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Delilah
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posted March 04, 2012 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've learned that aspects between transiting Pluto to your natal Venus won't always bring love into your life, nor will transits to Juno or transiting Juno. What brought me to this revelation was a meeting with a fish man.

I fell quick and hard for him. Funny thing is that I knew what was going to happen when we first met because I felt nothing for him even after a conversation that went on for hours. For me that's a whopper of a red flag. A few conversations later and my chin was firmly planted on the ground. The psychotic voice in my head that wants to marry everyone kept saying that he was the one. Lol. Well, he isn't. He's just a fish that's going to get flattened by a frying pan and cooked up just right if he swims my way again.

Here's the astrology lesson: a few weeks ago when transiting Pluto's trine to my Venus was exact, my feelings for him began to fade. And now that it's been weeks since we last spoke, I don't want him so much anymore. Whatever I found attractive about him, except physically, no longer exists. He's just a pretty shell and that's it. This isn't to say that I don't still care for him, but my emotions are no longer intense and I know that he's not "the one".

This aspect has taught me that I deserve more than what has been offered to me in the past. I'm no longer afraid to just walk away from the scraps. T.Pluto-Venus has taught me that what I pined away for wasn't the real thing. Pluto has/is transforming me into a realist when it comes to matters of the heart.

Some people have said that they met the love of their lives during such a transit. Others have been financially fortunate. What if you don't find love during this transit? Maybe it's the universe's way of telling you that you should be the love of your life, especially if you've been hurt and disappointed time after time. Maybe you've spent too much time chasing and hoping to be swept off of your feet that you've ignored your own needs, wishing that someone would come along and fulfil them for you. Venus is about love and money. Pluto is about transformation and finally getting rid of the dead crap that's been dragging you down for so long. This is an empowering aspect that, for some of us, returns/renews a part of us that we haven't known in a long time, maybe even a lifetime.

Love is just one of the things that can happen, as well as coming into money or building a profitable business. But love isn't specific. It is what it is and can come in many different forms: self-love, romantic love, family love, deep friendships, etc. During this transit, you can learn that there's more out there waiting for you than prince/princess charming. Whatever you find out there could probably stand the test of time far better than someone you expected to merge with romantically.

Well, this is what I think. Anyone care to add on or peacefully debate the above?

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posted March 04, 2012 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How fascinating.
I will be having tPluto oppo nVenus,and not having oppositions natally,(only a 7 degree separating orb) I am really looking forward to this

What you have described fit prefectly with Plutonian themes,especially realising your true love nature

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posted March 04, 2012 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you are really honest what you say;

I liked you. I love when someone accepts and comprehends pluto's facts especially when it is about being alone - STAND ALONE -. People who always look for "love" are the weak ones, the ones who cant live by themselves. The real strenght comes from inside, the hardest one is being alone and resisting all challenges. You learned your true lesson. You died and had rebirth, when you listen the REAL pluto's message, you come back with WEALTH.. the Spiritual and inner WEALTH. Now you deserve more than the ones who looks for love. Probably you will find it but you dont need it. Now it is time for Universe's to play his role; to reward you - maybe it already did -. You would be good student of mine about that topics . Not bad.

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posted March 04, 2012 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know what?

I had almost the exact same thing happen to me when tPluto was applying trine to my Venus. I met a guy, thought he was great, wonderful conversations, the works... But a few weeks in, I realized that he didn't really see ME, and that was what I wanted. Someone who really valued ME. Plus, there were personality factors of his that I knew I couldn't change, so I just walked. It was the best decision for me.

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posted March 04, 2012 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
[b]If you are really honest what you say;

I liked you. I love when someone accepts and comprehends pluto's facts especially when it is about being alone - STAND ALONE -. People who always look for "love" are the weak ones, the ones who cant live by themselves. The real strenght comes from inside, the hardest one is being alone and resisting all challenges. You learned your true lesson. You died and had rebirth, when you listen the REAL pluto's message, you come back with WEALTH.. the Spiritual and inner WEALTH. Now you deserve more than the ones who looks for love. Probably you will find it but you dont need it. Now it is time for Universe's to play his role; to reward you - maybe it already did -. You would be good student of mine about that topics . Not bad.[/B]


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posted March 04, 2012 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireWire     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
[b]If you are really honest what you say;

I liked you. I love when someone accepts and comprehends pluto's facts especially when it is about being alone - STAND ALONE -. People who always look for "love" are the weak ones, the ones who cant live by themselves. The real strenght comes from inside, the hardest one is being alone and resisting all challenges. You learned your true lesson. You died and had rebirth, when you listen the REAL pluto's message, you come back with WEALTH.. the Spiritual and inner WEALTH. Now you deserve more than the ones who looks for love. Probably you will find it but you dont need it. Now it is time for Universe's to play his role; to reward you - maybe it already did -. You would be good student of mine about that topics . Not bad.[/B]


Fantastic!

