posted February 24, 2012 12:32 AM            

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:

Lastly, by making the effort to post the correct charts AND aspect grid will ensure that you are serious in your enquiry and will guarantee (from me at least) a serious response……if you are simply here to get a freebie or are just curious but can’t be bothered to make the effort to post the correct charts then I won’t bother making an effort to delineate them.

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ROTFL Hello SaggiMC VenusdeIndia has been around Lindaland for a very long time and knows her work WELL I doubt she is here for a freebie

posted February 24, 2012 03:39 AM            

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I remember our common friend Venus_in_Gemini telling me that she just could not look into Prak's eyes in the wedding pics. She detected his evil intent in micro seconds.

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Well ... Venusingemini would .

She was his wife who he abused. I would like to see her synastry with him as well but she isnt around here these days

Doreen, thanks for the welcome honey .

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Loved the thread about your parents synastry

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Well.... who'd have thought with that kind of parental background I'd end up in a mess like this...

posted February 25, 2012 01:29 AM            

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Originally posted by VenusdeIndia:
Here is the composite

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I'm confused now... because I read before that someone said a sun.... mercury... venus conjunction in the comp. chart signifies the most loving relationship of your life.... I'm confused but um I'm learning.....

I wish the both of you the best though.

posted February 25, 2012 01:41 AM            

Courtesy of astro.com

Composite:
"Mars Conjunct Saturn

The conjunction of Mars and Saturn in a composite chart can be quite difficult to deal with, especially in a personal relationship. The basic principle of these planets together is blocked action. In a relationship, the symptoms of this are feelings of frustration and futility by one or both of you.

In a Mars-Saturn relationship each of you is constantly getting in the way of the other's ego-drives. There may be cutting remarks, sarcasm, digs, and other tactics, but never an honest confrontation.

Another result of this aspect in a sexual relationship is that one of you is always "hot" while the other is "cold." One feels loving while the other feels distant.

posted February 25, 2012 03:29 AM            

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Originally posted by IamLoved:
I'm confused now... because I read before that someone said a sun.... mercury... venus conjunction in the comp. chart signifies the most loving relationship of your life.... I'm confused but um I'm learning.....

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Hi, IamLoved! Read pages 2 and 3 of this thread to understand how the love stellium can be related to abuse, which is what you were wondering about....

Here is the thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002840-3.html

posted February 25, 2012 04:47 AM            

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I'm confused now... because I read before that someone said a sun.... mercury... venus conjunction in the comp. chart signifies the most loving relationship of your life.... I'm confused but um I'm learning.....

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posted February 25, 2012 05:46 AM            

The above aspect confirms the past life story I regressed in a single shot.

His dr. Mars conjuncts my natal Dejanira and Ascendent.

His dr. Pluto conjuncts my dr. Nessus and natal Pholus.

His dr. Eris conjuncts my Saturn

.... I need to catch my breath. sigh.

posted February 25, 2012 05:46 AM            

He totally blinded you, didn´t he?

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His DR nessus square your your N mars
His DR nessus conj your SN

Your DR nessus square his N eros 0-1
Your DR nessus square his N nessus 2-3
Your DR nessus opp his N pluto 0-1
Your N nessus conj his N valentine

Your DR pluto conj his N nessus
Your DR pluto conj his N eros
Your DR pluto opp his DR nessus
Your DR pluto square his N pluto

The composite and 9,11,12 degree in cancer including sun, mercury, venus (house 6)

posted February 25, 2012 07:55 AM            

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And again his Neptune-Kaali-opposition is pronounced, this time exactly square your Sun (which of course is conjunct your tropical ASC).

He totally blinded you, didn´t he?

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C O M P L E T E L Y

I cant say this enough, BEWARE Neptune in synastry. I was blinded since the first day I met him, as a trained healer/mentalist I would have seen thru him if not for this, my brother certainly did but i ignored him .

I was not only blinded by him when I got engaged but also while we were married and was abusing me in every conceivable way.

My blindness ended last September - October when Nessus made that important transit and IQ made so many threads about Nessus and abuse in that period.

Until then, I was , honest to God BLINDED and I am not as dumb as that sounds believe me.

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Good you not are in this relationship. I must say this was the worst I ever seen.

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Okay let me put a picture to how bad it really was.

