posted February 26, 2012 08:28 AM            

This is a good question as one tries to plumb the depth of Unaspected Planets. Oneself, one’s friends, one’s study groups and especially the doing of charts is the laboratory.With that being said, I want to talk about the Unaspected Moon. I know two natives, to whom I will show this article. Perhaps, they will comment. They know better than anyone.However, per the nature of an Unaspected Planet, it may be buried to the person. Back to my question. Would an Unaspected Moon be able to blast someone? I ask this as I ponder the nature of an Unaspected Moon and, more particularly, the validity of the concept of a Semi-Unaspected Moon. I ponder this from trying to get behind the eyes of an Unaspected Planet. For me, I understand Astrology and each placement, purely, by getting behind it’s eyes. Until I do, it is, simply, head knowledge . Head knowledge is needed. However, it does not allow one to be fluid with a subject. Fluidity makes creativity, in my experience. At any rate, I have been pondering if an Unaspected Moon could blast someone. I would have to go back a few steps and explain an Unaspected Planet and the concept of Anger, astrologically.

An Unaspected Planet has no parents. Aspects are parents. Aspects link planets to each other. Hence, an Unaspected Planet is flying solo, in what the planet represents. I will list what each planet represents with a keyword or two.
Sun—-Identity, Sense of Self, Ego Strength

Moon–Emotional Nature ,Deepest Feelings, Deepest Heart

Venus–What one Finds Beautiful, How one Loves

Mars–Any Drives, Passions, Aggression, Assertion

Saturn–Restriction, Patience, Slow Working to a Long term Goal

Jupiter–Optimism, Expansion, Joy, Good Vibrations, Luck

Neptune–Makes Reality Hard to See, Lives in the Next Dimension of Creativity and Mysticism

Uranus–Rebellion,Being Out of the Box
The Moon is one’s feelings, if one wants to put it in one sentence. It is one’s inner child. Picture a child. His emotions become him. He does not smile with his lips and constrict his body with rage, at the same time. Picture a dog. A dog does not wag his tail and growl, at the same time. He is one, organic whole. Such is the case with the moon.It is our feelings. Hence, what relationship does an Unaspected Moon have to his feeling? He has no aspects. He has no linkages with other planets. What is the nature of his emotions? How does he feel his emotions? Consequently, how does he communicate his feelings? With that as a kind of background to my question, I come to my question. I postulate that an Unaspected Moon would not be able to blast someone. However,it would not be that simple, as an Unaspected Planet is buried,by the nature of it. Hence, it can both under do and over do, in the nature of it. The Unaspected Moon person may be overemotional or unemotional. His task is to be a genius in the realm of feelings.Quite a formidable task. However, it is his.This leads me back to my question and I will attempt to answer it, before I fast forward this to my Unaspected Moon friends. I think an Unaspected Moon would either blast someone off the face of the earth or be frozen. As to a Semi-Unaspected Moon, I wonder about the validity of Semi-Unaspected Planets.One aspect( other than a minor one) would provide a linkage. A linkage is not feral, by it’s nature.I left out an important part of the issue: anger. Mars is anger, astrologically. Mars is any drive from sexual passion to rage. My original question was brought up by a person who has a Semi Unaspected Moon and blasted someone. That person was myself, as this article may make no sense without that piece of info. I have a Moon/Mars conjunction at 9 degrees and a Moon/Saturn trine at 8 degrees.

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posted February 26, 2012 08:30 AM            

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posted February 26, 2012 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
Lol, remember that we are on different time zones
I'm not sure what "blasting" means. Is it a big display of anger?

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LOL Maira Yes It is a big display of anger.

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posted February 26, 2012 02:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Thanks Maira----so I am right in saying you do not feel you can access your emotions, easily?

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posted February 26, 2012 02:49 PM            

I have an unaspected Moon (the trine to Pluto is a tad over 8 degrees, and for me 8 degree orb usually is too wide) AND I have Mars in 12th house conjunct Neptune on the ASC.

What am I to do?

Having said that, I agree with you, anger IS an issue, or to be more honest expressing anger in a healthy way.

For many years during my childhood and youth and young adult days, I was not even really repressing my anger, I was simply NOT feeling it.
Like I would not even get upset if "friends" walked all over me, thinking they might have had their "reasons" and that I should "understand".

*snorts* These days are gone, for the most part!

Of course I WAS angry, I simply repressed the feeling of that anger. It expressed itself in autoaggressive behaviour (Mars as ruler of IC in 12th house conjunct Neptune and ASC can develop such a tendency).

