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Topic: In a guy/girl relationship...
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L0veLess Knowflake Posts: 711 From: Midgard Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 10, 2012 05:47 AM
Usually when comparing mars and venus signs its the guys mars having to match well with the girls venus. For Example: A guy with aries mars and girl with leo venus. That matches good, but then the girl has cancer mars and the guy has aquarius venus which are incompatible. How much would that affect them romantically/sexually, attraction and all that not having the girls mars compatible with the boy's venus?Why do we just throw out the whole notion of a girls mars having to match the guys venus? ------------------ I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.-Poe If the truth is relative then there's nothing that is really true. IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4119 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted February 10, 2012 06:05 AM
Actually we don't throw it out. It's a girl's Mars that is matched against the guy's Venus primarily for sexual attraction. Her Mars shows what she likes in a man (whom she is attracted to). His Venus shows what he likes in a woman (whom she is attracted to). But attraction alone is half the story. The guy's Moon for instance will tell what he considers his ideal woman partner (emotionally at least if not sexually). And so on so forth.
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aquaguy91 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: maryville,tn,usa Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 10, 2012 06:06 AM
quote: Originally posted by L0veLess: Usually when comparing mars and venus signs its the guys mars having to match well with the girls venus. For Example: A guy with aries mars and girl with leo venus. That matches good, but then the girl has cancer mars and the guy has aquarius venus which are incompatible. How much would that affect them romantically/sexually, attraction and all that not having the girls mars compatible with the boy's venus?Why do we just throw out the whole notion of a girls mars having to match the guys venus?
ultimately all the compatible signs stuff doesnt matter that much atleast from what i have seen,my chart is full of aqua and i have been involved with girls with libra heavy charts where our mars and venus were in compatible signs but our synastry was full of squares and other hard aspects,i mainly look at synastry now ,not saying that the mars venus thing doesnt play an important role,thats just been my experience. IP: Logged |
L0veLess Knowflake Posts: 711 From: Midgard Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 10, 2012 06:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by anongrl10: Actually we don't throw it out. It's a girl's Mars that is matched against the guy's Venus primarily for sexual attraction. Her Mars shows what she likes in a man (whom she is attracted to). His Venus shows what he likes in a woman (whom she is attracted to). But attraction alone is half the story. The guy's Moon for instance will tell what he considers his ideal woman partner (emotionally at least if not sexually). And so on so forth.
ahhh i forgot about that! hah thanks. but then i heard too like if the girls mars is like cancer then she'd be attracted to cancer type men right? like cancer sun's too not only men with venus in cancer or water signs right?
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anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4119 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted February 10, 2012 06:16 AM
The thing is squares in synastry can add to the sexual attraction so even though it might make an harmonious long-term relationship hard to occur, it can help two people get together become attracted or fascinated by each other -if only for just a fling. IP: Logged |
L0veLess Knowflake Posts: 711 From: Midgard Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 10, 2012 06:17 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: ultimately all the compatible signs stuff doesnt matter that much atleast from what i have seen,my chart is full of aqua and i have been involved with girls with libra heavy charts where our mars and venus were in compatible signs but our synastry was full of squares and other hard aspects,i mainly look at synastry now ,not saying that the mars venus thing doesnt play an important role,thats just been my experience.
