posted March 13, 2012 10:39 AM            

"Generally, from what I've learned through studying Astrology is that planets Retrograde are debilitated. Not everyone thinks that, mind you.. just the general consensus I've come across. So.. you have a planet that's Retro within a house, that house, the things it rules and so forth, you're going to suffer setbacks and have a harder time in that area of your life because of it, right? And then also in the house that planet rules? Like, to use myself as an example..
The ruler of my 7th is Mars.. my Mars is Retro, in the 8th. So the RULER of my 7th house is Retro.. which means I'll struggle with 7th house matters AS WELL as 8th house ones?

Have I made sense at all?!? Haha.
The main question I'm asking is; Do retrograde planets affect the houses as well? They'd kinda have to, right? Sorry if it's a dumb question.. it's just been drivin' me crazy tryin' to piece it all together!!!!!!"

But I think it's more suited for here.

posted March 13, 2012 02:22 PM            

I don't know much about retrograde planets but from what I've read, Olivia is right, the retrograde planet affects the house it's in and the house it rules.

I don't think retrograde planets are necessarily bad, it's just that their energy is more subjective and turned inwards, they don't operate as "freely" as planets in direct motion, and therefore, may need more time and effort to function well.

posted March 13, 2012 02:24 PM            

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Originally posted by s4nd:

btw does having aries descendant translate abit to having aries venus?

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posted March 13, 2012 06:21 PM              

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Originally posted by Oliviaaa:
I had originally posted this question in the 'Brown Owl School' forum;

"Generally, from what I've learned through studying Astrology is that planets Retrograde are debilitated. Not everyone thinks that, mind you.. just the general consensus I've come across. So.. you have a planet that's Retro within a house, that house, the things it rules and so forth, you're going to suffer setbacks and have a harder time in that area of your life because of it, right? And then also in the house that planet rules? Like, to use myself as an example..
The ruler of my 7th is Mars.. my Mars is Retro, in the 8th. So the RULER of my 7th house is Retro.. which means I'll struggle with 7th house matters AS WELL as 8th house ones?

Have I made sense at all?!? Haha.
The main question I'm asking is; Do retrograde planets affect the houses as well? They'd kinda have to, right? Sorry if it's a dumb question.. it's just been drivin' me crazy tryin' to piece it all together!!!!!!"

But I think it's more suited for here.

Those with any retrogrades in the chart... have you noticed more obstacles in the areas of life that the retrograde planet rules or is placed in?
And those with any input at all.. please share!

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The houses are like the backdrop of a stage, the setting if you like, the planets are like actors and the aspects are how the planets behave in that settings/stage....So remember you may find it harder to identify with planets and Saturn in this case in Cadent houses….

Yes if a house ruler is retro it can delay. My ruler of 11th hopes and wishes is def true for me...

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Ruler of the Seventh House in the Eighth House

Other people will support your goals either financially or by lending moral support. You can counsel other people regarding their finances.
Your attitude towards marriage may undergo a change and a partner can represent a total change of lifestyle for you.
You may marry based on an overwhelming sexual attraction to someone. You could actually form a deep intimate bond with someone who feels like a soulmate. You may have to resist the tendency to become obsessed with a particular relationship and allow yourself to move on when the time comes. http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr7

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use the above site to research all your house cusp rulers

most important retros are personal planets, as it's very common for 'outers' to be retro.
I also have retro mercury, but it went direct age 19. Retro venus may never go direct, or mercury & venus could even 'go retrograde'

mercury rules my 5th & 8th but have not felt any major obstacles in these areas though.

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posted March 27, 2012 01:36 AM            

s4nd--"they usually end with that don't they like "your chart ruler is pluto, the ruler is in 1st and it is retrograde."!!! ..and then??? "
Exactly! A lot of reports I've got have included that. Well.. it obviously has significance if it's included-- just wish they'd elaborate on WHAT the significance is!!

"also if you have a bad aspect to a retro planet shouldn't that bad aspect be lessened due to the planet not being able to express itself, instead of doubling the negatives?"
Huh.. I would've figured that it would actually maybe make it worse? Since the retro planet is debilitated since it IS retro.. not only can't it express itself fully, it also brings a whole bunch of other bad stuff with it, I think? One bad aspect my Mars makes is an opposition to my Moon.. and, trust me! I've gotten the full gamut with that aspect and more!

"major obstacles to me have always been saturn and uranus transits. worse when they combine."
Do you mean because of your chart, where they are placed in particular, or just in general? Anyway, I'm going through transiting Saturn conjuncting my stellium at the moment so I really appreciate you including this...

posted March 27, 2012 01:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Very interesting questions, guys.

I don't know much about retrograde planets but from what I've read, Olivia is right, the retrograde planet affects the house it's in and the house it rules.

I don't think retrograde planets are necessarily bad, it's just that their energy is more subjective and turned inwards, they don't operate as "freely" as planets in direct motion, and therefore, may need more time and effort to function well.

But the matters of the house ruled by a retrograde planet, and the house it's in, will probably be a bit difficult indeed, for instance it is often said that if the ruler of the ASC is retrograde, one may experience self-worth issues, be a late bloomer, and generally have a hard time finding who one is (identity problems).

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posted March 27, 2012 01:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
NEVER thought of the Houses in terms of Retro planets! Interesting Oliviaa.

