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Ami Anne
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posted March 11, 2012 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been seeing the validity of Chiron more and more as I do charts. I know we have had this topic many times but please share your experience!

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Chiron in the Houses
By amiann | Published: December 29, 2011 | Edit

Chiron is more House dependent than sign dependent. As such, I will write about Chiron in the Houses. Please, comment, about your house placement, if you care to.

Chiron in the 1st house– This placement seems to indicate childhood bullying, in many, many cases. Chiron in the 1st house would be a outer manifestation of Chiron. It would be akin to wearing Chiron on your sleeve, for all the world to see. The Chiron wound could be physical such as a scar or deformity.It could be emotional such as emotional illness. Whatever it is, it is visible to others. As such, this is one of the hardest Chiron placements.

Chiron in the 2nd house–The 2nd house rules the material part of life and all that that entails such as a house in which to live and money with which to buy food and other needed items. The 2nd house rules the general feeling of security in life because you have what you need and you are not afraid you will lose it, at any moment. As such, if Chiron is here, you ARE afraid that your material security could be lost, at a moments notice. You carry this vague fear with you, at all times, even if you are living in the lap of luxury.The Chiron wound is internal. It does not heal if life circumstances change. It may be mitigated, but not healed completely, as is the nature of the myth.

Chiron in the 3rd house–The 3rd house rules communication. One must be able to communicate, with ease, if one is to thrive in this world. The 3rd house is general communication in speaking and writing rather than an intellectual communication of deep,philosophical and spiritual issues as is the domain of the 9th house. People with Chiron in the 3rd in communication. They may be afraid to speak. They may have been demeaned when they tried to speak. They may have been in a situation where they were “shouting” their truth with no one to hear, to understand what they were saying. They may have been the “voiceless”. I have seen this manifestation of Chiron in the 3rd.

Chiron in the 4th house–the 4th house rules early childhood. As such, Chiron, here, would indicate a painful childhood. This is one of the harder Chiron placements, as our childhood shapes us as water is shaped by a container. We may carry deep pain, all or lives, from situations inflicted on us, as children. I think this would be the case, as the Chiron wound does not heal. However, this placement may have a unique ability to help abused and neglected children. This placement may be a foster parent or just someone to whom children can unburden themselves.

Chiron in the 5th house–the 5th house rules play, creativity, self expression of one’s basic identity, short romances, fun and one’s sense of humor. Chiron, here, may make a person afraid to risk self expression. Creativity may be hard, as one feels insecure to step out and be seen. This house rules the child who dances and sings with the joy of simply being, as children will do. This sign rules the person who will get in to the center of the room , with a lampshade on his head, in the middle of a party. With Chiron, here, one may be found in the corner. One may desire to shout his special song to the world, but shrinks back. As such, this person has a unique understanding that may help others who find themselves in the same position. This Chiron may be a music teacher, but not a performer. This placement may be an acting coach, but not an actor. This Chiron may watch on the sidelines, but encourage others to shine. That would embody the nature of the usage of the Chiron wound.

Chiron in the 6th house–The 6th house rules work of a practical service nature. It, also, rules health. Chiron in the 6th may be a person who desires to serve others, but never seems to find satisfaction. Perhaps, their choice of work is a continual source of pain.Perhaps, they work in a field which does not suit them, which drains their life energy, but they are stuck. Perhaps health issues plague them. One friend with Chiron in the 6th, had two children with a rare genetic disorder of which he and his wife were unaware. He and she were, both, called upon to donate organs to their child. This placement is one of the harder ones.

Chiron in the 7th house–the 7th house rules marriage and committed partnerships of a long term nature. The 7th house involves all things that one desires in marriage such as loyalty, devotion, fidelity and life partnership.As such, this Chiron may never have the pleasures of this kind of union. If this Chiron does get married, his partner may betray him or likewise break his heart and destroy his dreams. This Chiron may be called upon to help other couples as a marriage counselor or a pastor while he bears the wound with which he heals others.

