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Betty Boop
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posted March 01, 2012 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know this is a strange and maybe difficult question to answer... but who would you say is more important in your life... your close friends - your close family members - or - your romantic partner?

OR - Do you feel like they are more or less in the same basket... like you care about all of them in different ways and none of these people are more or less important?

Please post your Moon/Venus signs and houses.

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'Tseems... a lot of magazine articles assume that everyone puts their romantic partner first. I'm just trying to check.. because it does not apply to me.. So I wanted to see how others felt about this.

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Betty Boop
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posted March 01, 2012 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an extra question for the boys... Another media 'rumour' out there.. seems to be that apparently hetero men would feed their best-friend to the wolves for a night of awesome sex.. with the 'perfect' girl..

I'd like to know - from the male-knowflakeys - Do you really feel like you care THAT much about romantic relationships - that you would throw out a perfectly good friendship in the name of love, if you had to?

Having Venus in the 11th I cannot imagine doing this. But I am curious about the guys... and also your placements.

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sand
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posted March 01, 2012 03:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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teasel
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posted March 01, 2012 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the conjunction, and it would depend on the circumstances.

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OR - Do you feel like they are more or less in the same basket... like you care about all of them in different ways and none of these people are more or less important?

This.

Gemini, conjunct South Node. End of 7th/beginning of 8th. My family are the most important part of my life.

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aquaguy91
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posted March 01, 2012 03:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aqua venus and taurus moon here,friends and family are most important to me, they are always there and dont betray me, the women i have been involved with are a different story...

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Node
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posted March 01, 2012 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I would have to disqualify myself, I have no family members I truly care about. I have obligations or- duty if you prefer.

Then again, I am not married. Nor do I currently have children.

When I am in *they* usually eclipse all other thoughts.
However I would never kick a good friend to the curb for my love interest.
Moon Pisces 7H
Venus Taurus 9H
The question for the gentlemen sounds 'Maxim magazine', I would say that the first part sounds more true, the second is phrased around love not sex. I would be interested in the answers, with that distinction too.....

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aquaguy91
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posted March 01, 2012 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and no i would not give up my friends for a night of sex,girlfriends come and go but your true friends are always there

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 01, 2012 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I married my best friend, with whom I share the best sex, and I come from a birth family of bums to whom I have zero allegiance, so I wouldn't be able to answer your question

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Capriquarius
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posted March 01, 2012 07:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sand:
if she's the one) ..

This is key.

You know that a guy is just passing time with you if he isn't ditching his friends for you.

@ topic: I have Moon in Aquarius in the 5th and Venus in Scorpio in H3.

To me, family is duty & obligation. Blood is thicker than H2O. Their needs take priority. But I'm not emotionally dependent on them.

Lover/S.O. is second. Because this is a rare, special, very intimate and intense relationship....which is what Venus in Scorpio craves.

Friends mean next to nothing to me. The ones I've had just got in my way, taking up huge blocks of my time by complaining to me about their problems. I feel they benefited more from the relationship than I did. When I need THEIR help, they rarely come through. What lousy investments. And they are easy to replace - you can be friends with the whole world if you wanna bother.

Plus, guys think that if you're friends, it's a chance for them to get in your pants someday. So I never call them that - that way they can't whine about being "friend-zoned."

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doommlord
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posted March 01, 2012 07:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for doommlord     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
for me the partner is the most important and keeping it close is a priority....scoring 1st

family-not very strongly connected... either conflict or complete apathy.... scoring 3rd

friends-friends tend to be good but not very important as they come and go in my life and i had my share of traumas with close friends.... scoring 2nd

moon in leo in 7th
venus in scorpio in 9th

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Faith
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posted March 01, 2012 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel a pull toward making the most of my social contacts with everybody: friends, family, my husband, strangers. My biggest priority is my family, though.

Venus in Sagittarius, 5th
Moon in Pisces, 8th

Edit: I changed my answer a few times...I tried to answer this but I realize it's too complicated for me.

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ariesdragon
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posted March 01, 2012 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Capriquarius:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by sand:
[b]if she's the one) ..


This is key.

You know that a guy is just passing time with you if he isn't ditching his friends for you.

@ topic: I have Moon in Aquarius in the 5th and Venus in Scorpio in H3.

To me, family is duty & obligation. Blood is thicker than H2O. Their needs take priority. But I'm not emotionally dependent on them.

Lover/S.O. is second. Because this is a rare, special, very intimate and intense relationship....which is what Venus in Scorpio craves.

Friends mean next to nothing to me. The ones I've had just got in my way, taking up huge blocks of my time by complaining to me about their problems. I feel they benefited more from the relationship than I did. When I need THEIR help, they rarely come through. What lousy investments. And they are easy to replace - you can be friends with the whole world if you wanna bother.

Plus, guys think that if you're friends, it's a chance for them to get in your pants someday. So I never call
them that - that way they can't whine about being "friend-zoned."

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Great answer I like it!

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 01, 2012 08:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Compared to my wife, I would sell my birth family on Ebay and ship them COD, with a frequent buyer discount.

Nobody matters to me but my wife. I DGAF about anyone else.

Blood? I'll pour it down the toilet bowl and flush.

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Starry~*
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posted March 01, 2012 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Starry~*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Family doesn't matter to me.

Friends come and go (but atleast I do care about the close ones) I believe that if we were close friends and stuff, we would maintain communication regardless.

