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SaggiMC
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posted March 10, 2012 06:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think this is used enough (certainly around here)

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Part of Fortune

In astrology, the Part of Fortune, sometimes called Fortuna, is the most popular Arabic Part. Arabic Parts are sensitive points in a chart, and are calculated using specific formulas whereby two planets or points are added together, and a third planet or point is subtracted from that result.

The Part of Fortune is calculated as follows:

For day charts, Ascendant + Moon - Sun

For night charts, Ascendant + Sun - Moon

Note that a chart is considered a day chart when the Sun is above the horizon (occupying any house from house 7 to 12), and a night chart when the Sun is below the horizon (occupying any of the first six houses).

The Part of Fortune represents worldly success, and is associated with the physical body and health as well. It can be indicative of the career or vocation. The condition and placement of the ruling planet of the Part of Fortune (that is, the natural ruler of the sign in which the Part of Fortune is placed) is important to factor into the interpretation of this Arabic part. Worldly success and prosperity are associated with the Part of Fortune, and both its sign and house placement suggests innate abilities and talents--areas of life and qualities that are expressed naturally.

The Part of Fortune lies the same distance in longitude from the Ascendant as the Moon lies from the Sun. Therefore, if for example the Sun is conjunct the Moon in the natal chart, the Part of Fortune will lie close to the Ascendant; and if the Sun and Moon are in opposition in the natal chart, the Part of Fortune will lie close to the Descendant.

It is interesting to note that the Arabic part, the Part of Spirit, is calculated in an opposite manner, and also symbolizes the reverse or opposite theme of spiritual well-being.

If the Part of Fortune is not listed or included in your natal chart wheel, you can calculate the Part of Fortune (and other Arabic Parts) with this online Arabic Part Calculator. It's easy and accurate.

Keys to the Interpretation of the Part of Fortune:
As noted above, the Part of Fortune points to innate talents that set us on a path to worldly success. First look to any planets or points that are tightly conjunct or opposite the Part of Fortune as significators of vocation, career, and natural talents--keys to success.
Second, determine the ruling planet of the sign of the Part of Fortune, and consider that planet as another significator.
Consider the sign and house placement of the Part of Fortune as qualities and areas of life where we possess natural and innate talents or abilities, and that can be considered keys to worldly success and prosperity.
Look to any planets or points posited in the same sign as the Part of Fortune, whether or not they are conjunct the point. These will also play a role in our profession.http://www.cafeastrology.com/partoffortune.html


just found a site for calculating this and many more Parts or Lots -- http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php

"Some formulas listed here have both an AM and PM version. The PM version is a reverse of the AM version and when indicated, persons born in the daytime (Sun in 7th - 12th houses) should use the AM formula while persons born in the evening (Sun in 1st - 6th houses) should use the PM formula. Sometimes it's best to try both formulas."
Check the placement of the Sun in the chart, it must be sensibly placed relative to the horizon for the given time of day. For a day birth, the Sun must be above the horizon.

From astro.com explanations on POF
We use different formulae for Pars Fortunae for a day birth than for a night birth. You can change this rule with an option in the extended chart selection.
The day formula is: ASC + Moon - Sun
The night formula: ASC + Sun - Moon
Astrologers differ in their views about which formula to use for Pars Fortunae.
If you're interested in in-depth information, please read the article "The Lot or Part of Fortune" by Robert Hand in our "Understanding Astrology" section.

