posted February 26, 2012 04:39 AM            

There was a thread recently posted by SaggiMC in part about composite and division charts and the difference between them.

For those of you that may not know, a composite is the midpoint between the two peoples planetary placements combined to make a new chart that does not actually exist in time. The division chart is a midpoint of the peoples involved birth dates and times, making it a "real" existing planetary body chart.

From my understanding, the composite is receptive to transits, where as the division chart is receptive and reactive. And therefore describes how the relationship will go.

I have read in multiple articles previously, and in the thread, SsggiMC also suggested that ppl disregard the composite planetary SING placements (taking into account only the aspects and house placements) and rather take into account the sign placements of the division chart.

But that doesn't personally make sense to me because the composite is a creation of your energy blended. Its the creation of you both fused together CREATING a whole new being. Much like love: intangible but its felt and real. Shouldn't the composite in a sense be more "real" to the individuals involved? Not to mention it represents your actual natal charts.

For example, I've been in a relationship where all the personal composite planets except for the moon were in Pisces. The division chart has them all, except for the moon, in Virgo. The moon stays the same in both. Now, the aspects between the outer planets is similar in both charts but there is a huge difference between Virgo and Pisces characteristics. And between Taurus and Libra ASC. I would rather it be in Virgo because that stellium would be solstice his NN and all fall into his 8th house but Virgo was just not "us". It felt very much Pisces to us both. The positive Pisces but especially the negative Pisces traits were ever noticeable. Disillusion, total lack of boundary, psychic, romantic, tragic, melt into each other, accepting, idealizing, unconditional love, time stops when im with you, let me save you type of love. Completely other worldly, and that was a big part of why it didn't work. With a Virgo stellium, i would imagine we would be more grounded and realistic. Workable and fitting into reality. Before i knew anything about astrology, i sensed the Pisces energy, and when i saw that the stellium, it brought much needed understanding.

Of course, there are plenty of astrologers who interpret the composite sign placements.

But I am wondering, have you personally felt the composite placement traits play out in your close personal relationships? Did they represent the core interactions?

posted February 26, 2012 11:26 AM            

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I have read in multiple articles previously, and in the thread, SsggiMC also suggested that ppl disregard the composite planetary SING placements (taking into account only the aspects and house placements) and rather take into account the sign placements of the division chart.

But that doesn't personally make sense to me because the composite is a creation of your energy blended. Its the creation of you both fused together CREATING a whole new being. Much like love: intangible but its felt and real. Shouldn't the composite in a sense be more "real" to the individuals involved? Not to mention it represents your actual natal charts.

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first, for a newbie who is little self aware and knows little about astrology the composite won't mean *anything* inanyevent.

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Shouldn't the composite in a sense be more "real" to the individuals involved? Not to mention it represents your actual natal charts.

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The energy only matters when physically together. I say this because my BF is in not even in same Country as me, so how can a composite function when you are apart? The composite creates a *relationship energy* in it's own right. It's how you both FEEL when together acting as a couple, a unit.

Whereas, when apart you prob would not make the same ideas, judgements in every day matters.

Now the Davison chart, which as you say is created by DOB, TOB and place of birth to create another chart called "The relationship" chart. Which may or not resonate, same with composite, it may or may not resonate depending on how astrologically knowlegeable tyou are. I would also suggest learning all the basics before jumping into doing these complex matters, just because you may be having relationship problems. That's when people will *grasp at straws* and usually when people come to astrology in the first place.

There is very little written on the Davison chart available for research. So my advice would is study, read, study some more and use your own natal and composites to do evaluation.

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I would also NOT overly exclusively use composites OR davisons in favour of doing the more usual typical synastry bi wheel.

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posted February 27, 2012 07:25 AM            

Free reading thread http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002828.html

posted February 27, 2012 10:16 AM            

My Pluto Libra conjuncts his moon exactly.

I have Libra in the third house, we both have Pluto in our third house individually.

So talking is very important to us. I'm eternally fascinated by our discussions, and there is a Libra quality to them, in the striving for balance and beauty, the attention to words, the topics that come up.

We talk politics a lot. He says something, it inspires me to carry the ball further, then he takes it further, all the way up a ladder. It's Libran, I think.

posted February 27, 2012 10:32 AM            

It's how the relationship manifests.

I have Sun in Libra 1 in 10th house
Moon Sagittarius 10 in 1st house
Venus in Aries 4 in 4th house

posted February 27, 2012 05:36 PM            

- The signs are/were always very significant in my relationships.
The entire energy of the relationship changes based on the signs. I had Sun/Moon/Merc conj in Capricorn and opposite Venus in Cancer with an ex. Now I have Sun/Venus/Merc conj in Taurus and opposite Moon in Scorpio. This relationship is much more romantic (Venusian) and also stable (fixed). The past relationship whilst it was very well-defined (Capricorn) - We were never in doubt about our 'status' as bf/gf - but it was also kind of boring after some time. Things just became very dull and mechanical. Almost like we had to be together because everyone expected us to be. We met each other's families etc.. Everyone liked everyone else. It just seemed like we would be disappointing others by breaking up. Since Capricorn hates to disappoint - we kept 'sticking' together. Eventually it still fizzled out though.

posted February 28, 2012 09:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Mermaid:
I fully agree with Betty Boop that Composites and signs do matter even if we are physically apart.I was bit surprised that someone so well read as SaggiMC saying that energy is not felt when we are apart.Mental and spiritual energy can be feel more powerful when two people are apart as long as they are able to communicate with each other.I say this because I have personally experienced it.Our Composite shows
the kind of relationship we have,not only by the house position but also the sign.Ours is an online relationship and our Composite shows a tight Sun/Venus conjunction in the 3rd house falling in Gemini.And I have never experienced anything more strongly and in fact the regular 'in person' relationships pale in comparison with this.

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