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MissVenus
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posted March 17, 2012 04:14 PM
  
How would you interpret Pluto in VII house in a man's natal chart?
Ruler of the VII house is Libra, Venus is in Leo, in V house (V house in Cancer).
Pluto in VII house in Scorpio, forms opposition with Jupiter, squares with Sun, Mercury and Venus and sextiles with Neptune and MC.IP: Logged |
Doux Rêve
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posted March 17, 2012 04:41 PM
Major power struggles with women in his life.
Especially with all those squares.He either attracts manipulative, obsessive, jealous women or he is the one playing out these traits when in a relationship. Maybe even both. It's all about power here, he'd probably want to have the upper hand in any relationship. IP: Logged |
MissVenus
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posted March 17, 2012 05:31 PM
Yes, definitely a very demanding person, I agree.
The rest of the chart seems fine, with planets concentrated in V house and in IX house.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted March 17, 2012 05:38 PM
the astrologer who hosts the monthly astrology meeting i go to has pluto in the 7th and she says it indicates being private about relationships,and we have never met her husbandIP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 17, 2012 05:42 PM
The objective is to be able the yield out of love and share power. My Pluto is in the 7th House in Virgo. I married a very powerful woman and I'm just fine with her taking the lead. There are no power issues in the household and we've been married for 19 years. IP: Logged |
MissVenus
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posted March 17, 2012 05:57 PM
This man's Sun is in Leo, in V house, Asc in Aries so he's not the perfect example of letting go of the lead.
What got me thinking is a section of an article I read which said that VII house Pluto people tend to be aggressive partners (not necessarily physical).IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 17, 2012 06:07 PM
Not necessarily aggressive with their partners. Heck I'm aggressive with my career. Cross swords with me and I'll cut your head off. I'm super gentle with my love, my children, and no one else. My wife is a Leo. She'll snap your head off if you anger her. Doesn't mean the aggression is taken out on me. IP: Logged |
MissVenus
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posted March 17, 2012 06:37 PM
You're Leo, too?
Because this
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I'm super gentle with my love, my children, and no one else.
sounds exactly like the Leo man I'm asking questions about here.
I don't find him aggressive, I actually don't mind him taking the lead at all, but sometimes he can be rather difficult to deal with, I admit that.
I also read that Pluto in VII means two (or more) marriages.
I don't see how that position can be interpreted that way.IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 17, 2012 06:54 PM
No. I'm a Capricorn. My wife is a Leo. I intend to stay married forever. My wife is not only my true love, she's my best friend for life. We've been married for almost two decades. IP: Logged |
MissVenus
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posted March 17, 2012 07:08 PM
That sounds beautiful  I don't see how Pluto can mean two marriages, as a matter of fact, I don't see Pluto as a planet with that type of influence, that's why I asked. IP: Logged |
BrightStar23
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posted March 17, 2012 07:16 PM
My intuition tells me this placement means the person is on an unconscious level wanting relationships to be deep and intense. "a powerful love". Also that they would not want a weak woman- but a strong one, someone who captivates them- a true match.IP: Logged |
Delilah
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posted March 17, 2012 07:19 PM
Whomever he marries or is committed to is going to be a strong woman. There are so many possible outcomes for this and I agree with Aquaguy that it can also mean that the person is secretive about their marriage. Also, you need to look at the entire chart to distinguish whether he'll be the controlling, manipulative, and demanding person in his relationships. YTA, what you have said makes a lot of sense. Pluto in the 7H would give power to a couple and make the spouse pretty strong. This is also the house of business and legal contracts as well. So, how can we not see Pluto's placement here as additional help? I would say that this is perfect for power couples. You/they will defend what's yours and you make a dangerous opponent for those who would challenge what you have built together. However, you have to take the whole chart into consideration to see if you will be this fortunate or just end up with a control freak. IP: Logged |
MissVenus
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posted March 17, 2012 07:25 PM
That's my husband, so thank you for the indirect compliments
He's is not manipulative, which is great, because I truly despise manipulative people, but he can be demanding and somewhat controlling, I admit.IP: Logged |
SaggiMC
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posted March 17, 2012 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by MissVenus:
How would you interpret Pluto in VII house in a man's natal chart?
Ruler of the VII house is Libra, Venus is in Leo, in V house (V house in Cancer).
Pluto in VII house in Scorpio, forms opposition with Jupiter, squares with Sun, Mercury and Venus and sextiles with Neptune and MC.
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Delilah
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posted March 17, 2012 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by MissVenus:
That's my husband, so thank you for the indirect compliments
He's is not manipulative, which is great, because I truly despise manipulative people, but he can be demanding and somewhat controlling, I admit.
 People with this placement do not pick weak spouses, but God have mercy on the person he defends you against. IP: Logged |
MissVenus
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posted March 17, 2012 08:51 PM
Thank you, SaggiMC Delilah, I've heard him say (before we got married, or even dated) that his wife has to have a very strong personality, so I am very happy to fit in that criteria.
This Pluto scared me a bit, because I don't see him as abusive (both emotionally and physically); demanding, yes, but abusive no, he's more of a protector. IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted March 17, 2012 11:16 PM
I dated a pluto conjunct scorpy moon (1.3 degree) in 7th house man. Never again. I think if he didn't have control, he would go completely insane. The guy possessed too many qualities that I should have stayed away from. Lesson learnt lol. IP: Logged |
Lioness
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posted March 18, 2012 01:45 AM
I have Libra pluto in H7.