“The Part of Fortune represents worldly success, and is associated with the physical body and health as well. It can be indicative of the career or vocation. Worldly success and prosperity are associated with the Part of Fortune, and both its sign and house placement suggests innate abilities and talents--areas of life and qualities that are expressed naturally.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/partoffortune.html

POF http://www.astrotherapy.eu/ParsFortunae.htm http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-5210.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpOVfJmEFH4 http://www.arlenekramer.net/astrology8.asp
last one is POF conj planets

“However, in the case of both significations one must keep in mind that no one indication in the chart, not even the Part of Fortune, can be taken by itself as a total indicator of any area of life. For health one must also look at the Ascendant, its ruler, the Moon and its ruler. Also the sixth and eighth houses as indicators of illness and death respectively have strong indications for health. For material prosperity one should also look at the second house, the tenth house, and their rulers.” http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_fortune_e.htm

“The fortune indicated by this part is not necessarily materialistic or even tangible, though it can be. It depends on the sign and house location of the Part of Fortune. The benefit can be on the physical, intellectual, emotional, and/or spiritual plane of experience. In all cases it is through the cultivation and expression of this point that one will experience harmony and a sense of well-being.” http://www.astroresources.com/fortune.htm

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PART OF FORTUNE IN THE HOUSES OF YOUR BIRTH CHART

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Part of Fortune in 1st House

Part of Fortune in the First House suggests that your greatest success will come by developing independence and self-sufficiency - meeting life experience with individual initiative and not being dependent on the views of others.

Part of Fortune in 2nd House

Suggests that you need to discover what is of real value to you. Money and the things it will buy are of extreme importance, but only insofar as how your possessions reflect true value. You can be extremely lucky with money if it truly reflects a sincere value. Eventually you will develop an ability to see what is personally meaningful and necessary.

Part of Fortune in 3rd House

You will have the ability to meet the obstacles found within your immediate environment and deal effectively with them. Developing the ability to think clearly is what will bring your greatest fortune.

Part of Fortune in 4th House

The feeling for home and roots will be strong. Happiness will come through building an emotional foundation strong enough to support future growth. This position gives the possibility of finding fulfilment in a broader way through identification with a social, professional or national whole.

Part of Fortune in 5th House

Success usually comes from the growth of creative abilities, or in a will to power. Great joy comes from being deeply and intensely involved in all that you are able to create. With this placing you must be very discriminating with your choice of friends.

Part of Fortune in 6th House

Happiness may be found in work, self-improvement and self-discipline. You will be at your best during times of crisis because of an ability to take the correct action. Great joy will come from developing your natural abilities and using them constructively in whatever field of work or service you may be involved.

Part of Fortune in 7th House

Happiness is found in important human relationships that give a sense of direction and meaning to life. With this placing, luck and good fortune usually come through other people.

Part of Fortune in 8th House

Happiness will come through your ability for financial management, especially other people s financial affairs - such as banking, contractual agreements, business, marriage, etc. Luck and good fortune will be bestowed on you by other people.

Part of Fortune in 9th House

Happiness will come from a search for truth and the deep study of such subjects as sociology, psychology, religion and metaphysical law. There is also a possibility of distant travels.

Part of Fortune in 10th House

You will seek happiness through accomplishment and in fulfilling a constructive role in society.

Part of Fortune in 11th House

You may have the urge to be a reformer or pioneer of new social, cultural or spiritual values. Happiness will come from contact with bright, intelligent people or friends who stimulate your imagination with inspired ideas and noble concepts.

Part of Fortune in 12th House

You may find happiness in accepting and thus transforming or dissolving your Karma to complete a cycle of experience. The achievements of this cycle may become the seeds or foundation of a new cycle. In an 'occult' sense, you may even find it possible to reach 'personal immortality', so that what you are as a formed mind is able to survive the disintegration of the physical body. You will find great happiness and joy through periods of solitude for meditation and attunement with your inner self.


http://www.horoscopeswithin.com/partoffortuneinhouses.php

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Part of Fortune and Planets

The last few Advanced Astrology columns have been devoted to the Part of Fortune, or Pars Fortuna, as an outgrowth of the Lunation Cycle. The Part of Fortune was described in its relation to the house placements and sign placements. Just as with any other zodiacal sensitive point, the Part of Fortune can also be defined in its relationship to other zodiacal elements, such as the planets.