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posted March 04, 2012 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by VenusDiSirius:
How fascinating.
I will be having tPluto oppo nVenus,and not having oppositions natally,(only a 7 degree separating orb) I am really looking forward to this

What you have described fit prefectly with Plutonian themes,especially realising your true love nature


Oh... An opposition would probably have me stocking up on armoury out of fear. Please let us know what happens when your transit comes around. It's not the same for everyone, obviously.

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posted March 04, 2012 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
[b]If you are really honest what you say;

I liked you. I love when someone accepts and comprehends pluto's facts especially when it is about being alone - STAND ALONE -. People who always look for "love" are the weak ones, the ones who cant live by themselves. The real strenght comes from inside, the hardest one is being alone and resisting all challenges. You learned your true lesson. You died and had rebirth, when you listen the REAL pluto's message, you come back with WEALTH.. the Spiritual and inner WEALTH. Now you deserve more than the ones who looks for love. Probably you will find it but you dont need it. Now it is time for Universe's to play his role; to reward you - maybe it already did -. You would be good student of mine about that topics . Not bad.[/B]


Aww, shucks. *Blushing*

I have to be honest with myself because lying to myself for so long has caused too much disappointment. I'm not looking for love anymore, but will keep myself open to it. I finally know what love isn't and am now figuring out what it is. When you look for it, you invite all kinds of garbage in. So, I'm done chasing.

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Delilah
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posted March 04, 2012 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by enchantress299:
You know what?

I had almost the exact same thing happen to me when tPluto was applying trine to my Venus. I met a guy, thought he was great, wonderful conversations, the works... But a few weeks in, I realized that he didn't really see ME, and that was what I wanted. Someone who really valued ME. Plus, there were personality factors of his that I knew I couldn't change, so I just walked. It was the best decision for me.


Thankfully, the trine is gentle in teaching. Tears couldn't even form for him because deep down I know he's not worth them. So far, I'm getting along with this aspect.

I also ended a friendship that's lasted for nearly half of my life. I saw her actions for what they were and that she really didn't wish anyone well. She always played the victim in even the smallest of disagreements and caused so much drama for everyone around her. Didn't feel bad at all about giving her the boot.

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posted March 05, 2012 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Delilah, wow I currnetly have t pluto conj my moon 0 deg and trine my venus 2 deg both applying. I know that conj to the moon is making this a lot more intense. I just met a man who I have major pluto and nodal contacts with, the attraction is incredible, but its new so dont know where thats going yet.
I also got rid of one of my best girlfriends because she is a toxic destructive person(a very low, unevolved scorp rising). We've been friends for most of our lives, but just 2 weeks ago I realized I could not stomach her drama and negativity any longer and I got rid of her completely. I refuse to even answer her calls. I cut her out of my life. Pluto always helps me get rid of things/people like that.
9 years ago when t pluto squared my venus I finally got the courage to get rid of my abusive x husband who was also a very negative scorpio/plutonic type.

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Delilah,
What was Saturn doing at this time? how is your natal venus aspected?? these are very important questions, as ALL transits simply set off natal aspects.
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Love is just one of the things that can happen, as well as coming into money or building a profitable business. But love isn't specific. It is what it is and can come in many different forms: self-love, romantic love, family love, deep friendships, etc. During this transit, you can learn that there's more out there waiting for you than prince/princess charming. Whatever you find out there could probably stand the test of time far better than someone you expected to merge with romantically.

this to me sounds like your saturn talking, and a does of reality check from the Lord of Karma

Venus can signify money, but sign house and apsect, but also friendships like you said. A deep friendship is worth it's weight in gold and see you through troubled times. you also learnt the Lesson of fare weather friends to. Was your N Node being activated?

what houses to venus rule and what house does scorpio rule.
Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

do you want to post your chart?

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posted March 05, 2012 09:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i think i have this now but not exact anymore.

tpluto 9 degs capricorn

natal venus in 6 degs taurus

but then tsaturn is opposing my natal venus too so this may cancel out any potential new lovers or wealth.

tnorthnode is in my 2nd house almost conjunct my uranus.

i dunno if that is bad but anything uranus freaks me out.