Lovers come and go too.

At this point I think the most important would be my friends!!!

Sun in Libra 12th H
Moon in Libra 11th H
Venus in Scorpio 1st H

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SaggiMC
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posted March 01, 2012 10:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Please post your Moon/Venus signs and houses.

How can you assess JUST signs and house without looking at ASPECTS.... you will never have a proper picture.

What are you using the collected data for exactly please? for fun or some serious study?


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Capriquarius
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posted March 01, 2012 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Re: my Venus in 3rd - that's the House of siblings, and I have peaceful relationships (Venus = peace, relationship) with both my sisters (Venus, female siblings).

In terms of primal instincts, they are my biological insurance. Same genetic mix. Younger, therefore higher fertility. So they're given priority. I'd sacrifice my life for them (Neptune in 3rd) if it ever comes down to that.

Friends....they're a source of entertainment. Until they start breeding, then I pull a disappearing act before they get a chance to hint about free babysitting. I'm not wasting my resources on perpetuating THEIR individual DNA.

quote:
Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Compared to my wife, I would sell my birth family on Ebay and ship them COD, with a frequent buyer discount.

Nobody matters to me but my wife. I DGAF about anyone else.

Blood? I'll pour it down the toilet bowl and flush.



LOL!
"Love and hate are two sides of the same coin"... and Capricorn is at one end of the polarity belonging to family.


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Melodie
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posted March 01, 2012 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melodie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sun - Scorpio - 8th
Moon - Gemini - 3rd
Venus - Capricorn - 10th

Family...I have a large family, but the only person I am truly close to is my mom (and my maternal grandparents when they were still alive). There is a sense of obligation in the back of my mind because she sacrificed a lot for me, but I also believe that's how a mother ideally should be. She is and always will be a person I know who, without a doubt, will never betray me. Trust and loyalty is very important to the both of us, but we've both established that there are some things we don't and don't need to know about each other.

Partners...I've only been in two relationships in my 22 year life, both relatively short. They knew me on a different level, as expected. Right now, I don't see myself finding that unconditional, all-consuming love, but I still hold on to that hope because I know it exists. I've seen it with my grandparents.

Friends...come and go. Like what another member said, they're more for passing time. They think they know more about me than they actually do. But I've realized that it's better to have friends than to have enemies.

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enchantress299
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posted March 01, 2012 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, I think all three are very equally important, but I guess if I had to rate them...

1. Friends- I make and keep GOOD friends. Friends who have shown me that they have my back. I can rely on them for pretty much anything, AND vice versa. I have my share of acquaintances of course, but my core group of friends are the ones I rely on (which is good because I live out of state away from my immediate family). To be honest, I feel like I learn a lot more from my friends than I do from my family, which is part of why friends gets the number one spot for me.

2. Family- I lucked out and got a great family that also always has my back (for the most part). I love them, but I've never been super close to any of them. They are a great support system.

3. Partner- The ONLY reason this made number 3 is because I have had my share of bad partners, and unfortunately, until I meet a guy who will be truly loyal and there for me when I need him, I'm not moving this out of number 3. I've had a lot better friends than I have romantic partners, sadly. I know that will eventually change though.

Aries Moon in the 5th
Virgo Venus in the 9th

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Nine
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posted March 01, 2012 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon in Sagittarius - 3rd house
Venus in Taurus - 9th house

Lover would come in at first. Like Node, when attached they eclipse all else.

Friends will take 2nd place.

Family rounds out at 3rd.

If a lover/partner asks me to choose between them and a friend, I will instantly choose friend above a partner.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 01, 2012 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Capriquarius:
"Love and hate are two sides of the same coin"... and Capricorn is at one end of the polarity belonging to family.


The difference is that I've settled for good, and my "family" is the one I have chosen and built by personal choice, not the one that I was involuntarily born into.

The family that I have has two girls, two boys and my wife. They are what I live for, and whom I will die for. These are the only people who would come to my aid. If I have to go to hell, they would sacrifice to join me.

I marry once and once only. I neither believe in past lives or future mortal lives, so this is the only marriage I will ever have. I'll never marry again.

The rest - as in everyone else - can go F themselves.

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ail221
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posted March 01, 2012 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My close family members are first and foremost. Ehh friends and lovers come and go.

Moon in Gemini in the first house
Venus in Gemini in the 2nd house

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Alma Sun
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posted March 02, 2012 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1st is family.

2nd is friends.

3rd is partners. (With the exception of one man. An ex of mines was of equal importance to my family.)

That's the usual way I'd order it though.

Moon in Leo, 10th
Venus in Scorp, 2nd

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anongrl10
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posted March 02, 2012 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anongrl10     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
I married my best friend, with whom I share the best sex, and I come from a birth family of bums to whom I have zero allegiance, so I wouldn't be able to answer your question

That ^ for me is ideal.
I always valued my (true) friends as my real family (what is the value of blood relations when your so called family are a bunch of f*ckwits?) and I expect any boy who is close to me to be my best friend and family.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 02, 2012 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The difference is that most of you ladies are not married, or do not have children.

Your priorities will change immediately after you have you first child.

Tell me that you would value your parents more than your own child?

This to me is the priority: God, then married family, then birth family (whatever f@cXhe4d nitwits wanna be nice to me), then friends (if any).

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