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lindisfarne
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posted February 11, 2012 04:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been awhile since I posted.
Would like some insight on what to do about my situation..

In my eyes, my current boyfriend (?!?!) acts like a Capricorn. Not a Gemini. He has Cap rising and Mars in house 1. Point is I cant take his controlling behavior. It was subtle in the beginning. But now it's overblown. He doesnt seem to think it's a problem. I've confronted him.. he doesn't think its an issue. 

Its always gotta be done in his way on his time in his own terms. If I ask for something he will agree but it will be done in his own little way on his own little time. It got so bad, that very recently I ended things. It was hard to do but it wasn't as hard as he made it. I asked for my things back.. he decided to be unwilling and difficult, delaying things and playing games. I called him that day to ask what was going on, and he acted fine as if nothing happened, and said we were not breaking up, that we still together etc and that he loves me and doesn't get why I am trying to break up. Went as far to accuse me of finding someone else when that wasn't the case.

I love him, would like this to work out but Christ.. he is a control freak. There are other things that have occurred in the relationship to confirm this. I want to know what to do, how to get him to change his controlling ways. He always wants to make decisions. It's "cute" if I have ideas but he seems to believe he calls the shots. He is highly dominant, and there are times where I have been afraid of him. I don't know what else to do. How can I handle this? He will do anything to control the situation and he has a hard time accepting rejection of any kind from me..

I don't know if he is mentally ill or what I'm not trying to be rude but it's alarming. He will not accept a breakup. He doesn't see how it could be, if he doesn't see it = it has not happen and it will not happen. He will spin and find ways to grab hold of a situation. Is this because he doesn't trust me or it's just his nature?

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posted February 11, 2012 05:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Repeat to him one more time "it's over" and if he asks "why" you repeat "because I'm not happy with you". Then, leave, hang up the phone, forget about your things, change your number, never contact him again. It takes time for people like him to "get" it and he will never accept it anyway as this is exactly this little game (or illness). My last ex was like that and guess what? He stalked me for months after the breakup. If you're serious about breaking up, stop the explanations, and cut all associations with him now. Good luck.

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posted February 11, 2012 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
do some of them just like to control everything or what?
he doesn't act like a gem.
the breakup was awhile ago, i ended it and he tried to control that too! he said he would change so I gave him another chance.. but he's back to the controlling behavior. that's the one complaint against him I have.

I have never dated anyone with cap placements and it seems more active with him compared to his sun sign

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posted February 11, 2012 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It has nothing to do with astrology - when control is an obsession you need to be firm, stop calling him, or responding to his calls, change your number, etc. you get the gist from my post above.

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posted February 11, 2012 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's not an astrology thing. He has serious problems. Leave. Don't ever stay in a controlling relationship.

The fact that he is telling you that you're not breaking up and that you are still together even though you broke up with him tells me that he is very controlling, he will turn abusive, and he has something wrong with him. He sounds like an obsessed stalker. Run, don't look back, and don't give him ANY indication whatsoever that you will go back to him. Be ruthless and cold.

Do NOT stay with him. Abuse is inevitable here.

I'm noticing this pattern with Cancer-influenced guys in different stories from different people on this forum. It seems to disproportionately happen with them.

He has NO RIGHT to control you. Get out now, before it's too late and you're stuck there forever.

I don't mean to be bossy, but this guy clearly has problems and he is sending alarm bells ringing.

He's manipulating you. Don't take your feelings of love seriously. He's using that to control you and get you to do what he wants.

And, like anon said, don't respond to his calls, don't answer him. Her advice was good here.

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posted February 11, 2012 05:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will also say that fear should NEVER be a part of a healthy relationship.

In all honesty, he is giving you VERY clear red flags and warning signs. Don't let emotions lead you down a dangerous path.

A healthy relationship would be one in which both partners respected each other's decisions and choices (within reason--obviously I'm not referring to unhealthy decisions). A healthy relationship has people sharing leadership and, while people may take the lead in different areas, ultimately it all evens out and the power is balanced between the two people.

