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KarkaQueen
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posted March 18, 2012 10:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend and her boyfriend have this aspect in their synastry. She is in obsessed with him but she is controlling, possessive, and easily jealous. Yet she fails to see this. Is this common for the Pluto person not to see what they are doing wrong?

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ail221
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posted March 18, 2012 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I thought the Pluto person was usually the one more in control and not obsessive in the relationship versus the moon person. Hmmm It could be another placement.

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KarkaQueen
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posted March 18, 2012 11:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ail221:
I thought the Pluto person was usually the one more in control and not obsessive in the relationship versus the moon person. Hmmm It could be another placement.

yes, it is Pluto square Moon. The Moon person is supposed to be controlling and possessive?

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posted March 18, 2012 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariesdragon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol yes it is the Pluto person imo
Just speaking of my own personal experience with a Pluto square venus

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posted March 19, 2012 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It could go either way.

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posted March 19, 2012 03:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Iam in a moon pluto relationship DW.
His pluto square my moon and my pluto sextile his moon.
After a year togheter I still feel this like healing. Obsessed feelings can heal.

Im not an controlling person and not my boyfriend either.

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KarkaQueen
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posted March 19, 2012 04:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by popcorn:
Iam in a moon pluto relationship DW.
His pluto square my moon and my pluto sextile his moon.
After a year togheter I still feel this like healing. Obsessed feelings can heal.

Im not an controlling person and not my boyfriend either.


what are the other aspects?

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posted March 19, 2012 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
KarkaQueen. We are born the same year. Ive moon square pluto also in my natal and he have moon sextile pluto in his natal. Thats make things difference..Im also born in an moon-pluto family.

His pluto also in exactly parallel to my N moon. His moon in scorpio. His Draconic pluto conj my N moon exactly. Ive an exactly parallel moon-pluto in my Natal.

My boyfriend and I will not use our feelings on jealousy or controlling manner. If I see any tendence like that I will leave. I think he also will do. Im to old to be in an bad relationship. I follow my feelings. Good feelings.


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posted March 19, 2012 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes pluto aspects can reverse like that, pluto usually has the upper hand. My x husband had his pluto conj my venus and I was controlling and crazy jealous, not him. Now My pluto squares my current mans venus and he is jealous ans a tad controlling. BUT His pluto is squaring my moon 1* so im feeling the jealous, possesive thing too, hmmm.

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posted March 19, 2012 11:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 5Gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have two friends with same synastry placement. They are not together anymore because of her jealousy, possesivness and paranoia.

But they had LOTS of squares between their personal planets, including Venus square Mars.

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posted March 19, 2012 02:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
My friend and her boyfriend have this aspect in their synastry. She is in obsessed with him but she is controlling, possessive, and easily jealous. Yet she fails to see this. Is this common for the Pluto person not to see what they are doing wrong?

ALl depends on what orbs you used. did you reduce the orb ratio at all?

you have pluto square sun NOT moon http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002970.html

also pluto trine mars trine venus

I still waiting for you to post the ASPECT GRID for a more detailed analysis in PR forum

You also have venus conj uranus very tight!

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posted March 19, 2012 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you read about the planets separately... you'll find that the Moon can be clingy.. while Pluto can be obsessive.

Obsession is not really a Moon trait. Love/affection/devotion are all Moon key-words.
Pluto does not know how to love.. Pluto wants to possess.. which is not the same as loving someone. But in the positive manifestation of this aspect Pluto should learn to let go of control and give in to more caring/sweet emotions... while the Moon should learn to develop a thicker skin.

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posted March 19, 2012 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I thought the Pluto person was usually the one more in control and not obsessive

But that's how they acquire control.. If they were not obsessed they wouldn't even want control. . They are obsessed with having the other person all to themselves - mind/body and soul.

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posted March 19, 2012 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by popcorn:
KarkaQueen. We are born the same year. Ive moon square pluto also in my natal and he have moon sextile pluto in his natal. Thats make things difference..Im also born in an moon-pluto family.