yea, they say hard aspects are sometimes better than trines because with easy aspects yu might get lazy cos its so smooth running and with squares yu can learn something and grow more from it :]
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SaggiMC Knowflake Posts: 999 From: UK Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 10, 2012 10:40 AM
Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html when you get this chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left should be *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up the aspect grid –at a glance planet to planet. Post the whole PDF file, what we are looking for if scroll down to ‘partner comparison’ aspect gridPlease remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% as the max orb between planets is 3'
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athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 725 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted February 10, 2012 01:40 PM
You won't want to rip each others clothes off. I'll give you an example where I couldn't even talk around someone when we first spoke to each other and I wanted to sleep with him right then and there. My Venus Gemini 14 My SN Virgo 16 His Mars Virgo 14 His Venus Virgo 13 His Uranus Sagittarius 14 His Chiron Gemini 14 IP: Logged |
anongrl10 Knowflake Posts: 4119 From: Registered: Sep 2011
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posted February 10, 2012 02:58 PM
^^ Your Mars?IP: Logged |
athenegoddess Knowflake Posts: 725 From: Registered: Aug 2011
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posted February 10, 2012 03:02 PM
My Mars is at 22 Pisces.IP: Logged |
Lotis White Knowflake Posts: 253 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 10, 2012 10:38 PM
When Venus and Mars are aspecting it really doesn’t matter which one is the Mars and which one is the Women…. Attraction can occur either way…Hard aspects are passionate and volatile… while soft aspects are warm, easy going, and sweet… I’ve heard some astrologers claim that it’s actually better for a man’s Mars to aspect the women’s Venus…. Because he can act out his masculine ideal (his Mars) for her…. While she can act out her feminine ideal (her Venus) for him… Then there’s another camp of astrologers that claim having her Mars aspected by his Venus is better… because then she can have her masculine ideal activated by him, while he has his feminine ideal is activated by her… But the overall truth is that there is no confirmed consensus on which one is ‘better’. Different astrologers have different opinions…. My personal observation is that BOTH ways work…. The Mars person is attracted to Venus in a passionate, raw kind of way. Mars sees Venus as a beautiful, exquisite creature! To Mars, Venus possesses immense attractive power and sensual allure… And Mars often just wants to run up and grab Venus in a frisson of intensity…. Mars may put the Venus person on a pedestal, and often adores them for the gentle, loving side of their nature… Mars wants to chase and take Venus… to win the Venus person’s attention, love and respect… The Venus person sees Mars as hot and exciting. Venus may find themselves melting into an affectionate, gooey puddle in response to the Mars person’s impressive sex appeal….. The Venus may greatly admire the Mars person for their forceful energy, and Mars brings out Venus‘ sweet, touchy feely, sensual side… Venus feels to urge to yield for Mars, and often has a loving, accommodating attitude towards the Mars person… Which aspect is better depends on which role you want to take in the relationship… Also, are we just talking having Venus and Mars in compatible signs, or are we talking actual aspects between these two planets…. Because Venus and Mars may not actually ‘feel’ each other in synastry if they are not aspecting within an orb of about five degrees or less…. If they are in compatible signs, but they are not aspecting, there may be a general harmony present in the sense that you both have similar attitudes about relationships…. But the ‘energy’ of attraction itself comes from actual aspects between these planets… And there are also many other aspects in astrology that cause physical attraction…. So it there is not Venus/Mars aspect by degree and attraction is there… then some other synastry aspect is the culprit… like Mars/Moon, Sun/Moon, Pluto/Venus, Uranus/Venus, Pluto/Mars, Sun/Mars, Venus/Moon, Sun/Venus … and the Asc in aspect to Venus or Mars… the list goes on…
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Lotis White Knowflake Posts: 253 From: USA Registered: Dec 2010
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posted February 10, 2012 11:23 PM
Oh, and also Venus/Venus and Mars/Mars aspects can work attraction as well...