You deserve to be in a relationship where you are free to be yourself and when your individual rights are respected and honored.

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posted February 11, 2012 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
It's not an astrology thing. He has serious problems. Leave. Don't ever stay in a controlling relationship.

The fact that he is telling you that you're not breaking up and that you are still together even though you broke up with him tells me that he is very controlling, he will turn abusive, and he has something wrong with him. He sounds like an obsessed stalker. Run, don't look back, and don't give him ANY indication whatsoever that you will go back to him. Be ruthless and cold.

Do NOT stay with him. Abuse is inevitable here.

I'm noticing this pattern with Cancer-influenced guys in different stories from different people on this forum. It seems to disproportionately happen with them.

He has NO RIGHT to control you. Get out now, before it's too late and you're stuck there forever.

I don't mean to be bossy, but this guy clearly has problems and he is sending alarm bells ringing.

He's manipulating you. Don't take your feelings of love seriously. He's using that to control you and get you to do what he wants.

And, like anon said, don't respond to his calls, don't answer him. Her advice was good here.


You are noticing this pattern with cancer influenced people? Do you have any links? It would be helpful.

Yeah you are right.. that's why I broke up or tried to in the first time

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posted February 11, 2012 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lindisfarne:
You are noticing this pattern with cancer influenced people? Do you have any links? It would be helpful.

Yeah you are right.. that's why I broke up or tried to in the first time


I don't have links, but it's just something that I noticed from other posts on the forum. Mainly with men.

I would say that to be fair, a HEALTHY Cancer-influenced person would be able to tame the negative influences or wouldn't feel them as strongly. My pastor, while I certainly have had disagreements with him, is not a controlling type and he is very sweet with his family and wife. If I were to find out he is controlling, I honestly would be shocked. (He has Venus in Cancer, in the 10th house). My guess is that he's one of the healthier types.

I would also wonder if a first-house Mars would make someone more aggressive. I seem to recall someone mentioning that idea, but offhand I can't remember the thread.

Also, does he have a lot of squares to Mars in his chart? (I'm thinking maybe this could indicate anger/control issues)? Or Pluto?

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posted February 11, 2012 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Something else that I noticed:

I myself have a Cancer moon, in the 8th. In whole signs, his moon would be in the 7th. (I don't use Placidus, so I'm not sure where his Moon would be in your system).

I notice that I tend to want control over 8th-house issues.

I'm wondering, though: is it the 8th house that speaks of where a person wants control?

If it is, you might want to look there.

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posted February 11, 2012 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
a lot of opposition with his mars in Capricorn first house and his cancer placements. As well as his Cap ascendant.

He doesn't have any pluto afflictions not that I'm aware of. I don't see why he acts like this.

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posted February 11, 2012 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I remember correctly he has Venus in house 7 cancer, Moon in Cancer house 4, or 5. Moon opposite Mars as well as Venus Opposite Mars.

I read it's because they are insecure so they feel the need to control others.

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posted February 11, 2012 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So far he has yet to be physically aggressive towards me. He claims he would never put his hands on me or use his size against me. I believe him. Judging from how he is, and how he was raised I dont think he will do this. And besides he seems to really not like my father for the reason that my father was physically abusive with my mother.

What DOES alarm me.. I seriously just thought it was a Gemini thing.. I'm not sure if it is conscious or if it is a marker of something serious, but when he is told something, centered around rejection of any kind he will say he understands but... hours later he will go back to doing the opposite of what he is told. I don't know what that is about. I really don't. He's done this three times. Once when I met him - friendship, I asked to be friends. he really wanted more. he agreed and than acted like what I said didn't happen. he did the same thing when I tried to break up with him, he acted like it didn't happen he didn't understand why I was doing this, and said we were actually fine and asked me to think about it and make things worse.. the third time, I don't really remember but it's happened.

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posted February 11, 2012 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindisfarne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He is possessive too. I tried to deny the control part but it really hit me the other day.

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posted February 11, 2012 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
since there's a thin line between love and hate, we'll transfer this to Soul Unions

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