Forms of autoaggressive behaviour is of course my overeating (which I still do not have a reliable firm grasp on at all times, though I am doing better). Eating disorders are such a MOON-thing.
Plus it doesn`t help that I have CERES (also connected to eating, nurturing) conjunct expansive Jupiter in limitless Pisces squaring Neptune (and said Mars, though the square to Mars is wide with 4 degrees).

Moon is in the 2nd house, and whatever is in the second house, somehow gets stuck on your physicality, it is the house of collecting. So I am gathering emotions (and food) and we all know how easy fixed signs / houses let go of things. NOT.
Well, my Moon is in a fixed sign (Aquarius) AND house (2nd house).

I also have had iron deficiency for many many years, but two years ago it got so bad, that I finally sought treatment (it had dropped to a low that would have me hospitalized before long). I did not only swallow this yucky brew (I still have that nasty taste in my throat, in my imagination it tasted like blood; though of course I have never consumed blood. lol), but even more important than this I started expressing my annoyance and anger more quickly.
And I realized that to get a reliable access to my emotions and be sure that it is really a FEELING and not a THOUGHT that masks itself as a feeling (it is difficult to explain, probably an Aqua-Moon-thing.), anyway to get a reliable access to my feelings, it is very wise to listen to my physical reactions, my body. It tells me EXACTLY what I am really feeling with its reactions to certain things, people, environments, thoughts.
If I LIKE what I feel is a totally different matter.

Well, listening to my body, makes probably sense in respect to my chart, as this unaspected Mars, ruler of the lunar 4th house, is conjunct the ASC, signifying my physicality.

I am extremely emotional, sentimental, even mushy; just today I was crying in front of TV,w hen I saw how a school-choir was being invited to perform at last year`s oscars, and to see the incredulous joy and amazement on the children`s faces; if I see someone experiencing such unexpected pure joy, I start crying because it is so beautiful and touches me so deep.

On the other hand I can be horribly detached (or at least seem so) and overanalyze just everything.

THAT is my unaspected Moon for me.
Too much or too little - but somehow never the right dosis.

posted February 26, 2012 03:12 PM            

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I must be doomed.
I have an unaspected Moon (the trine to Pluto is a tad over 8 degrees, and for me 8 degree orb usually is too wide) AND I have Mars in 12th house conjunct Neptune on the ASC.

What am I to do?

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What, luminaries get 10' each so for me it's not unaspected... simples

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http://www.skyscript.co.uk/aspectorbs.html

Now Skyscript is a Traditional astrologers site and for me the orbs are too wide.
If the image is bit small press ctrl and + sign to enlarge and ctrl and - to reduce again..

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aspect orbs

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/orbs.php http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/aspects.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horoscope http://www.myastrologybook.com/aspects-and-orbs.htm http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_aspect_e.htm http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7107&highlight=orbs http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7867&highlight=orbs

this can be a contentious issue like house systems and vary quite a lot.

I use, 10' for sun/moon
8' + or - for hard aspects, conj,square,opp
6' + or - for trine easy aspects 120' and sextile 60'
3' + or - for quincunx

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In natal charts, usually accepted orbs (exactness of aspect) are 9 to 10 degrees for oppositions and conjunctions, 7 to 8 degrees for trines and squares, 4 to 5 degrees for sextiles, 2 degrees for quincunxes and sesqui-squares, around 1 degree for semi-sextiles and semi-squares, and often 0.5 to 1 degree for quintiles and their family (semi-quintiles and bi-quintiles). http://www.astrotheme.com/astrology_aspects.php

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posted February 26, 2012 03:14 PM            

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Originally posted by maira:
I think there is one more aspect to consider: progressed planets. My Aries stellium eventually progressed and conjuncted my Moon. In the progressed chart, I now have a stellium in Taurus... that might be one way for the planets to communicate.

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absolutely, something at some point will activate your moonm, if not a progression then a solar arc or transit.

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all the energy is repressed,

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I would say 'disconnected in the psyche' ratther than repressed, only because planets that are unaspectd can go ALL out to feel things and stay longer in emotional situations to really feel the emotion..

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posted February 26, 2012 04:56 PM            

like you said, orbs are a source of an ongoing debate (like housesystems). I disagree with using a 10 degree orb, even for luminaries.

Hamaker-Zondag and Noel Tyl for example suggest an orb of 6 degree, as Roscher and Weidner and Robert Hand do as well.

