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Dreaming111
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posted March 14, 2012 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreaming111     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi,
I was curious to know what kind of aspects, planets in signs etc should one look for to identify if someone is more likely to cheat, have an affair etc whether it's mentally or emotionally.

Thanks

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Moonfish
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posted March 14, 2012 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably harsh aspects to Neptune and Uranus. They say people with Venus square/opposition Saturn can be insecure when it comes to serious relationships.

I personally have Venus sq Uranus and although I've only been in 1 relationship and never cheated I prefer to be single :]

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posted March 14, 2012 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Capriquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moon-Venus hard aspects: never fully happy when getting needs met.

Moon-Uranus hard aspects (sudden breaks from emotional attachments)

Mars-Uranus hard aspects (impulsive actions)


I have two of the three and cheated once on annoying demanding boyfriend who expected me to be his mom, housemaid, and sex slave while doing jack sh!t for me. Then I acted like a jerk until he kicked me out. When I cheerily left, he was shocked lol. I tried breaking it off before the cheating...he wouldn't hear of it. Yay for Neptunian denial! To this day, he still tries to worm his way back into my life.

Uranus won't act out unless a change for the better is necessary.

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posted March 14, 2012 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Moonfish:
Probably harsh aspects to Neptune and Uranus. They say people with Venus square/opposition Saturn can be insecure when it comes to serious relationships.

I personally have Venus sq Uranus and although I've only been in 1 relationship and never cheated I prefer to be single :]


Single is good I am single too lol

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posted March 14, 2012 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Capriquarius:
Moon-Venus hard aspects: never fully happy when getting needs met.

Moon-Uranus hard aspects (sudden breaks from emotional attachments)

Mars-Uranus hard aspects (impulsive actions)


I have two of the three and cheated once on annoying demanding boyfriend who expected me to be his mom,
housemaid, and sex slave while doing jack sh!t for me. Then I acted like a jerk until he kicked me out. When I cheerily left, he was shocked lol

Uranus won't act out unless a change for the better is
necessary.


So true my Uranus had enough the last time

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posted March 14, 2012 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moonfish     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ariesdragon:
Single is good I am single too lol

then we can be single together :] lol

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posted March 14, 2012 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Moonfish:
then we can be single together :] lol

Sounds good

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mintgirl123
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posted March 15, 2012 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If someone has alot of mutable then there's a bigger possibility of them cheating.

Usually it's gem moon, venus and mars, pisces moon and mars, aries venus.

Sun square/opposition uranus/neptune
Saturn might cause some people to have low self esteem and hence do it for ego boosts.
Moon/venus - square
venus square mars
moon/venus square/oppostion uranus


Though it's really about one's own morals and integrity cos my dad has sun and moon square uranus, venus opposition mars, mercury conjunct neptune by 1 degree, aqua rising and he isn't a liar or a cheater. But yeah if you see the above be alittle wary.

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posted March 15, 2012 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uranus in hard aspect to moon, venus or mars(they need variety and excitement and their interest often doesnt last). Neptune in hard aspect to venus or mars(overly romantic and quite wishy washy in affections, love and deciet/illusion become combined, Easily led!)
Dominent gemini or sag influence, need variety and constant stimulation, they get bored with same ol' same ol' and often lack any true loyalty. I do think em moon or asc is worse than gem sun. I know faithful gem suns, but in the moon it is shallow and very fickle and in asc it puts sag on desc, not good, especially if neptune or uranus is prominent.
Good capricorn, scorpio, taurus placements will offset these tendecies somewhat I believe though.

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posted March 15, 2012 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
of course this isn't the be all end all. i have moon square uranus and in mutable signs (sagittarius and pisces) but i've never cheated. my venus and ascendant are in fixed signs. i need freedom and i am prone to suddenly ending/changing a relationship but i do not cheat. it's happened to me too many times for me to do that to someone else. and i am loyal to my lover. until i leave them.

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posted March 15, 2012 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have uranus in 7th tightly square my moon and I have never cheated, BUT if the relationship isnt satisfying me I put on my "runnin shoes" Very easily. I do not cheat, but I do abandon. Its all up to the soul/karma/evolution of the individual. I see cheating as nasty and beneath me, but leaving oh no im gone baby!

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posted March 15, 2012 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Inthemisosoup, you sound like me, I am very loyal while it lasts, but hey if im not getting what i need then im leavin' baby. And my uranus is conj desc in 7th with square to my moon, often this is seen as a sign of a cheat and I have Never cheated, I simply walk away. Uranus to the moon or venus lets you know that "they're are other fish in the sea". hehe.

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ail221
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posted March 15, 2012 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Moon and Venus in Gemini with Venus opposition Uranus. I really do need mental stimulation to stay interested in someone. I am not a cheater in fact I am very loyal but the passion behind the relationship may not be there and I'd rather cut losses rather than have us bother suffer in a bad relationship.

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posted March 15, 2012 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scrappydog:
Uranus in hard aspect to moon, venus or mars(they need variety and excitement and their interest often doesnt last). Neptune in hard aspect to venus or mars(overly romantic and quite wishy washy in affections, love and deciet/illusion become combined, Easily led!)
Dominent gemini or sag influence, need variety and constant stimulation, they get bored with same ol' same ol' and often lack any true loyalty. I do think em moon or asc is worse than gem sun. I know faithful gem suns, but in the moon it is shallow and very fickle and in asc it puts sag on desc, not good, especially if neptune or uranus is prominent.
Good capricorn, scorpio, taurus placements will offset these tendecies somewhat I believe though.

I find dominant pisces more dangerous than sag. Sag likes freedom, but they're also more straight forward and if you let the cage open and not smother them, they're easy as helll to handle.

I've dated 3 sag venuses and a sag moon too.

