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White Wave
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posted March 02, 2012 01:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for White Wave     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am new to analyzing composite charts.... So I am wondering if there is anyone with a more indepth knowledge who can point out some key aspects to this composite.....

Does anything stand out to you about this composite chart?

Especially any ideas on...
* Sun conjunct chiron conjunct lilith stellium right conjunct the IC
opposing
Venus conj. Mercury
*the saturn- jupiter-mars-pluto stellium overarching across our 8th and 9th house? in Virgo and Libra
*Neptune in 11th house

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lalalinda
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posted March 02, 2012 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello White Wave! Welcome to LL

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appleberry
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posted March 02, 2012 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is a Synastry Calculation table from cafeastrology.com (not exactly what you asked for but hopefully helpful in some way)

Sun conjunct Sun 1
Sun trine or sextile Sun 3
Sun square Sun -2
Sun opposition Sun 2
Sun conjunct, trine, or sextile Moon 3
Sun square Moon -3
Sun opposition Moon 2
Sun conjunct Mercury 2
Sun sextile or trine Mercury 2
Sun square or opposition Mercury -1
Sun conjunct Venus 3
Sun trine Venus 3
Sun sextile Venus 2
Sun square or opposition Venus -1
Sun conjunct Mars 2
Sun trine or sextile Mars 3
Sun square or opposition Mars -2
Sun conjunct, sextile, or trine Jupiter 3
Sun square or opposition Jupiter 1
Sun sextile or trine Saturn 3
Sun conjunct, square or opposition Saturn -2
Sun sextile or trine Uranus 2
Sun conjunct, square or opposition Uranus -1
Sun conjunct, square, or opposition Neptune -2
Sun sextile or trine Neptune 1
Sun conjunct, sextile or trine Pluto 1
Sun square or opposition Pluto -2
Sun conjunct, trine, or sextile Chiron 3
Sun conjunct Ascendant 3
Sun sextile or trine Ascendant 2
Sun square Ascendant -2
Sun conjunct Descendant 4
Sun conjunct IC 2
Sun conjunct or opposition Vertex 4
Sun conjunct North Node 4
Sun conjunct South Node 3
Sun sextile or trine Nodes of the Moon 2
Sun square Nodes of the Moon 2
Sun hard aspect (conjunct, semi-square, square, opposition) Sun/Moon midpoint 4
Sun in 7th house 4
Sun in 1st house 3

Moon conjunct, sextile, or trine Moon 3
Moon square Moon -3
Moon opposition Moon 1
Moon conjunct, sextile, or trine Mercury 2
Moon square or opposition Mercury -2
Moon conjunct, sextile, or trine Venus 3
Moon square or opposition Venus 1
Moon conjunct Mars -1
Moon sextile or trine Mars 3
Moon square Mars -3
Moon opposition Mars -2
Moon conjunct, sextile, or trine Jupiter 3
Moon square or opposition Jupiter 1
Moon sextile or trine Saturn 3
Moon square Saturn -4
Moon conjunct or opposition Saturn -3
Moon conjunct Uranus -1
Moon sextile or trine Uranus 2
Moon square or opposition Uranus -2
Moon conjunct Neptune 1
Moon sextile or trine Neptune 2
Moon square or opposition Neptune -3
Moon conjunct Pluto 1
Moon sextile or trine Pluto 2
Moon square or opposition Pluto -3
Moon conjunct, trine, or sextile Chiron 3
Moon conjunct Ascendant 3
Moon sextile or trine Ascendant 3
Moon square Ascendant -2
Moon conjunct Descendant 4
Moon conjunct IC 3
Moon conjunct or opposition Vertex 4
Moon conjunct North Node 4
Moon conjunct South Node 3
Moon trine or sextile Nodes of the Moon 2
Moon square Nodes of the Moon 2
Moon hard aspect (conjunct, semi-square, square, opposition) Sun/Moon midpoint 4
Moon in 7th house 3
Moon in 1st house 3

Mercury sextile, conjunct, or trine Mercury 2
Mercury square Mercury -4
Mercury opposition Mercury -2
Mercury conjunct, sextile, or trine Venus 2
Mercury square or opposition Venus -1
Mercury conjunct Mars -1
Mercury sextile or trine Mars 2
Mercury square or opposition Mars -2
Mercury conjunct, sextile, or trine Jupiter 3
Mercury square or opposition Jupiter 1
Mercury conjunct, square, or opposition Saturn -2
Mercury sextile or trine Saturn 1
Mercury in aspect to Uranus 1
Mercury sextile or trine Neptune 1
Mercury square or opposition Neptune -3
Mercury in aspect to Pluto 1
Mercury conjunct the Ascendant 2
Mercury sextile or trine Ascendant 1
Mercury square Ascendant -1
Mercury conjunct the Descendant 2
Mercury conjunct IC or MC 2
Mercury conjunct or opposition Vertex 1
Mercury in aspect to Nodes of the Moon 1

