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mockingbird
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posted February 08, 2012 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, maybe not all the signs, but what would you say if you saw both a t-square and a yod "point" to the same planet?

(And by "point" with the t-square, I don't mean the missing leg, I mean the planrt that's square both the other planets.)

Edited to add: OK, not a yod. (Sorry - looking things up is slow going on my phone.)
Whatever this is "pointing" to Saturn in this chart:

Note: Not posted for personal interp, but to illustrate this particular config.
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posted February 08, 2012 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is one way to find out: watch what happens when a transit over this particular planet activates your configurations.

For instance, my Mars is the peak of my t-sq. You bet that every time I have a transit over my Mars *something* is happening in my life.
Depending on who/what is transiting my Mars and how, I get all sorts of different manifestations.

On the other hand, also check if this planet in your chart is an inner or outer planet. Except the above to be more pronounced for your inner/personal planets (Sun, Moon, Merc, Venus, Mars).


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posted February 08, 2012 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anon - I edited my original post (took a while...tiny keyboard.)

I'll have to ask him re: transits.

Re: personal vs outer vs transpersonal: In this instance, the whatever-it-is involves his Sun and two outer but highly aspected) planets.
Would their having lots of contacts make a difference?

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posted February 08, 2012 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HA HA!

Mini Grand Trine.

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posted February 08, 2012 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mockingbird:
Anon - I edited my original post (took a while...tiny keyboard.)

I'll have to ask him re: transits.

Re: personal vs outer vs transpersonal: In this instance, the whatever-it-is involves his Sun and two outer but highly aspected) planets.
Would their having lots of contacts make a difference?


No, I meant the *transiting* planet need be an inner/personal planet (to have an immediate effect on the apex of the t-sq and yod). This doesn't mean that when an outer planet hits the same "point" you won't feel it; it's just that the effects are mroe slow-going with the outer planets as they stretch in time. So for purposes of transit-watch, check transits from inner planets.

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posted February 08, 2012 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhhh, sorry I misunderstood.

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posted February 08, 2012 07:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I realize that by calling them "personal" I got u confused. I prefer to call them "inner" (as opposed to "outer") but some people understand "personal" more easily esp. when we talk about a natal chart. But I was talking about transiting planets so scratch "personal"; "inner" is best.

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posted February 08, 2012 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you have 5in fire, which is a lot and mercury and Uranus singletons to

Basic astrology forum, retrogrades,Unaspected & Singletons http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=

So you lack earth and water elements, but to compensate you have 3planets in earth houses ie: 2nd & 6th and 3 in water houses, 4th and 12th.

T Squares are *extremely common*
T Square http://www.drstandley.com/astrologycharts_tsquare.shtml
“Two planets in opposition squared to a third. The tension typical of the opposition aspect is aggravated by additional problems introduced by the third planet. Often an obstructive feature blocking the normal flow of behaviour of the person. Person needs to develop activities represented by the "missing" arm of the T-square to achieve wholeness” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natal_astrology#Aspect_patterns http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspects2.html

“The t-square is exactly like the above configuration except that one of the signs is missing. Time and again this is described as trying to sit in a chair with three legs. Ironically, the individual becomes the fourth leg by acting out the traits which are missing in the chart.” http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/moreaspects2.htm

what tends to happen with T Squares is that a transit, progression or solar arc comes along and temporary converts it to a Grand Square, which does cause enormous tensions/problems internally, but the good thing is the get you up off your backside to resolve issues.

Now this Saturn has a small talent triangle..
Talent triangle http://joycehopewell.blogspot.com/2006/07/belle-filles-recorder.html http://stellarclock.com/blog/2009/08/23/small-talent-triangle/ http://www.janeritson-astrologer.co.uk/Personalities_Charts_1.html

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posted February 08, 2012 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon quincunx mercury – possible sleep problems, or affect the nervous system

“emotions and intellect interfere with each other so you have difficulty in solving your problems. You over react emotionally to situations and so cannot rationalise them properly. When you inject feeling instead of examining the facts, any reasonable evaluation of the situation becomes impossible. You infer that criticism is directed at you when that is not the case at all, your reaction is all out of proportion to the truth. But you are emotionally aroused and take out your hostility on those dearest to you without realising it. People can easily learn to resent and avoid you at the same time”.
From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Moon Quincunx Mercury
“You end up confused at times because you read more into communications than are there. It's good to be able to read between the lines - just make sure you are also reading what is on the lines. Your expectations and imagination are assets as soon as you are able to develop a method for expressing your true feelings. Since many of your feelings are hidden from you, self expression becomes a path of self discovery.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/q...retations.html

Mercury Quincunx Neptune
“Lots of time and effort can be wasted when you plan on things that are way out of reach. Your imagination and ideals serve you well when you are careful to keep the sequence of essential happenings in mind and accept your own idiosyncrasies. Be careful you don't promise more to others than you can deliver. Self-honesty is not easy but it is essential in order to develop.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html

“You make promises you cannot keep and console yourself by saying, "Well at least I tried." However, your reasoning is not in keeping with the facts. You create for yourself painful responsibilities that are usually unnecessary. You worry over unnecessary problems that may never develop and overreact to those that do. You exaggerate the seriousness of your failures and may even become ill by dwelling on tasks you think others expect you to do. You are imaginative, inspired, and creative but find difficulty in expressing these qualities to your complete satisfaction.”

From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag

Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.

Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesis
What tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...

You should be able to identify with these mercury aspects with mercury being in an Angular house...
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000671.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Neptune in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000661.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Uranus in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000662.html

Basic astrology forum discussing Pluto in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000663.html

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