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aquaguy91 Knowflake Posts: 245 From: maryville,tn,usa Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 10, 2012 11:24 PM
quote: Originally posted by L0veLess: yea, they say hard aspects are sometimes better than trines because with easy aspects yu might get lazy cos its so smooth running and with squares yu can learn something and grow more from it :]
yea it does add to sexual attraction when hard aspects are involved,it always seems the people im the most into that the synastry is crappy and things always go down the toilet,but when i have good synastry with someone it seems like theres no spark,relationships are just a headache no matter how you look at it haha IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2481 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted February 10, 2012 11:29 PM
I've had exact Venus-Mars conjunctions in the past where I was Venus. I found the Mars person too selfcentred and aggressive although it was always sexualy attractive in the initial stages. Something just didn't feel right. They didn't actually understand my sexual desires and everything about me that is feminine. They were toot much like a bull in a China shop. I'm seeing a guy now who has Venus and Mars conj in Taurus. I have Venus in Taurus trine Mars in Capricorn. In synastry our Venus/Mars aspects are completely out of orb. But for whatever reason we're much closer and more in sync on all levels - physically and emotionally. This could be either because natal aspects count in compatibility and since we both have venus&mars in earth we're just so similar regardless of the degrees. Or it could be because the Mars/Venus conjunction (his mars/my ven) is close and applying in the progressed chart - which I didn't have with the other guys. It might also be significant that we have an exact minor aspect between my Mars & his Venus - the sesquisquare (sp?). Also there were other aspects involved in my past synastries that might've ruined the attraction for us. So from my perspective it's not always all about the orbs in synastry. The progressed chart and the composite chart are also important.. and sometimes having shared affinities (similar aspects in your individual natal charts) can be a source of attraction regardless of whether or not you have the aspect in synastry. For example I have Venus in aspects to Mars & Pluto and I often attract people who have similar Venus aspects, sometimes in signs very different to my own. The other thing is - exact conjunctions involving planets traditionally considered malefic, like Mars and benefics like Venus only benefit the malefic planet in my experience. I actually prefer having some distance between these two planets when they are in the same sign because you are still attracted but you also have the detachment necessary to have a conversation and respect each others qualities aside from sex. With the close conjunction the Mars person is so attracted that they cannot get two words out around Venus and generally treats Venus in a very animalistic fashion. Venus doesn't take well to this and can feel intimidated. IP: Logged |
L0veLess Knowflake Posts: 711 From: Midgard Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 10, 2012 11:35 PM
wow really nice info lotus! i wanna save it or something haha. What about if venus and venus are conj or mars and mars?------------------ I became insane, with long intervals of horrible sanity.-Poe If the truth is relative then there's nothing that is really true. IP: Logged |
L0veLess Knowflake Posts: 711 From: Midgard Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 11, 2012 01:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Betty Boop: I've had exact Venus-Mars conjunctions in the past where I was Venus. I found the Mars person too selfcentred and aggressive although it was always sexualy attractive in the initial stages. Something just didn't feel right. They didn't actually understand my sexual desires and everything about me that is feminine. They were toot much like a bull in a China shop. I'm seeing a guy now who has Venus and Mars conj in Taurus. I have Venus in Taurus trine Mars in Capricorn. In synastry our Venus/Mars aspects are completely out of orb. But for whatever reason we're much closer and more in sync on all levels - physically and emotionally. This could be either because natal aspects count in compatibility and since we both have venus&mars in earth we're just so similar regardless of the degrees. Or it could be because the Mars/Venus conjunction (his mars/my ven) is close and applying in the progressed chart - which I didn't have with the other guys. It might also be significant that we have an exact minor aspect between my Mars & his Venus - the sesquisquare (sp?). Also there were other aspects involved in my past synastries that might've ruined the attraction for us. So from my perspective it's not always all about the orbs in synastry. The progressed chart and the composite chart are also important.. and sometimes having shared affinities (similar aspects in your individual natal charts) can be a source of attraction regardless of whether or not you have the aspect in synastry. For example I have Venus in aspects to Mars & Pluto and I often attract people who have similar Venus aspects, sometimes in signs very different to my own. The other thing is - exact conjunctions involving planets traditionally considered malefic, like Mars and benefics like Venus only benefit the malefic planet in my experience. I actually prefer having some distance between these two planets when they are in the same sign because you are still attracted but you also have the detachment necessary to have a conversation and respect each others qualities aside from sex. With the close conjunction the Mars person is so attracted that they cannot get two words out around Venus and generally treats Venus in a very animalistic fashion. Venus doesn't take well to this and can feel intimidated.
so sometimes mars and venus dont understand each other because feminine and masculine want different things. I was wooondering too about those minor aspects! I mean they are minor but they have to mean something or else why have them? I saw a venus and mars quintile. I wonder what that means. IP: Logged |
L0veLess Knowflake Posts: 711 From: Midgard Registered: Feb 2011
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posted February 11, 2012 01:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: yea it does add to sexual attraction when hard aspects are involved,it always seems the people im the most into that the synastry is crappy and things always go down the toilet,but when i have good synastry with someone it seems like theres no spark,relationships are just a headache no matter how you look at it haha
lol yesss. the people im supposed to be good with its just BLAH! no spark like ya say. IP: Logged |