Venus conjunct, sextile, trine, or opposition Venus 3
Venus square Venus 1
Venus conjunct, sextile, or trine Mars 3
Venus square or opposition Mars 2
Venus conjunct Jupiter 3
Venus trine or sextile Jupiter 2
Venus square or opposite Jupiter 1
Venus conjunct Saturn 2
Venus sextile or trine Saturn 3
Venus square Saturn -4
Venus opposition Saturn -3
Venus conjunct Uranus 1
Venus sextile or trine Uranus 2
Venus square or opposition Uranus -2
Venus conjunct Neptune 2
Venus trine or sextile Neptune 2
Venus square or opposition Neptune -3
Venus conjunct, trine or sextile Pluto 2
Venus square or opposition Pluto -2
Venus conjunct, trine, or sextile Chiron 3
Venus conjunct Ascendant 3
Venus sextile or trine Ascendant 2
Venus square Ascendant 1
Venus conjunct the Descendant 3
Venus conjunct IC or MC 2
Venus conjunct or opposition Vertex 2
Venus in aspect to Nodes of the Moon 2
Venus hard aspect (conjunct, semi-square, square, opposition) Sun/Moon midpoint 3
Venus in 1st house 2
Venus in 7th house 3

Mars conjunct, sextile, or trine Mars 2
Mars square or opposition Mars -2
Mars in aspect to Jupiter 2
Mars square or opposition Saturn -4
Mars conjunct Saturn -3
Mars sextile or trine Saturn 1
Mars conjunct, sextile, or trine Uranus 1
Mars square or opposition Uranus -2
Mars sextile or trine Neptune 1
Mars conjunct, square, or opposition Neptune -2
Mars conjunct, trine, or sextile Pluto 2
Mars square or opposition Pluto -3
Mars conjunct, sextile, or trine the Ascendant 2
Mars square Ascendant -1
Mars conjunct the Descendant 2
Mars conjunct or opposition Vertex 2
Mars in aspect to Nodes of the Moon 1
Mars hard aspect (conjunct, semi-square, square, opposition) Sun/Moon midpoint 3

Jupiter in aspect to Jupiter 2
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, or trine Saturn 1
Jupiter square or opposition Saturn -1
Jupiter in aspect to Uranus 1
Jupiter conjunct, sextile, or trine Neptune 1
Jupiter square or opposition Neptune -1
Jupiter conjunct, trine or sextile Pluto 1
Jupiter square or opposition Pluto -1
Jupiter conjunct the Ascendant 2
Jupiter sextile, trine, or square Ascendant 1
Jupiter conjunct the Descendant 2
Jupiter conjunct or opposition the Vertex 2
Jupiter in aspect to the Nodes of the Moon 1
Jupiter in 7th house 2

Saturn sextile or trine Saturn 1
Saturn square or opposition Saturn -1
Saturn conjunct, square or opposition Ascendant -2
Saturn sextile or trine Ascendant 1
Saturn conjunct or opposition Vertex -2
Saturn conjunct or square Nodes of the Moon -2

Uranus conjunct Descendant or Vertex -3

Neptune conjunct Descendant, Ascendant, or Vertex -2

Pluto conjunct Descendant or Vertex 1

Ascendant conjunct Ascendant 1
Ascendant sextile or trine Ascendant 2
Ascendant square Ascendant -2
Ascendant opposition Ascendant 2
Ascendant conjunct North Node 4
Ascendant conjunct South Node 3
Ascendant trine or sextile Nodes of the Moon 2
Ascendant square Nodes of the Moon 2
Ascendant hard aspect (conjunction, semi-square, square, opposition) Sun/Moon midpoint 3
Ascendant in 7th house 3

Vertex hard aspect (conjunction, semi-square, square, opposition) Sun/Moon midpoint 3
Vertex conjunct either Node of the Moon 2

Nodes of the Moon conjunct IC/MC 3

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appleberry
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posted March 02, 2012 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://cafeastrology.com/synastry.html

Note: You do not have to actually tally up points. The points definitely help in that they assign relative weights to different factors, but another way of approaching this system is to take note of how many positions fall in each category. Note the following:

It is desirable to have:

At least one combination in the Strongest Compatibility (weight 4) category
At least 4 or 5 in the Very Strong Compatibility (weight 3) category
Zero or at most 1 in the Red Alert (weight -4) category
At most 3 in the weight -3 category
At least 3 but no more than 7 in the weight -2 category [Note that it IS desirable to have some challenging aspects in a relationship.]

Remember that some categories will be counted twice, when couples have similar aspects or positions going both ways. For example, my Sun might sextile your Mars, and your Sun might trine my Mars. Therefore we get 3 points two times over.

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SaggiMC
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posted March 03, 2012 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by White Wave:
I am new to analyzing composite charts.... So I am wondering if there is anyone with a more indepth knowledge who can point out some key aspects to this composite.....

Does anything stand out to you about this composite chart?

Especially any ideas on...
* Sun conjunct chiron conjunct lilith stellium right conjunct the IC
opposing
Venus conj. Mercury
*the saturn- jupiter-mars-pluto stellium overarching across our 8th and 9th house? in Virgo and Libra
*Neptune in 11th house



i don't like these point system methods, in fact i prefer a synastry bi wheel, composite charts are NOT the be all and end all. AND you should post your charts in PR forum.

