Though I don't ever see myself as the venus person hurting him, at least not on purpose. I have Venus sextile Chiron in my own chart. IP: Logged |
MC2012 Knowflake Posts: 579 From: Calgary Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2012 03:26 PM
Chiron square sun and mercury also Chiron opposing Pluto and Uranus in someone's chart. Anybody know about it? Is this someone in pain and is abusive? IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 709 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 03:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by MC2012: Chiron square sun and mercury also Chiron opposing Pluto and Uranus in someone's chart. Anybody know about it? Is this someone in pain and is abusive?
I actually have Sun square Chiron with my cousin, Double whammy x.x I'm not gonna lie I haven't been the greatest older cousin to her. I teased her a lot and even though we have the aspect both ways she hasn't hurt me as nearly as much as I hurt her. On a positive note we also have Venus-Jupiter double whammy, a trine & conjunction. So no matter how much we upset eachother we always laugh it off in the end... :/ it's an odd relationship Lol IP: Logged |
MC2012 Knowflake Posts: 579 From: Calgary Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2012 03:31 PM
We need every info we can get on Chiron and all the experiences with different planets and asteroids aspects. There should be more info on this little guy if he's either the "wounded healer" or the "marriage" predictor that they say he is in magi astrology. IP: Logged |
MC2012 Knowflake Posts: 579 From: Calgary Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2012 03:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: I actually have Sun square Chiron with my cousin, Double whammy x.xI'm not gonna lie I haven't been the greatest older cousin to her. I teased her a lot and even though we have the aspect both ways she hasn't hurt me as nearly as much as I hurt her. On a positive note we also have Venus-Jupiter double whammy, a trine & conjunction. So no matter how much we upset eachother we always laugh it off in the end... :/ it's an odd relationship Lol
That's cute lol you just gave me a visual of the fun days  IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 709 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 03:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by MC2012: We need every info we can get on Chiron and all the experiences with different planets and asteroids aspects. There should be more info on this little guy if he's either the "wounded healer" or the "marriage" predictor that they say he is in magi astrology.
I agree IP: Logged |
MC2012 Knowflake Posts: 579 From: Calgary Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2012 03:50 PM
They have Pluto, Saturn and other planets in the houses but don't have Chiron in the houses and important asteroids for that matter. The one who writes this book will help sooo many ppl. IP: Logged |
MC2012 Knowflake Posts: 579 From: Calgary Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2012 04:01 PM
So here's a little something from the Magi astrology site that I found interesting... (In our third book, we revealed our discovery that Chiron is the most romantic of the planets. Chiron is the planet that points to your soulmate, symbolizes true love, marriage, romantic attachment, the family and pregnancy. When Chiron makes a linkage angle to any planet, the two planets form a Chiron Linkage and they are all romantic linkages. But in our third book we gave the name “Cinderella Linkage” to the following three Chiron Linkages because they are the most powerful at creating true love and marriage: Venus and Chiron Jupiter and Chiron Neptune and Chiron These are the three most powerful linkages made by Chiron and they are the three most romantic linkages two persons can have.
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MC2012 Knowflake Posts: 579 From: Calgary Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2012 04:07 PM
I remember asking Amianne to read my asteroids aspects in my synastry and she said they couldn't tell her much. She said it hasn't happened to her before that she couldn't read them. It just shows there's not enough information on this and it's very important in astrology. IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 366 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 04:31 PM
Note: This is not being posted as a request for a personal reading, but in relation to this topic.My husband's and my synastry includes some Chiron linkages. (Orb reduced to 40%.) He's in red, I'm in blue. We've been married a little over two years, and I can say that (so far) it's been an incredibly healing relationship for both of us. While we can bring up each other's insecurities and open wounds, we've been very open about them - talking through them's been immensely beneficial. ex: "I'm feeling insecure about this right now - can we talk about it?" from both sides...actually, truth be told, he's the one who opened that door. I'm not sure I'd have been comfortable enough being that frank about it without his initiation. IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 709 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 04:38 PM
quote: Originally posted by MC2012: So here's a little something from the Magi astrology site that I found interesting... (In our third book, we revealed our discovery that Chiron is the most romantic of the planets. Chiron is the planet that points to your soulmate, symbolizes true love, marriage, romantic attachment, the family and pregnancy. When Chiron makes a linkage angle to any planet, the two planets form a Chiron Linkage and they are all romantic linkages. But in our third book we gave the name “Cinderella Linkage” to the following three Chiron Linkages because they are the most powerful at creating true love and marriage: Venus and Chiron Jupiter and Chiron Neptune and Chiron These are the three most powerful linkages made by Chiron and they are the three most romantic linkages two persons can have.
Yea I've seen this article before  I'm starting to believe that Jupiter-Chiron is better than venus-chiron. I have no idea what Neptune-chiron means though lol IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 709 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 04:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: Note: This is not being posted as a request for a personal reading, but in relation to this topic.My husband's and my synastry includes some Chiron linkages. (Orb reduced to 40%.) He's in red, I'm in blue. We've been married a little over two years, and I can say that (so far) it's been an incredibly healing relationship for both of us. While we can bring up each other's insecurities and open wounds, we've been very open about them - talking through them's been immensely beneficial. ex: "I'm feeling insecure about this right now - can we talk about it?" from both sides...actually, truth be told, he's the one who opened that door. I'm not sure I'd have been comfortable enough being that frank about it without his initiation.
Interesting, looks lie you guys have Venus conjunct Chiron (3-5 degs?) and Jupiter trine Chiron Nice I can definitely see how your relationship is healing IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 366 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 04:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Moonfish: Interesting, looks lie you guys have Venus conjunct Chiron (3-5 degs?) and Jupiter trine Chiron Nice I can definitely see how your relationship is healing
Yep, I just looked up the exact degrees (I'm not good enough to remember them off hand ).My Venus is at 7* Taurus, his Chiron's at 3* Taurus (too loose? don't know - I think we feel it, though), and my Jupiter's at 3* Virgo.
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MC2012 Knowflake Posts: 579 From: Calgary Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 03, 2012 04:48 PM
Ya nice chart mockingbird I don't know about Neptune and Chiron either moonfish hmmm sounds like it would kinda make Chiron sleepy and dreamy lol IP: Logged |
Moonfish Knowflake Posts: 709 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 03, 2012 04:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: Yep, I just looked up the exact degrees (I'm not good enough to remember them off hand ).My Venus is at 7* Taurus, his Chiron's at 3* Taurus (too loose? don't know - I think we feel it, though), and my Jupiter's at 3* Virgo.
Personally I don't think it's too wide. Some astrologers say its 5 degs max, others say 7. Overall I think it has influence IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 366 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted February 04, 2012 05:37 PM
Anyone else?IP: Logged |
Lioness Knowflake Posts: 4219 From: Registered: Mar 2010
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posted February 06, 2012 12:41 AM
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