Chiron in the 8th house–the 8th house rules all taboo subjects.If you cannot talk about it at a cocktail party, the 8th house rules it. This includes the deepest passions of the human, both emotional and sexual.The 8th house is the one must call forward when one is in therapy. It rules the id, the part of us which will control us, if we try to push it in to the attic. As such, Chiron in the 8th may not be able to face these parts of himself and may suffer physical and emotional illness, as a result. On the other hand, he may be plagued by passions running wild such that he cannot stop them. He may have addictions and obsessions which he cannot control, but may be called upon to help others as an addiction counselor or a therapist.

Chiron in the 9th–the 9th house rules higher thought. It is opposite the 3rd house which rules chatty communication. The 9th rules intellectual communication. It rules higher education, while the 3rd house rules elementary education. The 9th house rules spiritual bodies of thought. The 9th house asks the most yearning questions of the human such as “Why am I here?” When a person has a full 9th house, the person is a seeker after Life Truths. On the other hand, when Chiron is here, a person may never find these answers, although they may search incessantly. The 9th house Chiron may be a religion professor or a pastor who guides others to the very answers which elude him.

Chiron in the 10th–the 10th house rules career and society. It is opposite the 4th house which rules early childhood. One must leave childhood and the 4th house and learn to make one’s way in the 10th house arena. The 10th house rules one’s reputation.It rules one’s general acceptance or lack of it, in society. As such, Chiron, here, may make one feel cast out from others. Perhaps, one does not have the social status one so, fervently, desires.Perhaps, one was poor as a child and feels one can never fit in with a “higher” level of social peers. Perhaps, one makes a stupid mistake and loses one’s reputaion. Perhaps, one’s career never takes off even though one tries, mightily. This Chiron may help others succeed and realize their social dreams,as one stands in the baclground. Perhaps, one is a worker behind the scenes for a person who sits in the limelight, effortlessly, as one watches.

Chiron in the 11th–the 11th house rules groups, hopes and dreams and global giving, such as in charity. The 11th house is a forward thinking house ruled by Aquarius. A person with a full 11th house wants to help others who are far away such as by doing work in the Peace Corps or Doctors without Borders. The strongly 11th house person has a passion to make a difference to those who are far from his own sphere of life. It seems to be a deep seated passion, as in my friend Rod from Chile. Hopes and dreams are ruled by this house, too, as in the hopes of a child, before children learn that hope is often, fruitless. As such, a person with an 11th house Chiron may find that his dreams are out of reach and he must settle for mediocrity instead of his aspirations. Perhaps, he will mentor someone who does go to faraway places and perform wonderful deeds, as he sits behind, as a support structure.

Chiron in the 12th house—the 12th house is the hardest house placement, bar none. This will, always, be the case, no matter which planet.The 12th house is the door to the next dimension. The next dimension is that of psychic phenomena, creativity and mystical experience. It,also, rules drugs and addictions, as these take us out of the real world, albeit in a harmful way. As such, the person with a 12th house Chiron may find it hard to live on the earth. He may want to escape the earth’s hardships through addictions. He may fight addictions but never seem to overcome. He may be ultra sensitive in the Micheal Jackson vein. The earth may take its toll on him.People who have been through great trouble have great depth, not found in those who have not. As such, this Chiron may comfort those who the rest of the world has pushed to the sidelines such as the handicapped person or the prisoner.

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posted March 11, 2012 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron in the 6th: always something wrong with my health!

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posted March 11, 2012 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamy_AriesGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Chiron is very interesting.
Mine is in the 10th house and although I've experienced painful events related to career and i've always had hard time finding my place in society, I also have/had lots of success whihc are connected to this house, so its interesting. And Chiron in the 10th means for me that i have great healing abilities and so i try to use it in my everyday life.

The most painful house for me is where my N.Node sits...

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posted March 11, 2012 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Chiron in the 6th: always something wrong with my health!


Tell me Chiron's aspects again Teasel--house/sign and orb

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posted March 11, 2012 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Sag moon conjunct Chiron in the 4th house
My mother looked after us but was emotionally distant I think I was closer to the maid than my mother lol
I don't really think she loved me though we became closer when I was older just before her death.
She adored my daughter though used to call My Daughter her youngest child
Saturn also squares my Moon
My father was very loving and affectionate but was hardly home and drank heavily after my brothers death ( The eldest son )

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posted March 11, 2012 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dreamy_AriesGirl:
Chiron is very interesting.
Mine is in the 10th house and although I've experienced painful events related to career and i've always had hard time finding my place in society, I also have/had lots of success whihc are connected to this house, so its interesting. And Chiron in the 10th means for me that i have great healing abilities and so i try to use it in my everyday life.