Any planet in conjunction with the Part of Fortune will yield an increase in the potency of that planet. This is the aspect most clearly seen. A planet in opposition to the Part of Fortune will yield a form of detachment in the use of that planet. A planet in square to the Part of Fortune sometimes indicates that the planet is involved in the drive to achieve the happiness promised by the Part of Fortune. Trines to the Part of Fortune indicate that the way is made easy for the person to find his happiness and success. Remember, please, that it takes the whole chart to tell you the potentials in a person's life. Let us look at some examples of the meanings of a planet as it makes major aspects with the attributes of the Part of Fortune.

Sun and the Part of Fortune: When you see a horoscope where the Sun is conjunct the Part of Fortune, remember how we arrive at the Part of Fortune. The Ascendant and the Moon and the Sun itself combine to show us where the avenue to happiness, success, and sheer joy is located. We look to the house, we look to the sign, and now we look to the planet to tell us more. When the Sun is conjunct the Part of Fortune, the person can shine with his whole being in response to the solar illumination.

Moon and the Part of Fortune: If a person is born at sunrise, the Part of Fortune will be conjunct the Moon; if he is born at sunset, the Part of Fortune will be opposite the Moon. Remember how we arrive at the Part of Fortune! The emotional nature, nurturing nature, security themes, or public life will be an avenue for achieving Part of Fortune happiness and success.

Mercury and the Part of Fortune: If Mercury is with the Part of Fortune, this person will use his mental faculties and an intellectual approach in finding his happiness and success. He will also find it extremely easy to communicate, either in speech or writing.

Venus and the Part of Fortune: If Venus is with the Part of Fortune, the potency of Venus will be enhanced, and the person will have tremendous personal charm. He will probably also be good looking. Harmony and balance come easily to him.


Mars and the Part of Fortune: If Mars is with the Part of Fortune, the potency of Mars will be enhanced in its more positive forms. The person with this conjunction will exhibit assertive and pioneering qualities instinctively. He will be able to focus on one endeavor at a time, and work at it by himself to completion.

Jupiter and the Part of Fortune: If Jupiter is conjunct the Part of Fortune, the potency of Jupiter will be enhanced in all of its positive forms. The person with this conjunction will be naturally optimistic, certain that all situations will turn out fine, and in general happy with every day as they take him closer to success and wealth and joy.

Saturn and the Part of Fortune: If Saturn is conjunct the Part of Fortune, the potency of the positive attributes of Saturn will be enhanced. The person with this conjunction will have a serious approach to life, with a sense of determination to fulfill his destiny, and a sense of responsibility to the world. Both Benjamin Franklin and George Washington had this conjunction.

Uranus and the Part of Fortune: If Uranus is conjunct the Part of Fortune, the potency of Uranus will be enhanced. The person with this conjunction will be innovative, original, unique, and inventive. This conjunction might even indicate a potential for learning Astrology. This person would also have gifts and talents when involved with scientific technology and computers.

Neptune and the Part of Fortune: If Neptune is conjunct the Part of Fortune, happiness and success will come easily to the person who uses Neptune in positive ways. Positive outlets are those of metaphysics, spiritual work, the arts, music, marine life, underwater exploration, and space exploration.

Pluto and the Part of Fortune: If Pluto is conjunct the Part of Fortune, the potency of Pluto will be enhanced in its positive forms. The person with this conjunction can find happiness and success in all forms of detective work, ranging from crime solving to investigating the atom, from studying genetic engineering to manipulating DNA to cure cancer and AIDS. He can study the mysteries of life in order to transform and improve life on Earth for all mankind.


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PART OF FORTUNE:
PART TWO

by ARLENE A. KRAMER

In a previous article, I described the most familiar of the Arabic Parts, the Part of Fortune or Pars Fortuna, as the area in the natal horoscope where the owner of the horoscope feels that "good fortune" is smiling upon him. I indicated that the Part of Fortune, when calculated, shows up as a zodiacal placement (degree/sign/minutes.) It therefore is in a particular house, depending upon its zodiacal position.