Imagine Sleeping with the Enemy.

Multiply it by 100.

That was my reality,every day for 2 years.

I am REALLY,REALLY shocked at how pronounced the Nessus theme is in this relationship.

Its almost barbarically hysterical, I was so blinded I didn't check our synastry, composite or even his natals. I chose to follow my feelings and trust that he meant when he said that he loved my passionately.

This is something I think only karma can explain. His love for me was corrupted by his own inhuman deeds towards VIG and thus came to fruition in the form of our Nessus action.

Until a few months ago I honestly NEVER imagines that Centaurs could hold so MUCH influence. If we omit Nessus you can't imagine the rest of the aspects would imply such pain.

Every day was a little more slow poison coursing thru my blood. But I was Neptunised, in love. Even in those rare moments that lucidity came knocking an inner voice told me that this was needed.

But, even if I had checked our synastry, Nessus was not something we discussed here two years ago. So basically .

posted February 25, 2012 12:53 PM            

I think you did the only right. You followed your heart. I think our lifes experiences sometimes are meant to be. If you not met him in this life Im sure you will meet him in another life.

You must be a very strong woman.

posted February 25, 2012 04:25 PM            

"I cant say this enough, BEWARE Neptune in synastry."
I understand how you come to this conclusion, especially in the light of your experience.

Personally I cannot second this completely. I`d rather say:

BEWARE of Neptune`s challenging aspects to personal planets and angles.

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BEWARE of Neptune`s harmonious aspects, if at he same time harsh aspects of Mars, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto and Nessus to personal planets and angles are present.

I DO think however that harmonious Neptune aspects in a generally harmonious synastry chart can be very beautiful and spiritual.

"I am not as dumb as that sounds believe me. "
I know you are not dumb. You were "glamoured / blinded". And that is something that can happen to anyone.

"If we omit Nessus you can't imagine the rest of the aspects would imply such pain."
I remember three guys where my alarm bells suddenly shrilled; in two cases I never even had closer contact to them, and yet my subconscious was suddenly running like a seismograph; in one case I cut contact IMMEDIATELY after meeting him physically (after an extended time of online conversations and hours of talking through the phone).
In one case I was having the most tragic and awful past life recall ever.
In the case of the one I cut contact with, I felt like I was probably so unfair to him and overdramatizing things (they all seemed pretty decent nice guys, and there had been nothing done to me). My reaction was simply based on the fact that the alarmbell was shrilling so loudly inside my head and all my senses were in "emergency-attention mode" all at once. Adrenaline and flight instinct purely. Totally overdramatic, but for once I listened to that instinct, and as I said, I cut all contact and communication, even changed my mobile and home phone number.

I am not normally a Drama Queen, but after having done that, I felt like I had "just" survived in a fight on life and death and the safety of my soul.
It still puzzles me how I could react that extremely, and I repeat it, the guy never did anything to deserve such a reaction.

In the case of the "real life guy", this is the chart (I will take them down, if this derails your thread too much, just let me know)

What you can`t see here: his mars opposes my Dejanira with 2 degrees.

The one I have had the past life recall about

The "unknown" one

I found the aspects of Nessus and Kaali to personal planets and Dejanira and also Mars/Dejanira and Nessus/Venus
pretty interesting.

posted February 25, 2012 06:21 PM            

Anytime a planet squares the nodes, it's karmic. There is so much karma between the two of you. I think what you've described fits this nodal configuration perfectly, the control, the masochicism, torture. What else is there to say except RUN!

How long were you in that relationship? What was the outcome? Did either of you feel that you and he took care of any of the unfinished business between you, or was new karma created? That looks like a toughie to work out to me.

Basically, you don't want to go there again in synastry from either H1 or H7. Try to go for a trine to your nodes in synastry.

You're still going through your Saturn Rtn.
It's a very good thing that you're not going through that with him while t. Pluto's squaring your Mars now and will retrograde at 9 deg. You've certainly paid your dues, lady!

posted February 25, 2012 10:23 PM            

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This relationship looks like being build on old karma.Only old karma. You and him seems really got to pay back to each other through the marriage.
I think you did the only right. You followed your heart. I think our lifes experiences sometimes are meant to be. If you not met him in this life Im sure you will meet him in another life.