The most painful house for me is where my N.Node sits...



Yes Dreamy
When I do charts, Chiron in the 10th seems to be the person does not feel they "fit" into society in some way. They may feel they are not successful enough for example. There does seem to be something with regard to fitting in the general society.

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why have my response to your thread been deleted off?? also another member Lioness got her's deleted off???

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Chiron in the 1st house– This placement seems to indicate childhood bullying, in many, many cases. Chiron in the 1st house would be a outer manifestation of Chiron. It would be akin to wearing Chiron on your sleeve, for all the world to see. The Chiron wound could be physical such as a scar or deformity.It could be emotional such as emotional illness. Whatever it is, it is visible to others. As such, this is one of the hardest Chiron placements.

As I recall myself and this other member totally disagreed with your synposis of chiron in first house

Chiron thread http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9786 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=286 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17165 http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11976

Chiron links http://www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html http://www.astrotherapy.eu/Chiron.htm http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html http://www.aquamoonlight.co.uk/chiron.html http://www.martinlass.com/chiron.htm http://www.zanestein.com/chiron_a.htm http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson6.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=4rnvfxrc4LwC&pg=PT1&dq=astrology+chiron&lr=lang_en&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_brr=0&ei=wMfUSoj-HI6MNdHKzYcO# v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=false
Barbara Hand Clowe http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=M5PgXbwYAGYC&pg=PA309&dq=astrology+chiron&hl=en&sa=X&ei=A-lYT4OIEuTX0QXm__3bAw&ved=0CDYQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=astrology%20chiron&f=false
Gloria Star, Chiron in signs

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posted March 11, 2012 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saggi, it might be glitching again. Ami can't delete anything here, and I don't see lalalinda doing that either.

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Chiron in the 7th, conjunct moon and vertex, sun in 7th as well

What I long for most in life, I think I will never have

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Originally posted by appleberry:
Chiron in the 7th, conjunct moon and vertex, sun in 7th as well

What I long for most in life, I think I will never have



What is it that you long for ?
My daughter had Chiron in the 7th too so I'm curious
You don't have to answer if you don't like to

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posted March 12, 2012 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And I forgot to add it's retro too

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i have chiron in the sixth and it mainly manifests in my problems in the workplace,my health is pretty good,probably because jupiter is also in sixth, but i am always made to feel like a failure at work,i try my best and work hard but its never been good enough. my chiron is quincunx venus exact and romance and relationships have always been a great source of pain to me,but on the positive i have learned a great deal and can give good advice about relationships (in true chiron fashion) haha

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Mine's in Gemini, in the 12th. I suffer from communication problems, such as in my speech and expressing myself in general. I'm very shy and timid when it comes to expressing myself through speech and communicating in general. It's like handicap and I hope to talk to a psychologist soon about this. I really hope this can be fixed. Also, for some reason I am very shy and self-conscious about my ideas and my intellect. At any rate, it seems like it's always in the area of self-expression and intellect where I get most insecure. Like very self-conscious it's painful sometimes.
On the plus side, I don't have problems with addiction, sex, or drugs. I hardly drink and I don't do drugs. I despise the idea of doing drugs to avoid facing reality. Perhaps that my pragmatic Taurus and Scorpionic nature to face the truth, speaking.
I can relate to the feeling of wanting to escape though, but I cope. Sometimes I don't want to see anybody but my two close family members and I hardly talk. I like to wear my shades when I'm outside so I don't want to deal with people looking and it gives me sense of security.
On days when I feel hopeless I try to stay home. Not to be cynical, but I don't like life or people. I am kind, but only because I have compassion. Instead of being scared of the end of the world, which I don't believe will be soon, I'm hopeful that that may be our last hope to end this dreadful thing called life. I'm not here to argue or anything, perhaps that may have just given you insight into what having a full load 12th house feels like.

