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IamLoved
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posted February 09, 2012 09:23 PM
  
How do Scorpio rising natives express love?How does a person know that a Scorpio rising cares for them? IP: Logged |
Starry~*
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posted February 09, 2012 09:26 PM
1) Possessiveness, jealousy, sometimes resorting to power games but that's cuz we're too pu$$ to admit that we're afraid to lose you.2) We show care by kissing you, having sex with you and doing things for you we normally don't see ourselves doing. - Scorp Rising. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 09, 2012 09:27 PM
By being clingy...I dated a scorpio rising once. He was pretty needy imo. ^ my guy wasn't that possessive or jealous (thank god lol) but still, didn't like the fact he kinda couldn't give me space to breathe. He reminds me an other ex who had a scorpio mars. HE was clingy too! Must be a water thing haha. IP: Logged |
Starry~*
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posted February 09, 2012 09:29 PM
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By being clingy...I dated a scorpio rising once. He was pretty needy imo. ^ my guy wasn't that possessive or jealous (thank god lol) but still, didn't like the fact he kinda couldn't give me space to breathe. He reminds me an other ex who had a scorpio mars. HE was clingy too! Must be a water thing haha.
"didn't like the fact he kinda couldn't give me space to breathe." - Bingo!  that's a form of our possessiveness. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 09, 2012 09:31 PM
I don't think the guy loved me though lol, we only dated for like 4 and half months. It's more like how do they express 'like.'IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 09, 2012 09:32 PM
He used to be like (through text) 'it's been ___ hours since I texted you.' (when I didn't text back. I was busy)
This guy had a fire venus AND mars so you would have thought he was less needy!
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tautomer4314
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posted February 09, 2012 09:38 PM
A very good friend of mine is a scorpio rising (conjunct pluto 1st). He's very very intense about who he loves and puts more energy into it then most people I know. In the past he has smothered people because of it. Very few people could take the intensity and focus that he had. Until he met the girl he is currently with. She loves that.The biggest things with scorpio risings that I have seen is they simply have a very intense heavy presence. You either jive with it, or you don't. ------------------
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IamLoved
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posted February 09, 2012 09:39 PM
OMG you guys rock! Thank you so much for your timely responses!  I truly appreciate everyone! I wonder what kind of power games Scorpio risings play when they are in love. IP: Logged |
Starry~*
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posted February 09, 2012 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
A very good friend of mine is a scorpio rising (conjunct pluto 1st). He's very very intense about who he loves and puts more energy into it then most people I know. In the past he has smothered people because of it. Very few people could take the intensity and focus that he had. Until he met the girl he is currently with. She loves that.The biggest things with scorpio risings that I have seen is they simply have a very intense heavy presence. You either jive with it, or you don't.
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Starry~*
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posted February 09, 2012 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by IamLoved:
OMG you guys rock! Thank you so much for your timely responses! I truly appreciate everyone! I wonder what kind of power games Scorpio risings play when they are in love.
The ones where we make you feel insecure and wanna come to us crying so that we feel we have finally gained control and restored order back into YOU and the relationship. (AKA having the upper hand again) But after a while, when we really truly love you and we realize we don't wanna mess things up and make you hate us..we learn to eventually stop with the games. And that is hard, because stopping the games we play would mean us having to deal with our own demons and insecurities and letting you go little by little. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 09, 2012 09:42 PM
Just alot of bs. They test you and push at you to see how much you 'care about them.' They do alot of things, and say alot of things just to see your reaction, and if it's one that's satisfactory that keeps them content for the day.Just too many mind games. Hope your guy has some more carefree and straight up placements in his chart. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 09, 2012 09:45 PM
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The ones where we make you feel insecure and wanna come to us crying so that we feel we have finally gained control and restored order back into YOU and the relationship.But after a while, when we really truly love you and we realize we don't wanna mess things up and make you hate us..we learn to eventually stop with the games. And that is hard, because stopping the games we play would mean us having to deal with our own demons and insecurities and letting you go a little.
But isn't it really unfair and in a way selfish to treat a s/o like that? I don't like how water signs have double standards. With Scorp, it's like 'I can do this to you, but IF YOU DARE do any of this back to me, watch out.'
Doesn't playing games get tiring?
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posted February 09, 2012 09:47 PM
" But isn't it really unfair and in a way selfish to treat a s/o like that? I don't like how water signs have double standards. With Scorp, it's like 'I can do this to you, but IF YOU DARE do any of this back to me, I'll sting you HARD.'