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posted March 05, 2012 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Delilah, wow I currnetly have t pluto conj my moon 0 deg and trine my venus 2 deg both applying. I know that conj to the moon is making this a lot more intense. I just met a man who I have major pluto and nodal contacts with, the attraction is incredible, but its new so dont know where thats going yet.
I also got rid of one of my best girlfriends because she is a toxic destructive person(a very low, unevolved scorp rising). We've been friends for most of our lives, but just 2 weeks ago I realized I could not stomach her drama and negativity any longer and I got rid of her completely. I refuse to even answer her calls. I cut her out of my life. Pluto always helps me get rid of things/people like that.
9 years ago when t pluto squared my venus I finally got the courage to get rid of my abusive x husband who was also a very negative scorpio/plutonic type.

I haven't checked my former friend's natal chart. Don't really want to. However, I do remember reading about a transit, can't remember for sure which planets, that said I am going through a period where I will end relationships that no longer work for me. I think Pluto was involved.

She might be a Scorpio Rising or have a boat load of Scorpio drama going on because she's way too intense for her Sagittarius Sun. She's possessive, especially when a guy is involved. I swear jealousy could be her first name.

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posted March 05, 2012 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the sag could have venus in scorpio..

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posted March 05, 2012 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Delilah,
What was Saturn doing at this time? how is your natal venus aspected?? these are very important questions, as ALL transits simply set off natal aspects.
this to me sounds like your saturn talking, and a does of reality check from the Lord of Karma

Venus can signify money, but sign house and apsect, but also friendships like you said. A deep friendship is worth it's weight in gold and see you through troubled times. you also learnt the Lesson of fare weather friends to. Was your N Node being activated?

what houses to venus rule and what house does scorpio rule.
Researching rulers of houses will help you understand more where I joining the dots so to speak http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/rulersofhousesinhouses.html http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm

do you want to post your chart?



Saturn was and still is in my 9H conjunct Pluto and my MC. Before my little lesson occurred, T.Chiron was opposite my natal Venus, as well as T.Mercury. Also, T.Jupiter and Pluto trined my Venus.

This chart is when communication was cut off between me and someone, which later caused me to come to my theory:

The next chart is around the time when I accepted that it was for a reason. The trine between Venus and T.Pluto is no longer exact.

Let me know what you see.

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posted March 05, 2012 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by s4nd:
the sag could have venus in scorpio..

I think she does. Not all that interested in anything that has to do with her right now. It's nice to not have someone around who constantly tries to start arguments.

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posted October 04, 2012 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for C1ND3R     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted October 04, 2012 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paulflo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have a venus/pluto conjunction transit in my first house and i have never known such emotional turmoil and good sex in my life..

i have given up having "normal" relations instead im enjoying it for what it is and giving every good scorpio i know a good run his/her money..

who says aquarians can't be sexy!

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posted October 04, 2012 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfairy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When Transiting Pluto aspects your natal Venus...

...you are no longer satisfied with superficial relationship; you want something deep, complex, and consuming. Pluto is the planet of "death", therefore there is usually a death of some kind in regards to relationships (i.e. death of an existing relationship, death of previous relationship behaviors). For example this influence can also bring about an affair, or finding out one's partner has been having an affair. This is a very "sexy" transit, and the attractions you have during this transit are often intense and obsessive, and sexual drives are generally strong. Under this influence, you often meet a person with whom you have a life-changing and complex relationship. You feel magically drawn to this person, and might not understand why. This is because Pluto represents the unconscious, so your feelings for this person are generally the result of unconscious forces you find difficult to control. You might feel obsessed and possessive over this person, as Pluto brings an "all or nothing" energy to your relationships. Power struggles are thus common under this influence.

The physical component of the relationship is generally very strong; the need for physical closeness under this transit is intense. Pluto also represents the taboo, and the forbidden, so one is often attracted to unavailable partners under the influence of this transit (i.e. married, gay/lesbian, people from different areas). One thing this transit guarantees is personal evolution; we evolve through these relationships, as they uncover areas of our personalities we often keep hidden, and will teach you about personal intimacy. If partners separate, the passion and intensity they once shared is difficult to forget. The relationships under this transit can also be financially or sexually exploitative, or even emotionally/sexually abusive, as Pluto represents domination, power, and control. The people you attract under this influence are generally Scorpio-like/Plutonian, and the synastry often reveals strong Pluto aspects and/or Scorpio placements.
http://astrolady.wix.com/astrolady#!when-will-i-find-love-part-1/cq2b

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posted October 04, 2012 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paulflo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
great post and very true

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posted October 04, 2012 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for paulflo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i am currently seeing 2 ex girlfriends who i share alot of chemistry with, that is very hard to break..both of them i have met under this transit influence and both of them i will never have again (in an emotional sense) because they are both gay/bi..

maybe its about having something good then losing it and just hanging on and on.

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