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posted March 27, 2012 03:53 AM            

So that's something to check out.
I have a friend who was born w.Venus Rx & when it turned direct he stopped playing around w.relationships, and settled down a bit, setting up house with his love interest at the time. So things like that can happen.

posted March 27, 2012 02:16 PM            

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Originally posted by Lonake:
Oliviaaa, has Mars turned direct in your progressed chart? Because often they will, especially the personal planets, but not always. That time is said to signify when you can gain more momentum with it.
I have Rx Mars but it won't turn direct until 2062 (I'll be long dead by then lol).

So that's something to check out.
I have a friend who was born w.Venus Rx & when it turned direct he stopped playing around w.relationships, and settled down a bit, setting up house with his love interest at the time. So things like that can happen.

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Hi Lonake.
My Mars doesn't go direct until 2062, as well! So apparently we're born around the same time, I'm guessing... ?
By the way, what house is your Mars in and the one it rules? Have you noticed anything especially difficult about them or suffered some setbacks in those areas?

posted March 27, 2012 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
Ah yes I was thinking of the opposite since it can't express itself. Like Uranus unaspected is more stable than an aspected one.

Yes based on what it does in my chart. U hav a Scorpio stellium too then. Saturn is on my asc now. I try to do my Saturn but sometimes I burnout from the presha.

Wth dude y am I creepy now lol! Yes it was coz of the aries dsc! Oh I'm Taurus Aries dominant btw. But tops is still Scorpio..

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I didn't know that an unaspected planet is more stable than an aspected one! Interesting.

"U hav a Scorpio stellium too then."
No sir, I'm a late Libra.. almost a Scorpio though.. one day off. My Sun, Mercury, Venus & ASC range in degrees from 26-29 Libra. And I'm gettin' hit HARD by Saturn right now. It is indeed a lot of pressure.. to say the least!

Haha, ahhh.. ok. I was tired and not paying attention too well.. but, obviously it gave it away that my DSC was in Aries by saying Mars ruled my 7th in the OP. Oops. I was tired, I say... So ok, no... I take it back. You ain't creepy.

posted March 27, 2012 03:13 PM            

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Originally posted by sand:
how do you know which houses are retro btw? i just know 1,2 and 3 for me coz a planet is there but if something falls in that house like an asteroid, wouldn't that mean that house is retro too?

ooh how'd u look up the mars too? u just kept adding a year until u saw it go direct?

hehe but isn't that even more scorpio? kidding! what do i seem like to you. i am interested..

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First thing is see what house the retro planet falls in, yeah. Then the house that planet rules I figured would have to get impacted it by it, also. So, My Mars is in the 8th.. but I have an Aries DSC.. so, Mars rules that house.. you see? Just go by it like that. And I don't know.. hmm... I think it'd depend on what Asteroid it was, honestly. Which ones specifically did you have in mind?

Yeah, you could do it like that. That's what I did at first but it was taking FOREVER.. I just kept adding years and more years and was getting depressed. Wow, a lot of years, huh.
But anyway, I eventually just googled "Mars retrograde dates" to find the date Mars went retro (around the time I was born) and when it came out of it. This is the site I used; http://www.astrologie.ws/marsret.htm
So, I was born in October of 90 and Mars didn't come out of being retro until January of 91. Which put my Mars going direct in 2062...... Don't like.

posted March 27, 2012 04:09 PM            

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ic ic yeah i get it. mars retro rules my 6th and my retros rule alot more..

i guess we shud just move to the beat of our own drum..

here are mine lol! 1 for each retro..

i can't remember any as they didn't do much. just noticed stuff in my libra house would go retro too.. planets in my 6th, 7th, 8th are direct. that's what i actually thot u meant..

1984 - April 5 (28Sc21) - ( May 11 at 20Sc50) - June 19 (11Sc42)

i will check when that is..

oh ur good lol! my taurus sun and venus are in h7. no libra. leo moon.

neptune and jupiter in h3. i can't fool you haha!

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Your Mars is retro!? Why didn't you tell me sooner! Are you sayin' it has already went direct for you? So, you say it rules the 6th.. what house is it in? Have you had problems with those houses? But, wow.. so you have a lot of retros, huh?! If you have THAT many it'd probably be hard to distinguish between what's what.
Ok, I think I'm askin' too many questions on here. How about, if you wanna, you post your chart in PR and I can just ask you all the questions I wanna?

And hey, I got Neptune in the 3rd too.. along with Uranus and Saturn.. all in Capricorn. And with you having Jupiter there I definitely see how that could make you more open in terms of communication!

posted March 30, 2012 02:07 AM            

As I said in one of the above posts, I have Saturn in the third too.. grew up an only child but THINK I have some half siblings (long story). My schooling was interrupted.

Ruling the 10th, hmm.. yeah, I see how Mars ruling that house could have others (the public) perceive you to be agressive, or perhaps project in upon you? React that way towards you. And with it tying in with the third.. people SHOULD listen when you speak!

posted March 30, 2012 02:10 AM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Hi Olivia!

Sorry no astrology input because I have no expertise

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posted March 30, 2012 03:49 AM            

Ohhh.. yes. Or, when I'm online I'll have probably 16 pages open. No joke. And when I'm watching TV, switch back and forth between watching 3 different channels. Multi-tasker is an understatement.
And in terms of arguing... I have my moments. I have to be really mad to be sharp tounged, though.. and just be able to go at the person.. get some good, witty jabs in. I think it being retro makes me watch my mouth more! So, like I said.. gotta be real fired up. And I do the same thing! That's my problem with driving and the radio.. I'm listenin' to a song, goes off, another one comes on.. ahh, no. Don't like this. Gotta change it NOW. Even if I'm in the middle of a turn.