Doesn't playing games get tiring? "Ya it gets real tiring! We realize that once we start examining and questioning ourselves. Self reflect..why do we do that? why do we react the way we do? etc. It's not fair but as a true scorp would say, Life is never fair and it's not about fairness! (I'm a libra sun/moon/mars so I duno how to react to that saying. =\ ) IP: Logged |
IamLoved
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posted February 09, 2012 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by Starry~*:
The ones where we make you feel insecure and wanna come to us crying so that we feel we have finally gained control and restored order back into YOU and the relationship. (AKA having the upper hand again)But after a while, when we really truly love you and we realize we don't wanna mess things up and make you hate us..we learn to eventually stop with the games. And that is hard, because stopping the games we play would mean us having to deal with our own demons and insecurities and letting you go a little.
Thank you so much for this!!! Could playing phone games also be one of them? Say for example you text them 3 days ago and they didn't text or call back for 3 days?
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tautomer4314
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posted February 09, 2012 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
But isn't it really unfair and in a way selfish to treat a s/o like that? I don't like how water signs have double standards. With Scorp, it's like 'I can do this to you, but IF YOU DARE do any of this back to me, watch out.'
Doesn't playing games get tiring?
I know you really don't jive with scorpio placements, but not all scorpios are like that. Further, some people actually do like those sort of games. The key behind it is the intent. As I have said before, in certain cases I will "mess" with people, and I do so for their benifet or for mutual enjoyment. The second I can tell it's not appreciated it either talk it out, stop, or just cease interacting with the person. Scorpio is actually a very honest sign in my experience, and they don't actively try to deceive people (the healthy ones at least), so it can be reasoned with. I actually find gemini placements to be the most deceptive signs (despite my strong gemini influence, I don't always get along with gemini energy well). Relationships are a two way street. If there is mutual understanding between the two, and it's agreed upon, there is no double standard. ------------------
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Starry~*
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posted February 09, 2012 10:06 PM
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Originally posted by IamLoved:
Thank you so much for this!!!Could playing phone games also be one of them? Say for example you text them 3 days ago and they didn't text or call back for 3 days?
Hm..something's definitely up then, why don't you ask? You HAVE to be honest with them and straightforward. I'm a scorp rising dating a scorp man. He wouldn't stop replying to my texts outta no where..UNLESS I said something wrong that rubbed him the wrong way. Besides that he'll always get back to me. (It's okay, it takes time to realize it AFTER the fact) Example:
(text before this had instant replies)
Me: I went to lunch with mr.x
Me: Btw I ordered us some stuff from amazon, just FYI it's gonna ship over in the next few days ok?
Him: (No answer at all.)
Him -
ordering stuff and having it shipped over: ok.
Lunch with some other guy: not really ok. Be honest with us. Very important. We will be honest and we are honest people (like Tautomer said) or atleast most of us. Don't beat around the bush! IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted February 09, 2012 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I know you really don't jive with scorpio placements, but not all scorpios are like that. Further, some people actually do like those sort of games. The key behind it is the intent. As I have said before, in certain cases I will "mess" with people, and I do so for their benifet or for mutual enjoyment. The second I can tell it's not appreciated it either talk it out, stop, or just cease interacting with the person.Scorpio is actually a very honest sign in my experience, and they don't actively try to deceive people (the healthy ones at least), so it can be reasoned with. I actually find gemini placements to be the most deceptive signs (despite my strong gemini influence, I don't always get along with gemini energy well). Relationships are a two way street. If there is mutual understanding between the two, and it's agreed upon, there is no double standard.
Joking around is different from what the games they usually play. Those aren't enjoyable at all. I don't like some scorpio traits cos I think it centers around selfishness. It's strange cos since I have sun sextile pluto (1 degree) and my pluto in the 8th in scorpio, it's a singleton, which makes me quite plutonian too. But I guess I possess the more healthier plutonian traits (strength, determination etc). I'm not saying every scorpio is like this, but a big portion are. Which is such a shame.
I think you don't actually need to play games or test people to gather how trustworthy they are and how they feel about you. You just need to look at their actions for an extended period of time.
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teasel
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posted February 09, 2012 10:18 PM
We open up to you.
We tell you things we have told very few people.
We can support you through a lot of heavy crap.
We have your back.
We keep things to ourselves, when trying to figure them out (worrisome things); at last I used to. I wouldn't want to put my worries on someone else, and wouldn't want anyone else to assume anything about you, just because we were fighting.
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posted February 09, 2012 10:28 PM
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I think you don't actually need to play games or test people to gather how trustworthy they are and how they feel about you.
