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MertSerimer
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posted March 11, 2012 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hola,

Well in my chart, Saturn rules 11th house (which is second natural ruler of that house) and ALSO is in 11th house(11th house ruler in 11 means "wish fulfillment") and it is in Capricorn so exalted.

It gets zero bad aspects, My personal planets do not do major aspects to saturn but pluto sextiles it, neptune conjuncts it(reality and dreams come together) and north node conjuncts it widely(impeccable ability of blending to or masking with society).

Since its unaspected by personal planets(except mercury semi-sextile saturn), my saturn energy is unknown or unfelt. So what do you think of my saturn?

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Doreen
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posted March 11, 2012 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doreen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At what degree is your Pisces ascendant if you don't mind me asking

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MertSerimer
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posted March 11, 2012 10:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doreen:
At what degree is your Pisces ascendant if you don't mind me asking

7th degree

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Ami Anne
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posted March 11, 2012 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Hola,

Well in my chart, Saturn rules 11th house (which is second natural ruler of that house) and ALSO is in 11th house(11th house ruler in 11 means "wish fulfillment") and it is in Capricorn so exalted.

It gets zero bad aspects, My personal planets do not do major aspects to saturn but pluto sextiles it, neptune conjuncts it(reality and dreams come together) and north node conjuncts it widely(impeccable ability of blending to or masking with society).

Since its unaspected by personal planets(except mercury semi-sextile saturn), my saturn energy is unknown or unfelt. So what do you think of my saturn?



WOW I did not know you had an unaspected Saturn Mert! That is a super gift. That makes for a very special servant to others in the highest sense. My son has this and he is that way too.

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SaggiMC
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posted March 11, 2012 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Hola,

Well in my chart, Saturn rules 11th house (which is second natural ruler of that house) and ALSO is in 11th house(11th house ruler in 11 means "wish fulfillment") and it is in Capricorn so exalted.

It gets zero bad aspects, My personal planets do not do major aspects to saturn but pluto sextiles it, neptune conjuncts it(reality and dreams come together) and north node conjuncts it widely(impeccable ability of blending to or masking with society).

Since its unaspected by personal planets(except mercury semi-sextile saturn), my saturn energy is unknown or unfelt. So what do you think of my saturn?


is Saturn direct OR retrograde (going backwards)??

Basic astrology forum discussing Saturn in houses http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000660.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….

Houses: angular houses 1/7 4/10 the energies of planets placed here are obvious cos it's your 'shop window' visible for everyone to see. Next the succeedent houses 2/8 & 5/11 the energies in these houses are not in shop window the are in the shop, but stood behind the counter, ready to come out when needed. Lastly, cadent houses 6/12 & 3/9 these houses/planets are not in shop window or stood behind the counter, they are in the back storeroom and only come out when 'triggered' or an emergency and much harder to recognise and access...

The houses are like the backdrop of a stage, the setting if you like, the planets are like actors and the aspects are how the planets behave in that settings/stage....So remember you may find it harder to identify with planets and Saturn in this case in Cadent houses….

"Saturn’s" influence seems to be more obvious in the houses than in the signs can rule the life with an iron rod, although invisible, by undermining the sense of ¬self worth and making it difficult for the individual to permit any close emotional contacts.

Saturn's sign indicates what you find uncomfortable and must learn to manage.
Where and how you feel a lack of confidence -- the house position of Saturn defines where
you need to establish your skills, an issue you worry about and wish you could depend on !

Lovely anecdote about Saturn from member mahaira on astrologyweekly.com,

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There's an interesting thing I read somewhere, which I would never take as a rule as it oversimplifies matters - we can guess where someone's Saturn is placed, broadly speaking, by asking him/her "What do you want (or did want) but don't have?"

Takes 28 years to go around zodiac. Stays in each sign of approx 2.1/2 yrs
Keywords: Saturn = Structure, duty, limitation, restriction.