I described the significance of the Part of Fortune when it is located in houses one through five. Here is a continuation of the discussion of the meaning of the Part of Fortune in each of the remaining houses of the natal horoscope.
PART OF FORTUNE IN THE FIRST HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the first house is a person who was born at or just after a New Moon, and, as such, carries the characteristics of a New Moon personality. He has a strongly individual way of meeting life's situations. If he places himself and his unique achievements out where they will be seen, he should have great success and happiness. This is a person who wants to stand out in his own way. He has the charm and human magnetism of the sign on the Ascendant.

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE SECOND HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the second house has the drive, the patience, and the endurance and willingness to use his personal assets, talents, abilities, and efforts to strive for financial success. He feels happy when he draws money, possessions, collections, to himself, and he should not feel guilty about doing so. He needs these things with which to express himself. The Part of Fortune in the second house is good for money. The person has a concern for financial security but he need never worry about it.

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE THIRD HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the third house has a need to communicate and a need to relate to his surroundings, community, family. The third house Part of Fortune gives him the ability to fill both of these needs. Often we find this placement in the charts of teachers, writers, speakers, newspaper reporters, and others who express themselves well with words. He is happiest when he can convey his ideas and feelings to others.

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE FOURTH HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the fourth house needs a sense of home, roots, security, and stability to be totally happy. This does not mean that he needs a house to call his home. His home can be an ideal, a person, an atmosphere that he can feel is solid and solidly behind him. He can then go on to find fulfillment in a tenth house professional identification. These people are usually very patriotic with strong feelings for home, homeland, and parents. The Part of Fortune in the fourth house usually means that the person will be wealthy in the last third of his life.

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE FIFTH HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the fifth house has creative and emotional energies overflowing. He needs to express these, and finds great satisfaction in creative or artistic activity.

He is attracted to adventurous enterprises. He has luck with speculations and with children. This person has strong abilities in creative fields of art, drama, theater, music, literature, and invention. He needs to pour himself into what he is doing, and he needs appreciation and applause.

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE SIXTH HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the sixth house was born just prior to a Full Moon. He is interested in self-improvement and self-discipline so that he can function with such efficiency that he does not have to pay attention to the daily details of life. His mind is on bigger things. Here is a person who seeks the injustices in life so that he may serve to improve others' lives. He can serve people who are confined to hospitals or prisons, or fight for animals' rights, or lead a group of workers in a labor union. This is Virgo's house. Think of doctor, nurse, veterinarian, soldier, sailor.

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE SEVENTH HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the seventh house was born soon after a Full Moon. He is a person who is so idealistic that he wants to see only the best in everything, in every person, in every situation, even in every problem. He is looking for quality in all his relationships because he is really seeking personal illumination. He would like to know his purpose in life. His personality shines through his relationships and partnerships. The Part of Fortune in the seventh house might lead to partnerships with wealthy people.

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE EIGHTH HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the eighth house is like a walking testimonial to eighth house matters if he uses this placement correctly. He is interested in the occult, has good powers of regeneration and rejuvenation, and can be an expert at investigation, research, detective work. He can keep a secret so well that he is like an international diplomat, and he can indeed earn a living this way. This person can also make a living based on the talents and abilities of others, as a theatrical agent or manage other people's money. This person is usually very attractive, due to personal magnetism.

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE NINTH HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the ninth house usually finds expression through travel, philosophy, higher education, philosophical thought, spirituality, or publishing. He may find his fortunes far from home. This person can profit through and from people at a distance. His studies bring insights to him which he uses to help other people. This is a person who can be a natural clairvoyant as well. Most of this person's labors are mental. This is a person who is always broadening his vistas and expanding his education

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE TENTH HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the tenth house knows, deep down, that he must fulfill his role in society. He chooses a field where he can be a Professional Person. This person needs a place in the outside world, where his status and position is high and his name is associated with the field that he is in. This is the house of recognition and public standing, of career and ambition, of success and responsibility. Remember, this is Capricorn's house, so the person whose Part of Fortune is here is not afraid of hard work and effort if there is a goal to be reached.