Also Cancer Venus sq pluto but in H4. I married a guy with sun conjunct pluto (both in virgo) My dsc also in Virgo. My relationships are very intense. In the beginning its like you cant be away from that person.. I do have some power struggles, but I dont think its as bad as it may seem.
Although I do worry about loosing control. I do have to maintain my own person and have control of myself.. not the other person.
The relationships I have had the men seem to think of me as their property..
Which doesnt work for me.. When that happens I leave (also uranus in H7) Another thing my relationships are very transforming.. Im never the same person after a relationship is over.
I always learn and grow from them..
In ways it helps me figure out me, and what I want and need. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted March 18, 2012 09:52 AM
Let me provide further clarity. I'm a Uranus in 7th House as well in Virgo. I'm going to just state what works for me and wish that nobody pass judgment. I believe that marriage works when a team concept is implemented. Two warriors work best when they act collaboratively against the enemy, not over internal power struggles. My wife rules the household. She makes all decision as it relates to the household. She may ask me my opinion, but most decisions are unilateral and final. She has final veto power. I am the breadwinner. I supply money and resources. I make all investment decisions and have absolute decision authority over large expenditures. Such as homes, automobiles, timing of major vacations, and most importantly, the shifting of investment accounts. The logic is that each person would be in the best position to make decisions in their respective domains. It's also a function of me not worrying about what the boys should have on their pizza, or whether the bag less vacumn cleaner is worse for allergies. Those are decisions that my wife knows. I stick to the money making, which is much like the hunter gathering food. My wife thinks of me as her property. So... IP: Logged |
MissVenus
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posted March 18, 2012 01:38 PM
My husband doesn't have the brightest Pluto aspects (mainly squares), but his behaviour resembles the most what Lioness said.IP: Logged |
SaggiMC
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posted March 18, 2012 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by MissVenus:
Thank you, SaggiMC Delilah, I've heard him say (before we got married, or even dated) that his wife has to have a very strong personality, so I am very happy to fit in that criteria.
This Pluto scared me a bit, because I don't see him as abusive (both emotionally and physically); demanding, yes, but abusive no, he's more of a protector.
you see, it ALL depends on how his pluto is aspected natally. this will explain how it expresses LOL IP: Logged |
SaggiMC
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posted March 18, 2012 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Lioness:
I have Libra pluto in H7.
Also Cancer Venus sq pluto but in H4. I married a guy with sun conjunct pluto (both in virgo) My dsc also in Virgo. My relationships are very intense. In the beginning its like you cant be away from that person.. I do have some power struggles, but I dont think its as bad as it may seem.
Although I do worry about loosing control. I do have to maintain my own person and have control of myself.. not the other person.
The relationships I have had the men seem to think of me as their property..
Which doesnt work for me.. When that happens I leave (also uranus in H7) Another thing my relationships are very transforming.. Im never the same person after a relationship is over.
I always learn and grow from them..
In ways it helps me figure out me, and what I want and need.
I had a little snigger at this as I have uranus conj desc in 7th and pluto late 7th conj 8th well aspected. Uranus is square sun/moon to boot. you are correct any problems that make me ill after trying a few times, I will walk away for self preservation reasons...LOL But having said this both my husbands were unfaithful and couldn't keep it in their trousers I get this,"I have had the men seem to think of me as their property.." But don't you think with 7th naturally ruled by libra, we really are looking for fairness and balance? IP: Logged |
SaggiMC
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posted March 18, 2012 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by MissVenus:
This man's Sun is in Leo, in V house, Asc in Aries so he's not the perfect example of letting go of the lead.
What got me thinking is a section of an article I read which said that VII house Pluto people tend to be aggressive partners (not necessarily physical).
I think having mars in 7th could suggests someone assertive and combative and/or argumentative if mars is afflicted IP: Logged |
SaggiMC
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posted March 18, 2012 05:11 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
Let me provide further clarity. I'm a Uranus in 7th House as well in Virgo. I'm going to just state what works for me and wish that nobody pass judgment. I believe that marriage works when a team concept is implemented. Two warriors work best when they act collaboratively against the enemy, not over internal power struggles. My wife rules the household. She makes all decision as it relates to the household. She may ask me my opinion, but most decisions are unilateral and final. She has final veto power. I am the breadwinner. I supply money and resources. I make all investment decisions and have absolute decision authority over large expenditures. Such as homes, automobiles, timing of major vacations, and most importantly, the shifting of investment accounts. The logic is that each person would be in the best position to make decisions in their respective domains. It's also a function of me not worrying about what the boys should have on their pizza, or whether the bag less vacumn cleaner is worse for allergies. Those are decisions that my wife knows. I stick to the money making, which is much like the hunter gathering food. My wife thinks of me as her property. So...
I think this is prob the Traditonal role and one of which I readily associate. It's a partnership for sure. But for longevity it takes work, effort. It's just Sooooo easy to become complacent, take each other for granted, get lazy. I here this every day working on the lines as tarot reader. people get stuck in a rut, they come home from home from work, have their meal, sit and watch TV and then go to bed and don't really *communicate* with your partner. I recommend get the TV off, open a bottle of wine and really talk. Couples have such expectations but don't always check to see if they match the others' *expectations* IP: Logged |
SaggiMC
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posted March 18, 2012 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
No. I'm a Capricorn. My wife is a Leo. I intend to stay married forever. My wife is not only my true love, she's my best friend for life. We've been married for almost two decades.
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