posted February 29, 2012 08:03 AM            

This is not terribly hard to do. You need an Astrologer who will spend time with you. That would be the first requirement. If you know the general time it would be easier. However,if you know nothing an Astrologer could still figure it out with your help.Each sign is very different. This is more so for the signs which are next to each other on the Astrology chart.For example, a Libra Ascendant is very different than a Scorpio Ascendant for people in the Astrological know. For the person reading who needs help, I will give some guidelines. The Ascendant is like a mask that is stuck on.It is more like a pair of sunglasses which one cannot remove.One does not notice as one is so accustomed .Others can see our Ascendant before we. However, with a little attention to the matter, one can help oneself find one’s Ascendant. One must notice one’s first reactions to situations.If someone thwarts you, what do you do? Do you step back and watch? Do you jump in with fists flying? Do you go in to a shell and can’t speak? The Ascendant is the mask we wear to the outside world but it is not a mask, as I said. It is an integral part of ourselves but used in our reactions and responses to the world. To our intimates, they would see our moon. To our employers, they would see our sun. The Ascendant comes in to play in more superficial social gatherings and daily social intercourse.Watch yourself from afar. Look as if you are in the sky looking down at yourself. I think you should be able to figure out your Ascendant.

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted February 29, 2012 08:19 AM            

using this and some good old-fashioned introspection i managed to make a chart for me
but after some time i tried out other possible ascendants (from what i thought i showed and from the question i asked my friends about myself)

eventually i got my birth certificate and found out that the VERY FIRST chart i made with the EXACT birth time and all was the right one

its just my experience and finding an asc that way might not work for everyone

posted February 29, 2012 08:22 AM            

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted February 29, 2012 08:29 AM            

It was more times that I was "running" from ASC Virgo to ASC Libra, until one man, doing different things with Esoteric has rectificated my birth time. Finally, I was and I am ASC Libra.

Now is new problem: because of my health situation I had to send few drops of my blood to my niece (to other country), because she knows one man, who does diagnosis and also he is psychic. All is right, except he wrote that I was born at 6:45 pm, what means I am now ASC Scorpio.
As you write, Scorpio and Libra are totally different people.

I know many women with ASC Scorpio (my Sun in Taurus) and almost all of them are hot for sex. I am not, except there is really Great Love. I have asked one woman with Scorpio ASC: can she live without sex? She said: NO!

Scorpio ASC people have deep, charming eyes: I call them Chinese eyes.

Libra ASC look (in common): oval face, big brown eyes, curly hair and middle height. Libra ASC likes good looking people and good looking things. That means, I am typical Libra ASC!

Bobbie

posted February 29, 2012 08:32 AM            

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted February 29, 2012 08:41 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Bobbie
You seem like a Libra ASC to me!

---

I am ASC Libra, but this man has no idea about Astrology.

I have nothing against ASC Scorpio (I love them, because there is really chemistry between them and me, Taurus Sun).
As I wrote, there is totally different look and also temperament (I am cold person and you are hot – you are also ASC Scorpio).

WL, Bobbie

posted February 29, 2012 03:30 PM            

I have a much simpler theory, Air on Asc talks a lot. Earth on Asc is a 'doer' fire on Asc is action, movement, water is receptive and 'tea and sympathy'

posted February 29, 2012 04:16 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by sand:
maybe i am libra asc too! i iz 4 minutes away from late libra.

here's a pickle, what if you are on the cusp of libra/ scorpio but have venus in libra or pluto in scorpio on ascendant?

---

You seem too open to be a Scorpio ASC LOL

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal

posted February 29, 2012 04:41 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Basic astrology forum --How to Rectify your TOB is none is avail using Solar Arcs http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000684.html

I have a much simpler theory, Air on Asc talks a lot. Earth on Asc is a 'doer' fire on Asc is action, movement, water is receptive and 'tea and sympathy'

---

posted February 29, 2012 05:00 PM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You seem too open to be a Scorpio ASC LOL

---

why thank you! i am working on being open actually.

posted February 29, 2012 06:49 PM            

I had a hard time trying to figure it out since my sun is aquarius and every time i'd read anything about aqua asc, i would automatically go - well yeah this is sooo me, but then pisces asc fit just as well. I had a hard time separating the sun and asc, but how I finally decided that it was indeed pisces, was that I felt such a strong affinity and understanding of the sign, that i just KNEW i had to have more pisces in my chart then just a venus in pisces in 1st.

Also I'm a hopeless daydreamer, I love animals, poetry, music, dancing, dresses, water-colours, and i'm somewhat psychic....lol

posted March 01, 2012 03:23 AM            

The Asc shows the embodiment of the Solar-lunar/male-female energy polarity. It is biological and observable. The Asc/1st house rules the head/body of the native, so there are clues in the head to what sign/planets are at the Asc. The problem is astrologers tend to be primarily metaphysically focused (right-brain) and overlook observable patterns in the people before them.

Yes, the Asc is you in action, your modus operandi. And yes, it is subjective, but subjective doesn't mean vague and ill-defined. You are very correct in saying that there is a distinct difference between the signs. A person whose birth time says they should have 0* Leo (or any degree of Leo) on the Asc, but who isn't Leonine, is not a Leo rising person. Period. It is observable in the head/body and personality.

posted March 01, 2012 10:59 AM            

*

posted March 01, 2012 11:12 AM            

quote:

---

Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
I have trouble with the use of the term 'mask' entering into the definition of the Ascendant, since it implies something superficial, an artifice, something contrived or taken on as a role. This only applies if one looks at it from a metaphysical standpoint across lifetimes in which one takes on a role in a particular lifetime in which case the entire birth chart and all it implies becomes a temporal role. Maybe this 'mask' notion helps some astrologers, but it doesn't help me as an experienced chart rectifier.

The Asc shows the embodiment of the Solar-lunar/male-female energy polarity. It is biological and observable. The Asc/1st house rules the head/body of the native, so there are clues in the head to what sign/planets are at the Asc. The problem is astrologers tend to be primarily metaphysically focused (right-brain) and overlook observable patterns in the people before them.

Yes, the Asc is you in action, your modus operandi. And yes, it is subjective, but subjective doesn't mean vague and ill-defined. You are very correct in saying that there is a distinct difference between the signs. A person whose birth time says they should have 0* Leo (or any degree of Leo) on the Asc, but who isn't Leonine, is not a Leo rising person. Period. It is observable in the head/body and personality.

---

Yes, I hear you on the word mask. It is not as precise as it should be but it is hard to get a feel for the ASC as it is more of a lens through which one sees the world.

------------------
Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal