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fairaqua
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posted February 23, 2012 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My mind is still a little boggled on orbs.
What is considered a tight orb?
What is a wide orb?

On astro.com Ive noticed there are negative (-) orbs.
For example:
My sun squars my moon
-9°48a

or

Jupiter sextiles murcury
-0°14s


can someone explain without an essay?
That is when my mind starts feeling a little confused

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ariesdragon
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posted February 23, 2012 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me too! lol

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SaggiMC
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posted February 23, 2012 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
astro uses rather wide orbs of 10' for all aspects, that's why I reduce it down to 85% to bring in line with mainstream views..

Orbs can be quite contentious issues between astrologers and you will no doubt get lots of different answers to..

Sun and moon get 10' orbs to anything.
conjunctions are + or - 8'
sextiles 60' looks like a star get + or - 6'
trine 120' gets _ or - 6'
oppositions + or - 8' 180'
quincunxs + or - 3'

when you see (a) next to a degree it means approaching. When you see (s) next to degree it means separating...

There are only three factors, but you have to have a way of knowing them.

1) Speed of the planets
2) Which planets is ahead, and which one is behind.

A simple example:

If two planets are close to conjunction, if the one "ahead" is moving slower, the aspect is applying.

If two planets are close to conjunction, if the one "behind" is moving slower, the aspect is separating.

There are some general rules about the speed of planets, but retrograde motion makes this a bit complicated for all true planets. Only the Sun and Moon do not alternate between direct and retrograde motion

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SaggiMC
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posted February 23, 2012 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fairaqua:
My mind is still a little boggled on orbs.
What is considered a tight orb?
What is a wide orb?

On astro.com Ive noticed there are negative (-) orbs.
For example:
My sun squars my moon
-9°48a

or

Jupiter sextiles murcury
-0°14s


can someone explain without an essay?
That is when my mind starts feeling a little confused


you seem to have the gist. when an aspect is o' 14"s the aspect is 'exact' and separating in motion...


now orbs for synatry are quite tight, I use max of 3' but others may use wider orbs, again quite contentious...

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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Starry~*
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posted February 23, 2012 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've always wondered this myself and I found that the wider orb aspects do apply.

Example:

My SO and I have DW venus conjunct saturn.
My saturn on his venus at 4'09
His saturn on my venus at 6'20

Now, in this case, the max 3' orb concept would rule out this DW synastry aspect and would completely be disregarded by some astrologers. However, I found this to be quite the case in our interaction together.

Theres a ping-pong effect where I would sometimes be the one who is saturn and at times he would be the one that's saturn.

So in my case, we both felt this aspect despite the fact that it wasn't "tight" (< 3')

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fairaqua
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posted February 23, 2012 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So what is the difference in a + or a -?

Example
Moon trine Sun
3'

Moon trine Sun
-3'

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SaggiMC
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posted February 24, 2012 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Starry~*:
I've always wondered this myself and I found that the wider orb aspects do apply.

Example:

My SO and I have DW venus conjunct saturn.
My saturn on his venus at 4'09
His saturn on my venus at 6'20

Now, in this case, the max 3' orb concept would rule out this DW synastry aspect and would completely be disregarded by some astrologers. However, I found this to be quite the case in our interaction together.

Theres a ping-pong effect where I would sometimes be the one who is saturn and at times he would be the one that's saturn.

So in my case, we both felt this aspect despite the fact that it wasn't "tight" (< 3')


that's very difficult double whammy, commiss....It can take an awful lot of self analysis, which general public or beginning students would not even be aware of. Astrology is like a journey of self discovery and learning a new language...

tyically this aspect in synastry, saturn hard aspect venus. the venus person ends of feeling unloved or uncherished. BUT having lots of other easy aspects, will help *offset* the negative qualities of this particular one. So as you are still together I can only summise you do have some nice other interchart aspects

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SaggiMC
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posted February 24, 2012 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fairaqua:
So what is the difference in a + or a -?

Example
Moon trine Sun
3'

Moon trine Sun
-3'


astro.com would not present it like this as + or - it simply uses A approaching and S for separting.... This is THE best free resource for astrologers everywhere

what site have you been researching?

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fairaqua
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posted February 24, 2012 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fairaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All over the internet..
No one site.

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