When Saturn and Uranus fall in the same sign or house we get caught in a cleft stick, wanting to make changes but fearing to let go of the old.

Basic astrology forum, retrogrades,Unaspected & Singletons http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/forumdisplay.cgi?action=topics&forum=Basic+Astrology&number=12&DaysPrune=
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If saturn IS retrograde your hopes and wishes may not be fulfilled

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SaggiMC
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posted March 11, 2012 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't view any unaspected as *special gift* how can it be when some part of your personality doesn't link into your psyche..

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Unaspected Saturn: Possibly, a lack of support from the father figure. Emphasis on work accomplishment or self-discipline may compensate for insecurity.

Summary

Unaspected planets can be hard to tame. Integrating the unaspected planet into our psyche may feel like trying to have a tall Westerner blend in with a crowd of Japanese people – it can’t help but stand out. Rather than trying to make it “act normal”, one solution may be to consciously find a challenging outlet for the energy of the unaspected planet – be it writing a book, learning a foreign language, forming a nonprofit organization, or practicing martial arts. That way, the rest of our horoscope could be benefited through the unaspected planet’s energy as well. The key thing is not to leave it unattended – which tends to make it behave strangely. http://hniizato.com/2011/10/interpreting-unaspected-planets-noel-tyls-definition-of-a-peregrine-planet/.html


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Saturn Retrograde
Upsets and delays could become a normal part of life for the 4 and a half months Saturn is Retrograde. Extra time-consuming, unfinished *business* can unexpectedly come up that takes you away from your normal routine, adding extra responsibilities, commitments, and time-eaters to your days. Expectations of forward progress may have to be temporarily revised. It's time to ease up and take a good look around you. Whatever house of your horoscope Saturn is currently transiting through is where you will feel this effect. This is not the time to make bold new strides and start experimental projects. Instead, use this time to re-evaluate and strengthen what you are already doing. This retrograde can teach you new methods to structure your inner psychological workings by exposing your limiting, unproductive defense mechanisms. This knowledge can ultimately help you translate yourself and your work to the world in a lucid, more easily comprehensible way. http://www.artcharts.com/learn_astrology/rx.html


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MertSerimer
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posted March 11, 2012 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you SaggiMC for a lot of information. It is direct.

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VenusDiSirius
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posted March 11, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusDiSirius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mert,I agree,unaspected Saturn is NOT a gift.

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Lioness
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posted March 11, 2012 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you first look at my chart, my chart has a well aspected Saturn.

Saturn sextile sun,moon,mercury
Saturn trine Uranus

So I am responsible, and I think before I take actions. I always do the right thing.
Saturn stabilizes you makes you consider the outcome of your actions prior to doing it...

NOW when you look deeper at my chart you will see
Saturn conjunct IC in H3
Saturn sq Asc/DSC
Saturn opps MC

Im not sure how to explain how these have played out.
Its more like not my personal energy, just things that happen to me along the road..
My karmic duty so to speak.

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laurenbabiiee7
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posted March 11, 2012 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for laurenbabiiee7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ur awesome for posting this thread by the way

i have the samme exact position of saturn like you do!!! we twins lol my saturn is unaspected and it also rules my 11th house!!! now you say its a good thing, but ive heard bad things about it especially in 11th house, saggimc has told me some info as well..i was told since 11th house rules friendships and saturn is in it it can cause problems with friends and wishing you had better friends but are never able to attain it you must always work hard for your wishes in this position, friends can cause problems but i mean if ur other planets r aspe ted well u culd very well attract friends and overrule the harsh saturn aspect, like me for instinse, i looooveeee being around ppl libra moon, aries rising, merc n mars sag and get along with ppl love parties yada yada but few close intimates yes i can keep friends for q long time but my friends r crazy lol i cant see wny of them getting along together so i have to hang out with them seperately, lots of aquantices tho, i always idealize a group of friends that i want, but hard to get what u always want. so yea just wanted to share that with you since we have the same placement and maybe you would like to share and can relate? maybe, maybe not? : )