Taurus/Scorpio/Cancer

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posted March 12, 2012 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by teasel:
Saggi, it might be glitching again. Ami can't delete anything here, and I don't see lalalinda doing that either.

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posted March 12, 2012 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by appleberry:
Chiron in the 7th, conjunct moon and vertex, sun in 7th as well

What I long for most in life, I think I will never have


Apple
Lets talk about this if you want.Have committed relationships been a really hard area for you? You want them badly but pain is always associated with them.


Chiron conj Moon--OUCH
Did your mom really hurt you?

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i have chiron in the sixth and it mainly manifests in my problems in the workplace,my health is pretty good,probably because jupiter is also in sixth, but i am always made to feel like a failure at work,i try my best and work hard but its never been good enough. my chiron is quincunx venus exact and romance and relationships have always been a great source of pain to me,but on the positive i have learned a great deal and can give good advice about relationships (in true chiron fashion) haha


You got a good sense of humor out of it. You just opened up something for me. I have Venus trine Chiron. Even though it is a trine, anything that touches a planet like Chiron or Saturn is still some sort of a restriction in a sense.

Doux helped me to see this with Saturn trine Venus. You would think the trine is always good but sometimes just the touching of Venus with something like Chiron or Saturn is hard. Venus and the Moon are yin planets. They receive. Maybe this is why it is hard. At any rate, the short answer to your post is that I got a good sense of humor from Chiron touching Venus too

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posted March 12, 2012 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Chiron is in the 1st house. It looks, like over on the list that it is worst Chiron placement.

Chiron square Saturn (Chiron is bad, as Saturn is)
Chiron conjunction ASC
Chiron conjunction Jupiter
Chiron trine Uranus
Chiron trine NN

Chiron is very important by Medical Astrology: it shows place where we are wounded.

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posted March 12, 2012 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by bonadea33:
My Chiron is in the 1st house. It looks, like over on the list that it is worst Chiron placement.

Chiron square Saturn (Chiron is bad, as Saturn is)
Chiron conjunction ASC
Chiron conjunction Jupiter
Chiron trine Uranus
Chiron trine NN


Bobbie Sweetie
Put in the orbs please.

Chiron is very important by Medical Astrology: it shows place where we are wounded.


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Were you bullied in your early life Bobbie? That seems to happen with Chiron in the 1st often.

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Chiron in the 9th–the 9th house rules higher thought. It is opposite the 3rd house which rules chatty communication. The 9th rules intellectual communication. It rules higher education, while the 3rd house rules elementary education. The 9th house rules spiritual bodies of thought. The 9th house asks the most yearning questions of the human such as “Why am I here?” When a person has a full 9th house, the person is a seeker after Life Truths. On the other hand, when Chiron is here, a person may never find these answers, although they may search incessantly. The 9th house Chiron may be a religion professor or a pastor who guides others to the very answers which elude him.

I hope not!

I do have a lot of pain connected to religion, though. In my seeking for truth, I left the Catholic church at a young age (refused to get confirmed), which did not please my huge family at all.

I converted to orthodox Christianity after college and married an orthodox Christian. I am no longer an orthodox Christian but my husband is. This is a very sore spot in my life.

How am I "healing" others through the 9th house? Maybe because I'm no longer judgmental of anyone's religion. I just let people be, and wish the best for them. I have a friend who insists that playing a certain "healing" cassette tape with gospel hymns will cure a flu every time.

And I'm just like, "Wow, that's nice."

Nothing else to say. For all I know, it actually works.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Were you bullied in your early life Bobbie? That seems to happen with Chiron in the 1st often.


Hi Ami,

What do you mean with early life? This life or Past life?

B.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Were you bullied in your early life Bobbie? That seems to happen with Chiron in the 1st often.


Hi Ami,

What do you mean with early life? This life or Past life?

B.

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This life Bobbie---early childhood

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posted March 12, 2012 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami,

Here are orbs:

Chiron square Saturn (2'33)
Chiron conjunction ASC (4'11)
Chiron conjunction Jupiter - (3'57)
Chiron trine Uranus (1'32)
Chiron trine NN (5'05)

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I will study them and be back to ask some questions later Bobbie dear.

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