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE ELEVENTH HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the eleventh house is usually way ahead of the time in which he lives when it comes to his mentality, his dreams, hopes, goals, and his view of the world. This is a person who thinks in terms of Brotherhood, altruistic unity, Humanitarian values. He wants to do things that benefit society as a whole. This is why he sometimes sees himself as a reformer of sorts, improving social, cultural, or spiritual values in those around him. He wants better conditions for his community as well as for humanity.

PART OF FORTUNE IN THE TWELFTH HOUSE:

The person with his Part of Fortune in the twelfth house has a unique opportunity to transform or dissolve his own Karma. This is a person who has mediumistic talents and the gift of prophecy. His dreams often give him answers. His flair for spirituality, mysticism, illusion, and fantasy can be productive in film, television, and works of fiction. Though he may not know it when it happens, his enemies will frequently change their attitude from hostility to neutrality, and sometimes even to benevolence. He is generally unaware of his good fortune. The person with his Part of Fortune in the twelfth house is treated well by health-care professionals.


The Part of Fortune's meaning, just like a planet's meaning, is sensitive to house placement, as just shown. It is also sensitive, just like a planet is, to the sign of the zodiac in which it finds itself. In a future article, as we continue our investigation of the meanings of the Part of Fortune, we will look at the Part of Fortune in each of the twelve signs.
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POF in signs
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#Part of Fortune in ARIES: The characteristic style of the sign Aries is action: boldly, confidently, self-assertively. Aries exercises initiative. The person with the Part of Fortune in Aries will achieve happiness and success through innovative and creative efforts.

Part of Fortune in TAURUS: The characteristic style of the sign Taurus is productivity, with a need to perceive tangible results. The person with the Part of Fortune in Taurus is cautious and practical in his pursuit of happiness and success.

Part of Fortune in GEMINI: The characteristic style of Gemini is to reach out and communicate. The person with the Part of Fortune in Gemini uses his communication skills and his ability to learn as he pursues happiness and success.

Part of Fortune in CANCER: The characteristic style of Cancer is warm, nurturing, and maternal. The person with the Part of Fortune in Cancer seeks security in the domestic circle. For him, security is essential for happiness and success.

Part of Fortune in LEO: The characteristic style of Leo is showy, grand, and generous. Leo has self-assurance and leadership ability. Leo acts self-expressively, dramatically, and creatively. The person with the Part of Fortune in Leo needs recognition from others to feel happy and successful.

Part of Fortune in VIRGO: The characteristic style of Virgo is intellectual, analytical, conservative, and always seeking perfection. The person with the Part of Fortune in Virgo uses his mastery of details to attain happiness and success.

Part of Fortune in LIBRA: The characteristic style of Libra is one of beauty, balance, fairness, and justice. The person with the Part of Fortune in Libra seeks his happiness and success in relationships such as marriage and partnership.

Part of Fortune in SCORPIO: The characteristic style of Scorpio is secretive and intense. For the person with the Part of Fortune in Scorpio, no plan or plot is too complex to use in his pursuit of happiness and success.

Part of Fortune in SAGITTARIUS: The characteristic style of Sagittarius is adventurous and expansive. The person with the Part of Fortune in Sagittarius will achieve happiness and success by reaching out to vaster mental and philosophical horizons.

Part of Fortune in CAPRICORN: The characteristic style of Capricorn is serious and hard-working. The person with the Part of Fortune in Capricorn will find his happiness and success through hard work, determination, and achievement of goals.

Part of Fortune in AQUARIUS: The characteristic style of Aquarius is idealistic, innovative, and unique. The person with the Part of Fortune in Aquarius will find his happiness and success by making a contribution or invention that is of benefit to all.