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posted March 11, 2012 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for laurenbabiiee7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
other than that saturn unaspected ****** rocks!!!!!! u cwn e lazy at times and undisiplined but were free spirits and yea were just awesome

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posted March 11, 2012 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(Irrelevant, but) the sounds of the aurora on Saturn: http://fleur-morte.tumblr.com/post/18381348975

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MertSerimer
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posted March 11, 2012 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by laurenbabiiee7:
ur awesome for posting this thread by the way

i have the samme exact position of saturn like you do!!! we twins lol my saturn is unaspected and it also rules my 11th house!!! now you say its a good thing, but ive heard bad things about it especially in 11th house, saggimc has told me some info as well..i was told since 11th house rules friendships and saturn is in it it can cause problems with friends and wishing you had better friends but are never able to attain it you must always work hard for your wishes in this position, friends can cause problems but i mean if ur other planets r aspe ted well u culd very well attract friends and overrule the harsh saturn aspect, like me for instinse, i looooveeee being around ppl libra moon, aries rising, merc n mars sag and get along with ppl love parties yada yada but few close intimates yes i can keep friends for q long time but my friends r crazy lol i cant see wny of them getting along together so i have to hang out with them seperately, lots of aquantices tho, i always idealize a group of friends that i want, but hard to get what u always want. so yea just wanted to share that with you since we have the same placement and maybe you would like to share and can relate? maybe, maybe not? : )


Actually what saturn does in that house is what we have and need. Real FRIENDS are few and saturn makes it absolute in that house. It also delays but never forgets. Probably saturn 11th house people end up being famous in their profession environment or more. It rewards best when you do as saturn demands "discipline and hard work".. I read it somewhere if you work really hard, saturn rewards are at least same as jupiter's 11th thing. But it is valid for only your dreams works etc. Many famous people who became famous after 35 generally have this placement. The problem is it is unaspected so we cant WORK HARD. Friend thing is not problem in fact nice. But i have many social lucky aspects so not problem for me at all

Shortly it is a placement of "After mid life big successes."

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laurenbabiiee7
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posted March 12, 2012 12:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for laurenbabiiee7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ ooo i like that interpretation! i would love to be famous so what an awesome aspect lol a positive one too..lucky to have it

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posted March 12, 2012 01:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and it is in Capricorn so exalted...Mert

Your Saturn is Home in Capricorn, very strong, exalted would be in Libra.

Lucky You

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MertSerimer
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posted March 12, 2012 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MertSerimer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lalalinda:
Your Saturn is Home in Capricorn, very strong, exalted would be in Libra.

Lucky You


Yah sorry, i mean it to be strong.

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posted March 12, 2012 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

WOW I did not know you had an unaspected Saturn Mert! That is a super gift. That makes for a very special servant to others in the highest sense. My son has this and he is that way too.



he doesn't he has sextile to pluto and conjunction to netpune

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posted March 12, 2012 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by MertSerimer:
Hola,

Well in my chart, Saturn rules 11th house (which is second natural ruler of that house) and ALSO is in 11th house(11th house ruler in 11 means "wish fulfillment") and it is in Capricorn so exalted.

It gets zero bad aspects, My personal planets do not do major aspects to saturn but pluto sextiles it, neptune conjuncts it(reality and dreams come together) and north node conjuncts it widely(impeccable ability of blending to or masking with society).

Since its unaspected by personal planets(except mercury semi-sextile saturn), my saturn energy is unknown or unfelt. So what do you think of my saturn?


It's unknown and unfelt as you put it due to it being in 11th above the horizon!

"Ruler of the Eleventh House in the Eleventh House

Your friends are related to your participation in group causes. Your hopes and wishes are unusual or ahead of the times in some way.
You can create wide-scale social change through participating with groups of people dedicated to a common cause." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr11

I have neptune conj 10th (not MC) and do not 'feel it' either.

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