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appleberry
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posted March 12, 2012 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is that?

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SaggiMC
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posted March 12, 2012 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by appleberry:
What is that?

no idea, I've heard of day ruler or night ruler, but that's more a Traditoinal astrology thing..

shouldn't worry, if you want to do some research just go to basic forum

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appleberry
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posted March 12, 2012 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the context of it:

(regarding Horary)

"Mars well dignified in the 7th house suggests the woman is newly conceived. If a woman is not sure how long she has been pregnant judge by the closest separating aspect between the Moon, 5th-ruler and hour-ruler. Trine = 3 or 5 months; Sextile = 2 or six months; square = 4 months; opposition = 7 months, conjunction = I month.

The time of birth is often triggered by the transiting conjunction of the Sun or Mars with the 5th-ruler, Moon, asc or hour-ruler, or is sometimes shown by the querent's signiftcator changing signs.

Another method is to judge by how far the 5th-ruler is removed from the 5th cusp, allowing one month for each sign.
If you need to judge whether the birth will be by day or by night, go by the majority of significators; that is, whether they are in diurnal signs (showing a day birth) or nocturnal signs (night birth). "

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athenegoddess
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posted March 12, 2012 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't it asc ruler?

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appleberry
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posted March 12, 2012 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for appleberry     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guess not...


Here is something I found to explain a bit. It is from Ancient Astrology:

The Hidden Energies of Hours

The ancients viewed life in a very different perspective from that of most of us today. Their perceptions were much more tightly attuned to mysterious forces of nature that have only recently begun to be rediscovered by science, after several centuries of "rational" ignorance and misunderstanding...

Each day is now divided into 24 equal hours of 60 minutes each, as defined by the clock. However, in earlier times, time was not so rigid. For those dwelling in the days when time was measured by the sundial, things were more flexible. This is the time when astrology was first developed, as a way of understanding the natural rhythms.

In ancient times, before the invention of the telescope, there were only seven visible planets ("wandering stars") including the Sun and Moon. The planets were imbued with divine, occult power, and were widely worshipped as gods. The days themselves were named after the seven planets: seven days making up one quarter of the Moon's regular monthly cycle of approximately 28 days, corresponding to the four main phases of the Moon. This seven day lunar phase is now our week. Each day of the week thus has its traditional planetary ruler, and the planetary hours are calculated accordingly. Here is a table of the days and their traditional planetary rulers:
Day Planet
Sunday Sun
Monday Moon
Tuesday Mars
Wednesday Mercury
Thursday Jupiter
Friday Venus
Saturday Saturn

This table is in the order of the days of our week, starting with Sunday, but the hours of the day are ruled by planets in the Chaldean order: from Saturn inward to the Moon. This is the order of planetary speed from the slowest and most distant, Saturn, down to the fastest and nearest, the Moon, which is also displayed in the structure of the Tree of Life.

Days began at sunset, not midnight, and the period of daylight was divided into twelve equal parts, as was the period of the night. Thus hours, known as "unequal hours" at any times other than the Equinoxes, could be more or less than 60 minutes each, as judged by today's "atomic clock standard", though not by theirs (although, of course for more precise measurements as needed, say, in cooking, they did have instruments like the water clock and the hourglass). The astrological day follows the same flexible system.

Hours also vary with the location for which they are calculated. According to Anthony Louis:

"The first hour of the day, starting at sunrise, is ruled by the day ruler. For example, the first "hour" after sunrise on Monday is ruled by the Moon, on Tuesday by Mars, on Wednesday by Mercury, on Thursday by Jupiter, on Friday by Venus, on Saturday by Saturn, and on Sunday by the Sun. The remaining hours are assigned rulers in Chaldean order (Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon) so that the 1st, 8th, 15th, and 22nd hours are ruled by the same planet.

"Traditionally, for a horary chart to be considered radical, the planetary hour ruler had to be compatible with the horary Ascendant ruler. Either the hour ruler and Ascendant ruler had to be the same planet, or the two rulers had to be of the same nature or triplicity. In electional astrology, it is considered fortunate to act during the planetary hour whose ruler makes a good aspect to the Moon, especially if the hour ruler is also the day ruler and the planet ruling the hour also rules the matter of the election."

This is the hidden reason for the order and so the names of the days of the week. In ancient Sumeria, the planets were conceived in the Chaldean order, with Saturn as the first. The subsequent days were designated by the planetary hour that rose at sunrise. If Saturn ruled the first hour, it also ruled the 8th, 15th and 22nd. As Jupiter would then rule the 23rd, and Mars the 24th hour; the first hour of the following day would then be ruled by the Sun, making Sunday, and so on. The days thus came to be known by the ruler of the first hour, resulting in our present order of the days of the week. Saturn begins the week in this schema, but at some early stage and probably for religious reasons, the day of the glorious Sun was given prominence, being made the first day.

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teasel
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posted March 12, 2012 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I was born in the hour of Venus. I found that out from software that's no longer available.

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posted March 13, 2012 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i don't get it.. i was born on a monday just before sunset 5pm..

that is the 12th hour of monday?

or the 24th hour of sunday?

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