Part of Fortune in PISCES: The characteristic style of Pisces is spiritual and mystical. The person with the Part of Fortune in Pisces will find happiness and success by concentrating on higher ideals.

We all know that there are positive and negative attributes to every planet and sign. (Determined is positive; obstinate is negative, etc.) The Part of Fortune, located in a sign, mitigates the negative attributes inherent in that sign. While the sign placement of the Part of Fortune, as described above, is important, it is my personal opinion that the house placement of the Part of Fortune, as described in previous articles, is far more important. http://www.arlenekramer.net/astrology7.asp



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Originally posted by s4nd:
saggi mc, what is the allowable orb for a conjunct to POF?

Orbs can be rather contentious matters as you know, but I would probably use quite tight, about 3' bit like asteriods. Obviously like with aspects the tighter the orb the stronger if will be felt.

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Thank you 4 the info saggimc it is very helpful.

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POF has the same meaning to Tyche and Fortuna... which to use?

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
POF has the same meaning to Tyche and Fortuna... which to use?

I've never heard of 'tyche' and fortuna is sometimes an alternative name as POF

please re read my first post...

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On astro they have a full section on Parts http://www.astro.com/astrology/in_fortune_e.htm

which I have already included in the synastry thread in Basic forum http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000667.html
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Part of marriage women (1) Asc + Saturn - venus
Part of marriage women (2) Asc + mars – moon

Part of marriage man (1) Asc + venus – Saturn
Part of marriage man (2) Asc + venus – sun

Lot of Children
Day Lot = Asc. + Sa - Ju
Night Lot = Asc. + Ju - Sa http://www.noendpress.com/pvachier/arabicparts/index.php
the above link will calculate for you

The point being is to see if any natal planets is in same degree eg: 3'5" taurus would be same as 3'5" in ANY fixed sign and is considered conjunct. Then a passing transit, progressions or even solar arc could activate this point. All depends if it's the benefic Jupiter, venus etc OR malefic planet like saturn, uranus, neptune, pluto


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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
I've never heard of 'tyche' and fortuna is sometimes an alternative name as POF

please re read my first post...


Yes... you mentioned that POF is also known as Fortuna but what I meant was the two could have different signs and in different houses so it may be confusing which to refer when reading charts... I understand that POF is a mathematical point; Fortuna is a Roman asteroid and Tyche is a Greek asteroid refering to a Greek Goddness of Fortune...

For example, I have:
My Tyche is @ Pisces 9'18 in 6th house
My Pars of Fortune is @ Aries 21'37 in 7th house
My Fortuna is @ Virgo 20'23 in 12th house


So this is where I have been confused...

Not to mention there is Jupiter @ Virgo 11'4 which is also refering to general luck and fortune as it brings fortune to planets it aspects.

What do you think about when to use which?

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Originally posted by lilithpluto:
double post..

I'm not yet convinced of the validity of asteriods and specs of dust, so I would simply use the astro.com version where you select POF in bottom left box, as this IS the mainstream view...

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My POF and my NN are together in my 5th House of Cancer. I assume I am meant to play the nuturing maternal role for my sons' creative abilities. Am I correct?

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After seriously reading over all these posts I know I am currently on the right track in life.

I have part of fortune in Libra conjunct Pluto in the 11th house. I am currently putting together a non-profit organization (11th house humanitarian issues groups) with the goal of using arts "Libra-beauty" and working with my close friends to create art and books and take the funds to give back to those in need. The art and books alone will transform people and the money gathered will in turn do the same!

I feel good right now knowing I am going to be able to help others through creative free flowing expression! :0)

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posted November 29, 2012 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, thank you so much SaggiMC !

My POF is located in 7th (in Saggitarius), conjunct Neptune and Tyche, trine jupiter in 12th (Aries), trine Fortuna in 4th (Leo), sextile venus in 6th (Libra) and oppose moon in 1rst (Gemini).

