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Topic: Whitney Houston passed away
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Lonake
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posted February 13, 2012 10:02 PM
  
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Originally posted by Libreo:
It's all relative. They have to grow up without a mom.
No, it's more sad to lose a child than a parent. Fact.
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Lonake
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posted February 13, 2012 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
[B]Not trying to be morbid, but I'm looking at the chart at face value and I see so many similarities.
Hi YTA hope you don't get too excited here, what Whitney had, among others, was Neptune Scorp as ASC ruler in H8 sq her Leo Sun/Venus in her 6th. Venus was also her H8 ruler (of death). Etc. there were various astro factors involved in her death that were v.personal to her chart and the way her houses were aligned, solar arcs, transits, etc. And most of all her choices. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted February 13, 2012 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by Lonake:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Libreo:
[b]It's all relative. They have to grow up without a mom.
No, it's more sad to lose a child than a parent. Fact.[/B][/QUOTE]I don't know about this because my kids would be devastated if I died. IP: Logged |
Libreo
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posted February 13, 2012 10:11 PM
Not a competition Lonake. And I'm not disputing that to loose a child is the SADDEST thing in the entire world, what I am saying is that to lose a person someone loves is sad. Let's just be respectful. Kids need their moms too.IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted February 13, 2012 10:13 PM
Whitney's daughter has actually been in the hospital twice since she died; she's not taking it well.IP: Logged |
Libreo
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posted February 13, 2012 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
I don't know about this because my kids would be devastated if I died.
And if I died my 2 would be separated from one another. Different fathers ( 8 year age gap) and neither one of them has their Dad so who knows what would happen. Their entire worlds would be transformed. I am their rock.IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted February 13, 2012 10:20 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Whitney's daughter has actually been in the hospital twice since she died; she's not taking it well.
Yes and I'd probably be in the hospital too if my children died. This is no competition. None of this would be positive. Kids or parents dying. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted February 13, 2012 10:24 PM
Well if everyone knew what death was then nobody would be devastated after someone died. The egyptians spent their entire lives preparing for death and they had a very profound grasp on it unlike our society. IP: Logged |
Libreo
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posted February 13, 2012 10:24 PM
If anything happened to mine I don't even want to say out loud what I'd do. Losing a child is unthinkable. Completely unimaginable and unnatural. But that doesn't negate the grief of anyone who looses a loved one who is an adult. Their pain is very real too.IP: Logged |
Libreo
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posted February 13, 2012 10:26 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Well if everyone knew what death was then nobody would be devastated after someone died. The egyptians spent their entire lives preparing for death and they had a very profound grasp on it unlike our society.
I'm not afraid of my own death, and I know that if someone I loved died (touch wood, I haven't lost anyone yet, at 38) I know they are in a good place. But I would miss them and I would have a hard time readjusting. I guess that's what grief really is, finding it hard to go on without someone and missing them.IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted February 13, 2012 10:27 PM
But they never go anywhere. They are always with us. I guess thats why people should be more spiritual.IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted February 13, 2012 10:27 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Well if everyone knew what death was then nobody would be devastated after someone died. The egyptians spent their entire lives preparing for death and they had a very profound grasp on it unlike our society.
This is only understandable for the very spiritually aware. There's a sense of peace instead of panic, but it also depends very much on the way the human being died.
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athenegoddess
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posted February 13, 2012 10:28 PM
Yes well it doesn't matter how they go. Just that they were ready to.IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted February 13, 2012 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yes well it doesn't matter how they go. Just that they were ready to.
Do you think a child like Casey Anthony was "ready" to go? And to go the way she did? I don't think so. Neither did the thousands of mourners who cried x amount of tears and turned their back lights on for her justice. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted February 13, 2012 10:33 PM
Yes I do. Her death was written in her birth chart. Using her as an example is pointless because what about all the other innocent chidren that die? This universe is mysterious but never believe nothing doesn't happen that wasn't meant to. Everything unravels in the perfect sequence as all is predetermined. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted February 13, 2012 10:34 PM
Being spiritual does not mean having no compassion. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted February 13, 2012 10:35 PM
I do have compassion.I just think if people understood things more, pain would be obsolete. IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted February 13, 2012 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I do have compassion.I just think if people understood things more, pain would be obsolete.
It's yin and yang. Can't have one without the other. IP: Logged |
FireWire
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posted February 13, 2012 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Being spiritual does not mean having no compassion.
Thank you, so much. Grief is very much part of the human experience, regardless of what the cause of it is. If anything, being 'spiritual' or 'ascended' should allow one to understand the universality of the human experience and the human condition. Extending compassion and being empathetic is undoubtedly a part of 'that path' so to speak. IP: Logged |
athenegoddess
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posted February 13, 2012 10:38 PM
I don't understand why you think im being insensitive. lol.Are people incapable of objective rational discussions? IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted February 13, 2012 10:38 PM
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Originally posted by FireWire:
Thank you.
Amen! IP: Logged |
ariesdragon
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posted February 13, 2012 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I don't understand why you think im being insensitive. lol.Are people incapable of rational discussions?
It's not rational to think pain would ever be obsolete in this world. We are made to feel and that's how we can love.
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athenegoddess
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posted February 13, 2012 10:43 PM
It isn't obsolete because we wouldn't exist. But it's time to evolve now. I live for today and I think knowing what happens when a person dies is something evolved beings will only know.IP: Logged |
FireWire
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posted February 13, 2012 11:05 PM
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
I don't understand why you think im being insensitive. lol.Are people incapable of objective rational discussions?
Athenegoddess, I actually really like you, a lot. There is nothing wrong with objective rational discussion, at all. I probably have a bit of a reputation around here for infusing such--all the time, lol (esp. when not asked). For most people to be inclined to engage in such critical inquiry, it can't not be presented in a way that makes people feel unevolved or less than if they don't subscribe to the ideology or school of thought. I mean, I understand exactly where you come from. I've had such conversations with people who are hardcore Christians, Muslims...etc, and not had a moment of argument, because I try to understand how they feel and experience this life. We are all on our different paths and here to learn our individualized lessons at a rate of growth that unique us--I am actually learning this myself, right now. This is not necessarily about your intent but how people might feel regarding the way you broach certain topics. So, I think it is less of people thinking you are insensitive, generally speaking. I think you quite sensitive actually and I think you have very clear mind that is really something to behold. This is moreso about the tone and general presentation that might make some people uncomfortable and less likely to engage in an openminded, fruitful discussion about some of the perspectives you present. I say this to say (and be very clear) that I KNOW you bring up these things because you actually 'do' care, despite how it might seem, sometimes.  So, lets all just get along and respect each other. Obviously, we can't always have this in 'real life,' but what a unique opportunity we have to foster it here. You never know just who is really sitting behind that computer screen. Evolution can be a collective process, just know that we are all at different places--and that is ok. It is supposed to be this way!
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Libreo
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posted February 13, 2012 11:47 PM
I can totally see both sides of this 'debate'. So I say nothing :-)IP: Logged |
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