posted February 22, 2012 11:36 AM            

I am going to take material from all my articles and from the House Rulers Series and apply them to real life issues.

A frequently asked question to an Astrologer would be “Is he a Player?”. Lets start from the beginning and talk about what we would see. First of all, I would look to see if he is a player, in general.Then, how ingrained is it. The first step would be to look at the 5th House( the House of Fun and Flings). A Player will usually have a full 5th House. In the rare cases when he does not, he has compensating factors, which we will discuss. However, the compensating factors do not make him a “real Player”, in my opinion. They may make him play, because he is good at it and it is fun. However, he is not a player, in his heart. I will explain all this, later.
Back to the 5th House. A true Player will have a full 5th House. I will use House Rulers to show you WHICH House Rulers PLACED in the 5th House will show a Player.You want to sit back and look at the forest, for a minute, here. The forest is the nature of each House. Think about which Houses a Player might reject in order to be a playboy. Think of which spheres of life he may subsume to romance. If you think logically, you will come up with certain Houses . First off, the 10th House is the House of Career and Social Reputation. It is a serious house as it is ruled by Capricorn, which is a serious sign. Capricorn is the sign which will work very hard to climb the career ladder. He majors in self discipline and deferred gratification. This House is usually “compromised” in the chart of a Player, as the Player, by nature, wants fun over sacrifice. So, the Ruler of the 10th House will, usually, be in the 5th House.

Next, think about other spheres of life which a Player may subsume to fun. The 9th House comes to mind. This is the House of the intellect, religion, higher education and philosophy. The Player usually does not have enough deferred gratification skills to be very 9th House heavy, so we find the Ruler of the 9th House, in the 5th house, often, in the charts of Players.Now, I think you are understanding more about House Rulers, as it is very logical. The next House Ruler which is, often, in the 5th House of Players, is the 8th House. The 8th House is the House of soul mates. To be a soul mate, one must be devoted to the other to the degree that there is profound intimacy. The intimacy is what defines soul mates, in my opinion. The Player is going for lack of intimacy, whether he realizes it or not. Hence, the Ruler of the 8th House is, very often, if not always, in the 5th House, in a Players Chart.Of course, we cannot forget about the 7th House, which rules committed, devoted and faithful partnerships. The Ruler of the 7th House is, very often, residing in the 5th House, in a players chart.The previous examples seem classic for a Players chart. However, other House Rulers are, often, seen in the prototypical Players Chart, as well. The Player may squelch his natural desire for spirituality and put that energy in to flings. This would be seen by the Ruler of the 12th in the 5th House. He may squelch his desire to be a member of a group. This would be the Ruler of the 11th House, in the 5th House.
Other interesting Player aspects would be Ruler of the 7th House in the 1st House. Remember that the 1st House is the House of Image. The player, often, wants a beautiful woman on his arm, to enhance his image. When the Ruler of the 7th travels to the 1st House and resides within, we have a case where the native wants to USE his partner for his image. In this case, we are talking about a committed relationship, as the 7th House is such. However, if said Player has some committed relationships, along the way, that is not unusual. In these relationships, he seeks to enhance his status with his choice of women.Another player aspect is Ruler of the 5th in the 1st. This aspect shows a person who USES his ability to be fun and romantic, in order to enhance his image. This is a classic “Love em and leave em” aspect. I think I have exhausted House Rulers in the Players Chart. Next I will go on to planets and asteroids, in a Players chart.

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posted February 22, 2012 11:37 AM            

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posted February 22, 2012 11:38 AM            

In this article, I will use planets and asteroids to answer the oft asked question, “Is he a Player?” A Player needs several kinds of planetary aspects to do his thing. Strangely enough, he needs a tenderness aspect. Who would want him if he were Shrek? He uses his tenderness as a lure. There will, always, be a tenderness aspect. One is a Water Ascendant. A Cancer Ascendant is the one I have seen, most. Cancer is the sign of nurture. The Cancer Ascendant will disarm, as it is the Ascendant of all we hold dear: mother, food, home, love, chicken soup, old family photos. You get the picture. The player may have a Pisces Ascendant or a Scorpio Ascendant. I have seen Scorpio, more than Pisces. Pisces Ascendants seem to have more of a conscience. The conscience in a true player is blunted. How could be use people, if he had a sensitive compass for empathy?The Water Ascendant is one type of tenderness aspect, only. I have seen Ceres placed, prominently, in the charts of Players. Ceres is THE most tender of any asteroid. Ceres is the mother of Prosperina. Ceres traveled the globe searching for her daughter. Ceres is a soul mate aspect, in synastry. As I said, a Player who has any game, and they all do, by definition, has to have some game. The game must include a tenderness aspect

Then, there are aspects for general charm. A Player must have some general charm, as well. The classic aspect for general charm is Moon trine Venus. “Sigh*. I love this aspect. I have a separate article on it. Venus trine moon loves woman, quite frankly. He had a mother he loved, usually. He is in touch with his own feminine side, as well. This man can be a best friend, as well as a lover. He will, often, get along with woman better than men. His group of friends will be woman, for the most part. This man could go shopping with you and help you pick out jeans. He is not embarrassed to do “womanly” things, as he has his own girly side firmly attached. He is not embarrassed to talk on the phone for hours, gossip with the best of them, and help you paint your nails. The whole time, he retains his masculinity. Quite a feat, indeed.