And yet I STILL haven't figured out what to do with my life on a professional level. I'm such a desperate case

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yvetterocks101
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posted November 30, 2012 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for yvetterocks101     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have my POF in Scorpio in conjunction with Pluto in the 4 house and sextile my sun really tight in the 6th house. I think this put it down perfectly, I'm right know pursuing criminology in school. I always had a obsession in watching those criminology show and always stay in wonder why people commit the things they do. I always hold a fascination in watching show or reading them mostly in the psychological way. I think that has to do with me having this aspect in the 4th house so its in my natural being to be perceptive and wanting to look deeper into things .

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posted December 01, 2012 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JLyn ~     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the post!

I have port of fortune in 2nd- and I really do know my self worth and how good my heart is without question, money does get handed to me in hard times and I truly feel blessed because of it

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StacyLewis
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posted December 01, 2012 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StacyLewis     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is one of those areas of astrology (and even my own chart), where I'm almost clueless, because I can't even say with certainty where my POF, is in the first place. Apparently there's more than one formula, and you get drastically different results depending on which formula you use.

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posted July 26, 2013 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eyes_like_pisces     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone help me understand my/our POF better?

I think I have POF at 10 cancer in opposite 9th house. And I think my boyfriend has POF at 17 Aries in opposite 7th house.

If I'm right he has his POF conjunct my Juno exactly. And I'm wondering what to make of that?

Both our suns are on the south hemisphere (1-6) I used Astro.com and clicked the day/night formula.

If I wasn't suppose to click that then he would have his Vertex at 28 pisces conjunct my POF at 28 pisces. And his POF would have conj my groom (i think).

If any one can help i'd appreciate it, thanks!!!!

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posted July 26, 2013 10:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The person with his Part of Fortune in the twelfth house has a unique opportunity to transform or dissolve his own Karma. This is a person who has mediumistic talents and the gift of prophecy. His dreams often give him answers. His flair for spirituality, mysticism, illusion, and fantasy can be productive in film, television, and works of fiction. Though he may not know it when it happens, his enemies will frequently change their attitude from hostility to neutrality, and sometimes even to benevolence. He is generally unaware of his good fortune. The person with his Part of Fortune in the twelfth house is treated well by health-care professionals.


WOW PRETTY SPOT ON. They do treat me well. Kind of spoil me


Mine is in gemini in the 12th house conjunct my gemini sun in the 12th.

Mine is in the 29th degree.

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Gemini sun 12th.(Gemini/cancer cusp)
Cancer asc 1st
Taurus moon 11th
Taurus venus 11th
Libra mars 3rd
Gemini mercury 11th

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posted July 26, 2013 10:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Part of Fortune in 12th House

You may find happiness in accepting and thus transforming or dissolving your Karma to complete a cycle of experience. The achievements of this cycle may become the seeds or foundation of a new cycle. In an 'occult' sense, you may even find it possible to reach 'personal immortality', so that what you are as a formed mind is able to survive the disintegration of the physical body. You will find great happiness and joy through periods of solitude for meditation and attunement with your inner self.


WOW SO TRUE!!!!

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Sun and the Part of Fortune: When you see a horoscope where the Sun is conjunct the Part of Fortune, remember how we arrive at the Part of Fortune. The Ascendant and the Moon and the Sun itself combine to show us where the avenue to happiness, success, and sheer joy is located. We look to the house, we look to the sign, and now we look to the planet to tell us more. When the Sun is conjunct the Part of Fortune, the person can shine with his whole being in response to the solar illumination.

COOL!!!!

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posted July 26, 2013 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Part of Fortune in 11th House

You may have the urge to be a reformer or pioneer of new social, cultural or spiritual values. Happiness will come from contact with bright, intelligent people or friends who stimulate your imagination with inspired ideas and noble concepts.


True for me. Especially on the Internet - I love networking and having virtual friends who stimulate my imagination =). I have Mars in Capricorn conjunct POF in 11th house.

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