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You're right Popcorn. It was karma, I led him to believe that I was passionate about him as he was for me.

That was it.

How many girls have done that ?

Almost any girl I knew back in High school would've pulled a Britney had such a serenading, plutonic spotlight shone on them. We all crave that kind of attention, nevermind that we don't want it permanently.

For THAT I had to pay such huge price.

Kinda makes you want to go over your whole life thru a microscope doesn't it.

BUT, it was partial Karma and the rest was Samskara and LOA - all desires must meet with fruition. His desire for me was validated by my STUPID, immature approval. My real feelings didnt matter, my frivolous acceptance of his wooing is what landed me in this hell. If it hadnt been for that, even if I hadn't communicated that I dont feel the same, I wouldnt have incurred this karmic debt.

THAT is the whole point, the reason Imade this thread.

I lost 3 years of my life over something I have seen so many women/men pulling of

They have no idea, what the repercussions could be. A person hurt by them could hurt 10 other people as a way of dealing with the pain, thus indebting them for the pain experienced by ALL 11 of them

Y I K E S

The plus side here is - halfway thru the ordeal I understood what was at play here even though I didn't know the past life angle. In a conversation with my Oversoul I accepted my responsibility for the situation. I asked that whatever I go thru in this marriage, for however long be please accepted as a penance for all the hurt I have caused to every soul in all lives.

And BAM !!!

posted February 25, 2012 10:24 PM            

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This relationship looks like being build on old karma.Only old karma. You and him seems really got to pay back to each other through the marriage.
I think you did the only right. You followed your heart. I think our lifes experiences sometimes are meant to be. If you not met him in this life Im sure you will meet him in another life.

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You're right Popcorn. It was karma, I led him to believe that I was passionate about him as he was for me.

That was it.

How many girls have done that ?

Almost any girl I knew back in High school would've pulled a Britney had such a serenading, plutonic spotlight shone on them. We akll crave that kind of attention, nevermind that we don't want it permanently.

For THAT I had to pay such huge price.

Kinda makes you want to go over your whole life thru a microscope doesn't it.

BUT, it was partial Karma and the rest was Samskara and LOA - all desires must meet with fruition. His desire for me was validated by my STUPID, immature approval. My real feelings didnt matter, my frivolous acceptance of his wooing is what landed me in this hell. If it hadnt been for that, even if I hadn't communicated that I dont feel the same, I wouldnt have incurred this karmic debt.

THAT is the whole point, the reason Imade this thread.

I lost 3 years of my life over something I have seen so many women/men pulling of

They have no idea, what the repercussions could be. A person hurt by them could hurt 10 other people as a way of dealing with the pain, thus indebting them for the pain experienced by ALL 11 of them

Y I K E S

The plus side here is - halfway thru the ordeal I understood what was at play here even though I didn't know the past life angle. In a conversation with my Oversoul I accepted my responsibility for the situation. I asked that whatever I go thru in this marriage, for however long be please accepted as a penance for all the hurt I have caused to every soul in all lives.

And BAM !!!

Freedom

posted February 27, 2012 12:46 AM            

It was deja vu reading your post - I went through the _exact same thing_, and found myself getting divorced toward the end of my Saturn Return as well.

Life is strange sometimes, and when karmic events of this nature happen, we can only be grateful when our karma is done with the abuser and we are relieved and freed to move on to seek normalcy.

I know you to be a strong woman, and you will prevail. If you would like to talk about anything, I'm here for you - you know where to reach me.

posted February 27, 2012 03:33 AM            

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Personally I cannot second this completely. I`d rather say:

BEWARE of Neptune`s challenging aspects to personal planets and angles.

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I know Ceri, but its not the planet I have the issue with, its our own psyche that can fall prey to Neptune. I know I sound bitter and all but personally I wont take another synastry that has such Neptune aspects seriously unless there is an earthy influence that convinces me the dynamics are genuine.

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I found the aspects of Nessus and Kaali to personal planets and Dejanira and also Mars/Dejanira and Nessus/Venus
pretty interesting.

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Dont take the charts down Ceri, you have dodged a bullet I would say. Almost the same dynamics have minus the soulmate angle. I must say it was probably destiny or good karmas you werent blinded like me.

Sunshine9 - Thank you for your kind words girl, I really appreciate what you said.