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SaggiMC
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posted March 20, 2012 07:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hskahn:
@ sagMC

Did you know your 29' is conjunct the biggie Regulus


yes, i know


do you want to post your data, TOB place of birth etc and I will post your chart in PR forum to contineu the discussions??

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hskahn
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posted March 20, 2012 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hskahn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaggiMC
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posted March 20, 2012 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by hskahn:
i'm having trouble posting--if i give you my name and birth info could you do it for me. i go thru the directions w/out luck sorry. incidentally,. i'm a "she" not a "he."
cancer is on ny 2nd and 3rd house. i have a scorp-taurus interception 6th/12th.

does the sun/uranus sextile do the same thing as the square. sometimes i feel to thank my lucky stars that i can drop a switch like a hot potato when i realize it's hopeless. there always seems to be an opportunity (sextile) to go to...like an out-stretched hand, if i will take it.


Of course this cannot happen with Equal house system (which most on here seem to follow)
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Ah! haven't used this system since i first started in 1970. okay so i'll try that and see how my chart looks to me. i've always used placidus houses.

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SaggiMC
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posted March 20, 2012 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
when posting do you see above the post profile - edit- quote. If you click on quote, that shows you are responding to the member and will put what they have said in quote...

or you could do this manually by

quote:
then copy/paste info and end with

Look forward to seeing your chart in PR forum

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posted March 20, 2012 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hskahn:
@dysfunctionalmystic:======================================================

chiron is 18 scorp in my 6th. square a troubled ic/mc.

1948 Chiron Crossing Saturn's Orbit Moving Outward
June 13, 1948

so chiron in the 6th--how does this relate to family abandonment issues except that i need healing from it. any suggestions for this?


is it within 5' of 7th house cusp by any chance??

chiron here is learning to be of service to others and look after your health at the same time..

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Chiron in Scorpio or the Eighth House: The path of Chiron in Scorpio is somewhat akin to Dante's Inferno. The path to growth and life may come through repeated experiences with the great mysteries of life, death, birth and transformation. These are the powerful mystics whose inner visions dominate their life-path. They may have empathic and psychic abilities which are sharpened through experiences of profound insight. They may suffer deaths and losses when Chiron is adversely aspected, but each loss will be followed by benefits or insights that boost them to new levels of understanding. www.aquarianage.org/west/planets/ch-nat01.html

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chiron in the 6th house: You can always help (or teach) co-workers do the job better than you can do it. Perhaps you are a whiz at helping everyone else get healthy (the 6th house rules health) while you still smoke and eat junk food. Learn to take care of yourself every now and then. Sometimes it works out in the opposite fashion. Someone with a 6th house Chiron might demand that everyone else serve them, and they are usually never satisfied. Of course, obviously, this causes problems too. And oh yes, let us not forget the tendency toward eating disorders. This can also manifest as strange likes and dislikes in the food department.
Chiron in Scorpio: The issue here is power. Those with Chiron in Scorpio may fear their own power and try to suppress it. Conversely, they may feel powerless and try to cover this up by acting strong (even to the point of being a bully). Sex is only one way this may work out, and yes, having compulsive sex is one possibility. Another is an avoidance of sex because it's too "dangerous" (they may try to dominate me). This would be a perfect placement for a sex therapist who can help everyone else with their sexual problems but cannot help themselves. Inheritance matters may also be a sore point. Problems and upsets would tend to come with it.
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/chiron21.5.html


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CHIRON IN THE 6TH HOUSE – creates a connection with medicine and healing. This connection can begin with you being hypochondriacal >>> evolve into an uncompromising effort to maintain good health >>> a search for the secret of good health. As you let go of the tight control of your health, you become sensitive to your body and to your electrical system. You know intuitively what is going on within your body and what it needs. Your work experiences and your search for a meaningful goal in life can be your Healer, as you learn the answer to “what am I?” Holistic health is also your Healer. “CHIRON in the 6th house symbolizes the working out of transformation energy in form as a karmic issue.” If your CHIRON is retrograde, you can activate past life healing skills for use in this incarnation. You are meant to serve others.
REMEMBER: We develop our personality through Houses 1 to 6; our Soul from Houses 6 to 12. You can sense the growing intensity as we move through the houses. Each of your incarnations consists of movement through all 12 of the Houses with the Soul goal of developing evermore spiritual maturity.

CHIRON IN SCORPIO – “the transformative and evolutionary energy of Pluto [ruler of Scorpio] becomes the personal quest.” Plutonian power is a force to be reckoned with. You may feel that others cannot imagine how you feel inside, while you have soul memories of a time when this powerful energy was integrated into the society, such as during the Age of Taurus. This feeling of others’ lack of understanding can cause the struggle between Saturn’s structured existence and Uranus’ highly intuitive, changeable one to be volcanic for you. You will be either extraordinary in your personal evolution or you have not yet found a suitable avenue to express the growing power you feel within. On the personality level, you may try to express this Plutonian energy by seeking power and pleasure at the expense of others.
Those with CHIRON in Scorpio “face a death crisis or a significant choice to live relating to the issues of the house containing CHIRON.” CHIRON in Scorpio encourages an interest in metaphysics. Yoga can be beneficial.
It is important to note whether or not you are repressed. Do you recognize your own power? “Is the issue ruled by the house position of CHIRON empowered?” Do you understand the value system of that house’s affairs? Are you aware of making progress in your spiritual evolution in regards to this house? http://www.pathwaytoascension.com/astrology/lesson6.html