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – (astrology)

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for synastry bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. Composite should be 85% orbs

when you get this SYNASTRY chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…

problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Abode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done

In Astrology 2.0 forum, beginners learning astrology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212463.html

in Astrology 2.0 forum, What’s next for learning (intermediate) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212464.html

In Astrology 2.0 what’s next for learning (advanced) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212465.html

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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SaggiMC
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posted March 03, 2012 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by White Wave:
I am new to analyzing composite charts.... So I am wondering if there is anyone with a more indepth knowledge who can point out some key aspects to this composite.....

Does anything stand out to you about this composite chart?

Especially any ideas on...
* Sun conjunct chiron conjunct lilith stellium right conjunct the IC
opposing
Venus conj. Mercury
*the saturn- jupiter-mars-pluto stellium overarching across our 8th and 9th house? in Virgo and Libra
*Neptune in 11th house


composite charts can be useful BUT they are NOT the be all and end all in synastry..

Basic astrology forum, How to approach Synastry http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – (astrology)

Please remember to reduce the orb ratio down to 40% (ONLY for synastry bi wheel) as the max orb between planets is 3'. Composite should be 85% orbs

when you get this SYNASTRY chart, please also post the *pdf file*, above left of chart look for *view additional tables (PDF)* This will bring up 2pages. Scroll down to last page for the *aspect grid* THIS is very important as it seems to show more aspects than is visible on the bi wheel…

problem is uploading to photobucket (or imageshack) you have to change this from Abode format into a picture/jpeg format. This is done by getting the relevant page/grid in front of you on screen then, the press ‘prtsc sysrq’ - top row inbetween pause break and F12. This has been copied to clipboard.

Paste into Paint or some other photo software. Crop the picture and save to hard drive, then upload to photobucket, select chart, press IMG and past link into thread.... all done

In Astrology 2.0 forum, beginners learning astrology http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212463.html

in Astrology 2.0 forum, What’s next for learning (intermediate) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212464.html

In Astrology 2.0 what’s next for learning (advanced) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/212465.html

if you must stick with just composites, at least DO the research properly...

Have you tried a free composite chart with explanations being 'interactive'
Composite charts
If you go to www.astro.com click on free horoscopes, go to Interactive horoscopes, go down to Astroclick partner, that will bring up a composite chart and when you put the mouse over a planet will bring up a pop up box with the interpretation......

But you do need both times of birth to be accurate though.. enjoy.

Composites describe the relationship, not either one of you, but what you came together to learn or to do and how the 'pair of you' function when together....

you 'should' reduce the orbs ratio on astro.com down to 40% as max orb in synastry and comp is 3'. Also please add transits which is easily seen once you have the chart just above to right is option 'with transits'
http://books.google.com/books?id=dUulSwQoEC4C&pg=PR16&dq=robert+hand+composites&ei=r8HRSsXNEJvmygSIsP3eCQ#v=onepage&q=&f=false

The Book ---Planets in Composite: Analyzing Human Relationships By Robert Hand-- is greatly recommended

“The composite doesn't seem to describe what either person feels about the other. In this way it is very different from synastry, which describes the chemistry between two people in terms of how they affect each other. The composite chart is like a child, a third entity which carries the genetic imprints of both parents but combines these imprints in an entirely new way and exists independently of either of them” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm

“Composites have their own laws and energies, and these have nothing to do with whether we are "well matched" with someone. A composite in itself will not tell us about compatibility. That is what synastry is for. The composite won't reveal whether the relationship is "good" or "bad" in terms of the chemistry between two people. The composite says to us, "If you choose to enter this relationship, here is its meaning and pattern of destiny” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_composit_e.htm
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html

“For example, the composite Ascendant can indicate the circumstances surrounding the first meeting or the beginning of the relationship. It can also point to how a couple initiates things together (such as projects). Similarly, the end of a relationship can be depicted by the composite twelfth house. Once a relationship kicks in (moves beyond the initial stages), the composite Sun becomes more apparent. If a commitment to each other happens, the seventh and eighth houses come more clearly into focus. As such, the conditions surrounding the planets and houses in the composite chart can show us different stages of development of the relationship over time.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/compositechart.html
click on link to read full article
http://www.astrology-numerology.com/composite.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/composite.html

“Composite charts that has ascendant and midheaven agree in element will most closely describe the type of the relationship your partnership has formed. For instance a relationship that has Taurus on the Ascendant and Capricorn on the Midheaven will closely describe a “traditional” relationship. Those charts that do not agree will keep the element of the ascendant as the primary relationship style while incorporating the element of the Midheaven into the relationship. An analysis of the individual’s chart against the composite chart will show how his or her chart meshes with the composite chart and the style of the relationship” http://starrynightastrology.com/2009/08/02/relationship-astrology-making-love-last-part-1-your-relationship-style/

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I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”

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