There certainly are others who are suggesting a bigger orb; I suppose Liz Greene uses wider orbs.

posted February 26, 2012 05:03 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ceri I can kind of feel that disconnect in you. I could not put my finger on it, but I think it is this.If this is too personal, I will erase it. Just tell me.

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Well, I have been talking about that before as well.

It was a great breakthrough emotionally when I realized that "theme" in my behavioural pattern some years ago, yes, definitely.

I still trying to "pick" my fights, and I am not expressing annoyance or anger in an immediate or impulsive way; I guess it is leaking out in my tone or choice of words sometimes though.
But you can be certain that if I am expressing annoyance or anger clearly, that I have been thinking before IF and HOW I should do it, and if it will be any good or will make things only worse and if it`s worth it.
Well, as long as I am arguing, it means I still care on some level.
But even if I am not arguing, because I for some reason did not deem the issue worth it, nowadays I FEEL the annoyance at least, and know what is going on within me.

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posted February 26, 2012 05:31 PM            

The Moon is your feelings.If you are out of touch with your feelings, you are out of touch with your moon. Your Moon Sign shows how you process your feelings. Are you a Chessnut Tree or an Oak Tree? Are you a flowering bush or a prickly one? One cannot help which type of tree one is. However,one can try to get in touch with one’s Moon, as it is one’s inner child. If one shoos him away, one will lose childlike wonder.One will lose childlike innocence. One will lose belly laughter. Last but not least, one falls in loves: child to child. Let your child out.

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posted February 26, 2012 10:01 PM            

I don't know why I did not put 2 and 2 together. You will be able to be a genius with your emotions--a genius in feeling. The upshot of the Unaspected Moon is an UBER feeler.

That goes for me, too
My Moon/Mars conj is 9 degrees
Mu Saturn /Moon trine is 8 degrees.
My Moon is unaspected according to IQ. He is my role model as an AStrologer--bar none

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posted February 27, 2012 12:28 AM            

I have no problem in accessing my emotions, I have the opposite problem, I wish I could stop feeling/being so sensitive, since I'm hypersensitive and I get my feelings hurt really easily. Having a Pisces Sun/12H Pluto chart ruler doesn't help much since I the ego(sun) and how I present(12h chart ruler) am hardwired for that.

With anger it all gets directed through a semisextile to Pluto(sco) and Saturn(cap). Even if minor aspect are not counted, hence the unaspected moon, the minor aspect become far more important in the attempted integration of emotions.

I had Pluto transit my moon at 13-15 years of age. So my moon had enough practice taking to Pluto that in can in some small way through the semisextile. I'm guessing that Saturn may do something like that when it goes though Sag in a few years.

I get angry through Pluto (which is sextile to mars/saturn/venus in cap). Either way the feeling get repressed.

posted February 27, 2012 08:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I had the biggest A-ha experience Ceri and Maira.

I don't know why I did not put 2 and 2 together. You will be able to be a genius with your emotions--a genius in feeling. The upshot of the Unaspected Moon is an UBER feeler.

That goes for me, too
My Moon/Mars conj is 9 degrees
Mu Saturn /Moon trine is 8 degrees.
My Moon is unaspected according to IQ. He is my role model as an AStrologer--bar none

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HOW can it be unspected when you mars conj moon and saturn trine moon?? wishful thinking. Have you decided on a TOB or still guessing??

posted February 27, 2012 08:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Well, I have been talking about that before as well.

It was a great breakthrough emotionally when I realized that "theme" in my behavioural pattern some years ago, yes, definitely.

I still trying to "pick" my fights, and I am not expressing annoyance or anger in an immediate or impulsive way; I guess it is leaking out in my tone or choice of words sometimes though.
But you can be certain that if I am expressing annoyance or anger clearly, that I have been thinking before IF and HOW I should do it, and if it will be any good or will make things only worse and if it`s worth it.
Well, as long as I am arguing, it means I still care on some level.
But even if I am not arguing, because I for some reason did not deem the issue worth it, nowadays I FEEL the annoyance at least, and know what is going on within me.

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Your explanation reminds me very much of my mercury retrograde. It went direct age 19 and boy did I come out of my shell, bigtime. But before that and still now, I try to think before speaking. I hate arguements and find it doesn't trip off my tongue as easily as with someone who has mars/mercury or mercury/uranus (typical argumentative aspects)

Having said this if someone has upset me it *always has to go inside* to be analysied and internalised before I can express it. But boy once I have had chance to respond, it could come out as mercury/pluto
my mercury is conj venus and trine to jupiter.

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