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hskahn
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posted March 20, 2012 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hskahn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
when posting do you see above the post profile - edit- quote. If you click on quote, that shows you are responding to the member and will put what they have said in quote...

or you could do this manually by Look forward to seeing your chart in PR forum


okay thanks for the head's up and i will get to trying again to post my chart

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posted March 21, 2012 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hskahn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
when posting do you see above the post profile - edit- quote. If you click on quote, that shows you are responding to the member and will put what they have said in quote...

or you could do this manually by Look forward to seeing your chart in PR forum

===============================i can't follow the post your chart instructions!!!! it won't work on my mac. i'll try again. but =house changes my chart a lot--puts my 4th house into my 3rd and moves my moon from the 11th to the 10th. so it is interesting.


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posted March 22, 2012 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
have you opened a free account with photobucket? then open a free account with astro.com and with in astro. right mouse click and save image to hard drive.

then upload to photobucket, when in photobucket click on IMG which copies the chart to clipboard, then paste in here..

How to post your chart… http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubbmisc.c gi?action=getannounce&ForumNumber=11&Start=2455736.99&End=2459389&Session=

any further probs just say

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posted March 22, 2012 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hskahn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
macs don't have the kind of mouse that pc's have. in fact i don't use a mouse at all. just got in from work, too tired right now but i will try again.

chiron wouldn't be near a house cusp equal house system but smack dab mid 6th

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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
have you opened a free account with photobucket? then open a free account with astro.com and with in astro. right mouse click and save image to hard drive.

then upload to photobucket, when in photobucket click on IMG which copies the chart to clipboard, then paste in here..

How to post your chart… http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubbmisc.c gi?action=getannounce&ForumNumber=11&Start=2455736.99&End=2459389&Session=

any further probs just say


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hskahn
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posted March 23, 2012 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hskahn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
have you opened a free account with photobucket? then open a free account with astro.com and with in astro. right mouse click and save image to hard drive.

then upload to photobucket, when in photobucket click on IMG which copies the chart to clipboard, then paste in here..

How to post your chart… http://www.linda-goodman.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ubbmisc.c gi?action=getannounce&ForumNumber=11&Start=2455736.99&End=2459389&Session=

any further probs just say


okay, i think i did it. let me know if you can find it

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posted March 23, 2012 12:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hskahn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dysfunctionalmystic:
You need to show your whole chart. It's normally aspects to personal planets that are the culprits in abandonment issues.

hi--i posted my chart. it is equal house. i've always used placidus houses so it's an interesting change for me

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posted March 23, 2012 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hskahn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I see the 29th degree as the Frozen degree. One feels one cannot go forward.One feels one foot is in the past and one in the future and immobolized by the present ime


i've have felt frozen in the past. i have never felt the presence of a future. it is only in the past few years that i feel i have a present.

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posted March 23, 2012 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hskahn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaggiMC
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posted March 16, 2012 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by hskahn:
have sun and uranus (ruler of my mc) in 29 (leo and gemini respectively). the sun is conj sat in the 4th. pluto conj IC from the 3rd--it was as if my father were dead and it actually wld have been easier if he had been. my mother's moon in cap so saturn about her too. sat planet of oriental appearance--again about the mother?


I have responded to a similar thread and question. I would have expected Neptune to be in 4th, but pluto ain't no joke either..=============================

so you were right neptune is cusp 4th-5th so operates both houses. interesting how the equal house fits too. the placidus and equal house chats seem to clarify each other. do you more often use equal in the UK?

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posted March 23, 2012 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hskahn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
SaggiMC
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posted March 20, 2012 03:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by hskahn:
@dysfunctionalmystic:======================================================
chiron is 18 scorp in my 6th. square a troubled ic/mc.

1948 Chiron Crossing Saturn's Orbit Moving Outward
June 13, 1948

so chiron in the 6th--how does this relate to family abandonment issues except that i need healing from it. any suggestions for this?


is it within 5' of 7th house cusp by any chance??

chiron here is learning to be of service to others and look after your health at the same time..

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all that you post on chiron is very interesting. my son has an energetic but serious chart (Mars-Saturn type) but other young people in my life with who i am quite close are pluto dominant--trying whether they know it or not to transform their lives from the patterns set by childhood.

my chiron is 6th house (house of my chart ruler mercury) and i have 4 planets in my 3rd (gemini's house/i have gemini rising) w/ mercury in virgo and uranus (exaltation of mercy) in the first, well-aspected. integration of my mind into the big picture--perhaps i see here my interest in zen meditation lol

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posted March 29, 2012 03:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hskahn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SaggiMC:
Of course this cannot happen with Equal house system (which most on here seem to follow)

Basic astrology forum, Intercepted signs for Placidus http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000705.html
To enter this forum you need an extra password – astrology….


this is my chart: i wonder what you think of my cardinal t-square.

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=vwjfileKFJfdV-u1331894290&lang=e&gm=a1&nhor=1&nho2=1&btyp=2&mth=gw&sday=23&smon=3&syr=2012&hsy=2&zod=&orbp=&rs=0&ast=

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