His pluto also in exactly parallel to my N moon. His moon in scorpio. His Draconic pluto conj my N moon exactly. Ive an exactly parallel moon-pluto in my Natal.

My boyfriend and I will not use our feelings on jealousy or controlling manner. If I see any tendence like that I will leave. I think he also will do. Im to old to be in an bad relationship. I follow my feelings. Good feelings.



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posted March 19, 2012 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was in a moon /Pluto DW relationship. My Pluto conj his moon(3). His Pluto sq my moon (exact) I was obsessed

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posted March 19, 2012 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interested in this subject...what is the general concensus of a mans pluto conj/square/opp a womans moon 1*? Who is obsessed/posessive? What about the sexual attraction of this aspect? I think its pretty hot and intense...Could it be simular to a womans venus aspecting his pluto as the moon and venus are the ultimate female planets.

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posted March 19, 2012 07:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interested in this subject...what is the general concensus of a mans pluto conj/square/opp a womans moon 1*? Who is obsessed/posessive? What about the sexual attraction of this aspect? I think its pretty hot and intense...Could it be simular to a womans venus aspecting his pluto as the moon and venus are the ultimate female planets.

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posted September 10, 2012 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmpressMendez     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to bump this up.

In our synastry we have his pluto square my moon. I'm the "obsessive" and jealous one. I guess it also depends on your natal chart placements as well. I have scorpio pluto in 8th house square my moon, so it makes sense. I have a Cancer moon and he has a Sag moon.

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Reviving this thread, just to share my experience.
I have double whammy with my mum, and we also have moon conjunct ASC double whammy.

I can confirm that this is by far my most difficult relationship. Everything is just a bliss in comparison to this. It's funny because our charts have so many parallels, and in some ways we are alike, but at the same time we have this deep-rooted hate towards each other. Don't get me wrong, we never say we hate each other, we still live together and we have to endure this time in the best possible way, but the verbal violence is constantly present. It's like we evoke our primal, most primitive negative feelings..
I do love her, with all my heart, of course, she's my mum, but it's impossible to deal with her on a daily basis. She has the insatiable need to control me, and subconscious urge to degrade me, to "put me in my place", she is constantly saying: "I'm saying that you're this and this, lazy, stupid, totally unmotivated, debauched etc., because YOU SHOULD REALIZE THIS." I've also said some bad things to her in the past, but they've always had a reason, or she provoked me. Now I just don't bother anymore, I stay silent and withdraw, although it takes a lot effort. I'm a very rational person, while she is just incredibly irrational, extremely subjective in all her dealings with people. I think this aspect just amplifies her irrationality towards me. Most of the times we are not able to hold a normal, adult conversation, and believe me, I've tried. She doesn't see our relationship in terms of facts, what really happened, but in her emotionally distorted view. It is always connected with power games, her favourite phrase is: this is my house, my rules, i'm in charge here... and other immature statements.

This relationship has taken most of my emotional energy in the past and it was so hard to the point when I almost had panic attacks (otherwise I'm a super collected person). I've moved out once and she took that as a personal attack, because i "hated her, was ungrateful" etc. although I never said that, and there were clearly other reasons involved, but she just wouldn't listen to my explanations. She continued with emotional extortion, until I returned after a year. Then she would use my return as an example of my failure and week will and throw it at my face. Now I'm moving out again, this time for real, with no intentions to return again, she doesn't know yet, because I can predict her reactions and I don't want to listen to them any more than few days before I move out.

I have no experience with this aspect in love synastry, which is presumably what most of you are interested in, but I have no doubt that it would only bring control issues, subconscious, primal fears and urges, ugly ugly emotions... I see no positive sides of the aspect, maybe it's because I'm not Plutonian, but that's my perspective.

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posted February 28, 2019 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Any more people with personal experience with this aspect?

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posted February 28, 2019 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.

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