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posted March 15, 2012 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
High sex drive (could cheat because nothing is ever enough): Mars/Jupiter aspects... Mars/Sun aspects... Mars in any of the fire signs.

Libertine morals (could easily have an FWB relationship or an open relationship): Jupiter/Uranus aspects.. Mercury/Uranus aspects... Mercury or Jupiter in Aquarius.

Fear of openly hurting your SO, even though you met someone else: Sun/Moon/Venus or Mars in either Pisces or Cancer.

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posted March 15, 2012 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Betty Boop:

Fear of openly hurting your SO, even though you met someone else: Sun/Moon/Venus or Mars in either Pisces or Cancer.


i'm not sure i understand what you're saying here. that people with these placements might always be in fear of hurting their SOs? by just innocently meeting someone they find attractive/relationship material? or by cheating? i wonder because i have both moon and mars in pisces and i'd like to comment but I don't want to misinterpret what you're trying to say.

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posted March 15, 2012 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes your probably right about that mintgirl, I forgot and left out dominant pisces, they're so shifty and always discontented with what they have even if its a good thing. I can never really trust people with too much fish, too slippery to ever be pinned down. With all my intense and up front plutonian/uranian energy I usually have an instinctive waryness of these people. At least the sag will usually be up front and Tell you something concret.

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posted March 15, 2012 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@inthemisosoup

I think what they are trying to say is that they have a tendency to carry on two relationships because they can't handle the confrontation it would take to end one.

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inthemisosoup
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posted March 15, 2012 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for inthemisosoup     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As someone with three planets in Pisces I can say that yes I dislike and avoid conflict, but I also would never want to hurt someone I love or have loved. If I had met someone else the chances is I would leave my SO before cheating, because clearly to be that interested in someone else I was unhappy to begin with. And yes, this has happened to me before. And I never crossed that line. I didn't tell my ex I had met someone else I liked. I explained to him all the other reasons I was unhappy, which is like I said, the reason I am looking else where anyway. But I never have even kissed someone else while in a committed relationship. I have moon/mars/jupiter in Pisces in the first house. My Sun is in Sagittarius, too. I don't like hurting people like that. It hurts to break away from relationships but it isn't right to play with people's feelings. I'm not saying I will never cheat, obviously I cannot speak for my future, but so far the thought has not become a reality (of course I've had these thoughts, who hasn't?). I understand why people do it, i just cannot fathom taking a step like that when to me it is so much easier to confront the real issues --which is usually the unhappiness you have with the relationship you are already in. And you will not have as much guilt afterwards, which can taint any other relationship you pursue.

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posted March 16, 2012 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dreaming111:
Hi,
I was curious to know what kind of aspects, planets in signs etc should one look for to identify if someone is more likely to cheat, have an affair etc whether it's mentally or emotionally.

Thanks



first thing I would look for it what is Neptune doing natally and by transit.

Neptune to mercury (hard aspect) could make someone a good liar.
Neptune to Mars (hard aspect) could suggest questionable relationships.

venus hard aspects mars- highly sexed

also there are three signs, scorpio, aries, taurus that are 'highly sexed' but Aries wants quantity, saggi wants freedom and independence and can be 'thrill of the chase me merchant, or catch me if you can' aspects..


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posted March 16, 2012 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
I have uranus in 7th tightly square my moon and I have never cheated, BUT if the relationship isnt satisfying me I put on my "runnin shoes" Very easily. I do not cheat, but I do abandon. Its all up to the soul/karma/evolution of the individual. I see cheating as nasty and beneath me, but leaving oh no im gone baby!

right on sister, i have moon/uranus square sun AND moon, and if I get to a point that a relationship is making me ill with too much stress, I walk and won't hang around.
What uranus really wants is bit of excitment every now and again or to do something unusual to feed the emotional nature.

It can suggest relationships start and end suddenly to..

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posted March 16, 2012 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ail221:
I have a Moon and Venus in Gemini with Venus opposition Uranus. I really do need mental stimulation to stay interested in someone. I am not a cheater in fact I am very loyal but the passion behind the relationship may not be there and I'd rather cut losses rather than have us bother suffer in a bad relationship.

mutable signs moon are capable of loving two people at the same time. Gemini is THE most flirtatious sign going. So both yours in air needs communication, but lets not forget the houses involved and 'other aspects' to these two can either help out or hinder the experiences...

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posted March 16, 2012 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mintgirl123:
I find dominant pisces more dangerous than sag. Sag likes freedom, but they're also more straight forward and if you let the cage open and not smother them, they're easy as helll to handle.

I've dated 3 sag venuses and a sag moon too.


OMG the ONLY way a pisces is going to be dominant is if it receives a hard aspect from Pluto or saturn maybe...


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posted March 16, 2012 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by scrappydog:
Yes your probably right about that mintgirl, I forgot and left out dominant pisces, they're so shifty and always discontented with what they have even if its a good thing. I can never really trust people with too much fish, too slippery to ever be pinned down. With all my intense and up front plutonian/uranian energy I usually have an instinctive waryness of these people. At least the sag will usually be up front and Tell you something concret.

the ONLY sign that is shifty, plays mind games and secrets and is 50% more likely to have extra martial is Scorpio !!

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the two least affairs type signs would be cancer and cappi, as both of these are money oreitated and wouldn't leave family or wantto jeopardise their possessions for for bit of extra marital. If they do I'm sure they would make it VERY clear they would never leave their homes/families.

The man stands to lose 'everything' they ever owned, built up and enjoyed over goodness knows how many years if they plat around. Especially if children are involved, the wife usually gets to keep the house, possessions, at least til children leave higher education (in UK)

due the this current mercury retro, I being creates some more threads in Basic forum for laerning astrology. Also needs to look at Vertex, chiron and Juno and Nodes of course.

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