I have to agree with this--about any sign. People justify this notion of 'game playing' as this whole 'people are unreliable' type of idea. It is really about insecurity. We are all insecure, afraid of being vulnerable...etc. These are our thoughts, feelings, emotions. It is up to us to respond to them. The test is really for us, not for other people. Many relationships are lost for that reason. Easy to say "if it didn't survive, wasn't worth it"--not true. Many amazing people and relationships are snuffed out because of personal insecurities. My exp. with Scorp. asc has been pretty positive, actually. Probably moreso than Scorp. sun. IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2012 10:29 PM
Its an aspect that I absolutely cannot relate to. I'm not feeling that jive I have four feet and a tail, and I only understand the literal Tell it like it is, the way it is, and all that is on your mind, or forever hold your peace "Does this dress make me look fat?" "Yeah. It kind of does"  Stop texting me or suddenly cease conversing and I have no choice but to assume that everything is just cool lol Not respond to my question means to me that you don't care what choice I make Play mind games and I'll drop kick and punt you like a football down the field and make you somebody else's problem. I absolutely cannot equate mind games to the concept of "honesty." To me, omission/obfuscation of information is blatantly dishonest. Stashing information is not being "open." That's exactly what I did to the last Scorpio (sun) girl I dated. I don't get power trips in relationships. Want the upper hand, or afraid about not having the upper hand, just don't get into a relationship. Insecurity is a problem that exist between your chair and your keyboard. Its an inherent personal weakness. I would never allow someone to take their own inadequacies out on me. Go fix yourself before you even speak to me. Power and control just doesn't jive with affection in my book. I have a marriage of two dominant, strong, highly confident personalities, both ever so willing to yield and cede control. Honestly, try to control me and I will *crush* you. I feel so incredibly blessed to have my Leo wife. At least I know very well when she's pi$$ed off, because the whole neighborhood would know too IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2012 11:14 PM
Everything described here is so spot on! I experienced ALL of this with a Scorpio moon. He would always tell me he loved me, over the phone, or through text. I MAYBE heard him say it when we were actually together once or twice. The games... the games drove me to have a breakdown, and still he refused to budge. I gave up at that point and it was hard, I loved him so much and I could see how much pain he was in himself, but I didn't know what else to do so I left. I'm sure he paint the town red for a little bit with all my secrets but oh well. I'm now friends with someone who is a Scorpio rising and has Pluto in the first as well. I can see the controlling nature in him, I detect the possessiveness but he's a Libra sun and Pisces moon as well. Not sure how that aids in the personality or harms it but he so far has been patient and kind towards me. It's not a romantic relationship though so maybe that's different. I thought they are supposed to be hard to read but maybe because of my past relationship I can see right through him for the most part. I would never, ever date him. He'd drive me nuts with his clinginess. He probably gets turned on by holding his s/o and crying together. IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2012 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by teasel:
We keep things to ourselves, when trying to figure them out (worrisome things); at last I used to. I wouldn't want to put my worries on someone else, and wouldn't want anyone else to assume anything about you, just because we were fighting.
THIS. This drove me nuts. I like to help people, I like to listen to them if they're worried or stressed. This is how I "love", and he wouldn't ever tell me how he really truly felt about anything. He bottled it up and it destroyed such a positive connection. He must've liked something about me though, he would text me alllll day and then call me for a little bit, and then go do something and then call me after that for our nightly chats that lasted for hours. I never understood it so I figured he was getting something out of it that I didn't know about. I mean I'm pretty awesome but only for so long... IP: Logged |
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posted February 09, 2012 11:35 PM
Trusting and opening up, imo.------------------
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posted February 09, 2012 11:37 PM
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THIS. This drove me nuts. I like to help people, I like to listen to them if they're worried or stressed. This is how I "love", and he wouldn't ever tell me how he really truly felt about anything. He bottled it up and it destroyed such a positive connection. He must've liked something about me though, he would text me alllll day and then call me for a little bit, and then go do something and then call me after that for our nightly chats that lasted for hours. I never understood it so I figured he was getting something out of it that I didn't know about. I mean I'm pretty awesome but only for so long...
Oh, but I said above that I would tell the person involved, I just wouldn't talk to my mother about it. I talk more with others now, but I wanted to be fair to the person I was having any troubles with.
I don't play games. I don't like people messing with me, and won't mess with them. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted February 09, 2012 11:48 PM
I wonder if the Taurean descendant plays into it, as well as aspects to, or placement of, Venus.
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