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posted February 22, 2012 11:39 AM            

We have looked at House Rulers, with respect to our question. We have looked at some planetary aspects, with respect to our question. Now, on to Asteroids. The consummate Player usually has his bad boy seducer Asteroids on his Ascendant. This would be the first place we would look for them, anyway. There are some classic Seducer Asteroids. One is Casanova. The man with Casanova knows he is good. He has his game down and uses it. He has full confidence in his powers of seduction. It has usually become a game with him. When one is so naturally gifted at something, it can be a double edged sword. If you talk to a Casanova, at a really gut level, you may find that the game runs him, rather than vice-versa.The Cupido Asteroid has a different twist, as they all do. Cupido is the look of love, with no heart within. The wielder of Cupido knows it is a game, even more than Casanova, perhaps. It is all good fun to him, as he is so good at it. It may be more like a game of pinball than a game of Hearts. The man with a strong Cupido does not seem to have the ennui of the Casanova. However, I will need more charts and more time, to see if this is really true.

Moving on with Asteroids, there are the Erotic Asteroids. Eros is the classic. A man with Eros conjunct the Ascendant vibes Eros. One can feel it and this man, usually, wields it. It is like vibration candy. Why not? Sappho is an Eros who knows his fine arts. He is a consummate art lover and a consummate erotic soul. When these combine, we have Bolero. There are lesser known Astrological factors which make for magnetism. The Great Attractor is one. This is a black hole in space, I think. It pulls as in the nature of a vortex. How apt.

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posted February 22, 2012 11:40 AM            

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posted February 22, 2012 11:46 AM            

I have
- Ruler of 8th House in the 5th House
- Ruler of 7th house in the 1st house.
- Ruler of 10th house in the 5th house
- Moon trine Venus (Exact) trine Mars (forming a Grand Trine)
- Eros conjunct Child (Exact) in 12th house
- Moon in 5th house
- Venus conjunct Sappho (<1 degree)
- Cupido square Neptune (<1 degree)
- Cupido trine Uranus (1 degree)
- Ceres conjunct sappho (1 degree)
- Venus conjunct Ceres wide (<3 degrees)

posted February 22, 2012 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Very interesting topic! I do have a question tho. U say capricorn rules the 10th house right and u may find ruler of the 10th house in the 5th house. So if a man has capricorn in the 5th in his chart does that count? I'm confused here lol bc I read that cappy in the 5th house makes them very serious about relationships and they tend to put career above all else. What is ur input on that?

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Shy Virgo
That would be a whole other thing. I will be back to explain

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posted February 22, 2012 01:09 PM            

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posted February 22, 2012 03:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
No, it`s a "I am so sweet and innocent and gentle and caring" aspect, which on itself is a wonderful thing. But combine this with a "player aspect", and you might have a wolf in sheep clothing.

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Yep, all players have a tenderness aspect. How else would we fall for them

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posted February 22, 2012 03:18 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
moon trine venus is a player aspect?

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posted February 22, 2012 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
Hmmmm... does ths applies to women?

I have
- Ruler of 8th House in the 5th House
- Ruler of 7th house in the 1st house.
- Ruler of 10th house in the 5th house
- Moon trine Venus (Exact) trine Mars (forming a Grand Trine)
- Eros conjunct Child (Exact) in 12th house
- Moon in 5th house
- Venus conjunct Sappho (<1 degree)
- Cupido square Neptune (<1 degree)
- Cupido trine Uranus (1 degree)
- Ceres conjunct sappho (1 degree)
- Venus conjunct Ceres wide (<3 degrees)

I'm not a player... I'm too devoted too loyal too sensitive to be a player. But I know the game to protect myself from a player..

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Yes, it would apply to woman, but what I gave were indicators. A whole chart takes me a literal 2-3 days lol

I don't think you are a player!!

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posted February 22, 2012 03:25 PM            

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Originally posted by ShyVirgo1979:
Very interesting topic! I do have a question tho. U say capricorn rules the 10th house right and u may find ruler of the 10th house in the 5th house. So if a man has capricorn in the 5th in his chart does that count? I'm confused here lol bc I read that cappy in the 5th house makes them very serious about relationships and they tend to put career above all else. What is ur input on that?

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Sweetie You are talking about apples and oranges

A Cap is not a player, by the nature of Cap. I was talking about a more advanced topic in Astrology--House Rulers.

Your question does not seem as if it related!

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posted February 22, 2012 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Hmm how about sun conjunct square or opposed mars, venus conjunct square or opposed mars, and venus conjunct square or opposed uranus?

I have seen a lot of players that have at least two of these aspects.

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Hmm---good points. I have not seen this but will keep it in mind, RAS!

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posted February 22, 2012 03:26 PM            

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Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:
ummmmm I have:
7th house ruler in 5th
5th hosue ruler in 7th
6th house ruler in 5th
10th house ruler in 5th
11th house ruler in 5th
I have two planets, Mercury and Venus in Aries in the 5th house.....hmmmm!!!

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ARE you a player

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posted February 22, 2012 03:50 PM            

I have both a Pisces ASC and Moon Trine Venus.

posted February 22, 2012 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Hahahahahaha LOL

I have both a Pisces ASC and Moon Trine Venus.

Player Deluxe

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posted February 22, 2012 03:57 PM            

So, unlikely a Player

Plus I have Saturn written all over my Capricorn Sun in 10th House.. a distinctly non-Player aspect.

Now, I have to check out my Mrs. with a Cancer ASC!!

posted February 22, 2012 05:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sand:
[b]moon trine venus is a player aspect?

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what about the square. sounds abit non-commital.

posted February 22, 2012 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
ARE you a player

Hmmmmmm.. Ok I'll admit I was a bit of a bad girl in my teen years!! But I haven't been a player as such...my conscience just wouldn't allow.. But was very close! Lol

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posted February 22, 2012 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by sc0rpioRising:

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Reformed player

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