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Gem-Gurl
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posted March 23, 2012 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gem-Gurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I know the rising sign is a big one but are there any others?

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posted March 23, 2012 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
-Rising
-Risings ruler
-What sign the ruler is and the aspects it makes
-What house the ruler is in
-Planets in the first house
-Sun and Moon factor in as well to complete the look

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posted March 23, 2012 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
+ Asc ruler + Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, stellium, something conj an angle, conjunctions, a Sun/Pluto person can resemble a Scorpio, Venus/Uranus people share certain qualities.
You mix it all together and you have a type. It's not just one thing, more of a combo of factors.
You see this in families where they will often have repeated themes in their charts, the physical manifestation of that will be similar looks.
Or those funny couples that look like siblings, same thing.

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posted March 24, 2012 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I personally do not believe astrology controls how anyone physically looks. That's purely genetics.

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posted March 24, 2012 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geminisquared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I personally do not believe astrology controls how anyone physically looks. That's purely genetics.


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posted March 24, 2012 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RegardesPlatero     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 24, 2012 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by RegardesPlatero:
I believe that genetics determines things, but, at the same, certain signs DO have certain looks to them, so I would say that the signs come into play.

Genetics, for example, might give you your eye color, nose shape, etc., but I still can see a person's astrology in their looks, too, in many cases. I haven't figured out how this works, to be honest.

I'd say that the strongest astrological things would be the sun, moon, Venus, and ASC, at least from what I've observed in other people.



I agree with this. Virgos tend to have cute little upturned noses and "classic" good looks, Sagittarians long faces and straight noses, and Aquarians very square faces and jaws.

These are just the signs with very obvious ones that I've noticed.

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posted March 24, 2012 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 24, 2012 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find the First House to be very telling.

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posted March 24, 2012 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gem-Gurl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do i find out what my risings ruler is? And does the second house influnce some of your look? Iv been told i look like a sagittarius (my 2nd house). Either that or ppk dont know what they are talking about lol

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posted March 24, 2012 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for s4nd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted March 24, 2012 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you don't think astrology determines the way people take in your appearance you have alot to learn.

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posted March 24, 2012 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience - when two people have *exact* personal planet conjunctions.. they look alike or have a very similar vibe.

It applies even more so when it is the same planet.. For example, if a person has Mars at 2 Scorpio and another person also has Mars at 2 Scorpio -- rather than Moon or Mercury at 2 Scorpio.
I am not actually sure why the orb is so significant.. It could be because of duads and decanates. A planet that is slightly 'off' that degree, might be in a different duad/decanate.

And of course genes matter.. so it will be easier to spot these similarities when the people involved are of the same race & ethnicity.
However, through lots of practice... you can learn to spot the similarities in facial expression - regardless of surface differences in skin colour, eye colour etc.

PS. Sometimes astro-sites out there will describe particular features and characteristics that the signs have. This *may* be somewhat true.. But I personally don't find it helpful.
I think you can only accurately learn to guess people's signs - in relation to OTHER people you have seen and known.

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posted March 24, 2012 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ yeah! There's currently this guy on tv that looks alot like this guy I like. Like the resemblance is pretty uncanny. Except the guy I like is alot taller, in better shape and dresses alot better. But omg! They have similar placements. I literally loled when I checked out the guy on tv's dob.

The guy on tv had a virgo sun and libra moon (like me!) and virgo mercury, venus and gemini mars.

While the guy I'm into has leo sun (29 degrees), leo moon, leo venus (29 degrees), virgo mercury (1 degrees), virgo mars (0 degrees).So just all the 4 planets conjuncting within a 2 degree orb at most.

So they both have venus hard aspect mars, sun conjunct mercury, mercury hard aspect mars, sun conjunct venus and venus conjunct mercury. So aspects definitely affect the way you look!

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posted March 24, 2012 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarkaQueen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doesn't it only count if the planet is at most 10 degrees away from the Ascendant?

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posted March 24, 2012 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
If you don't think astrology determines the way people take in your appearance you have alot to learn.

Oh, well this I can agree with. Of course astrology can determine how your appearance is received. It also determines how your appearance is given off. Same goes with overall body language and quality.

When I hear the word appearance though, I typically think of hair color, eye color, chin shape, dimples. etc. That I do not believe has any relation to astrology; it's not consistent enough. How that gets presented and used though, that does hold some weight.

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posted March 24, 2012 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have dimples, and I really think it's my libra. Nobody in my family has them, or my extended family either. At least the ones I've met.

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posted March 24, 2012 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
Oh, well this I can agree with. Of course astrology can determine how your appearance is received. It also determines how your appearance is given off. Same goes with overall body language and quality.

When I hear the word appearance though, I typically think of hair color, eye color, chin shape, dimples. etc. That I do not believe has any relation to astrology; it's not consistent enough. How that gets presented and used though, that does hold some weight.


i agree to a great extent,you do have to take in genetics and race,because obviously a black or asian aqua ascendant isnt going to look like a caucasian aqua ascendant,but almost all caucasian aqua males i know are tall,fair skinned, square jaw as mentioned above and light colored eyes. also i have notice alot of families share certain aspects or placements. i look like my dad and he is a taurus sun,im a taurus moon, and we share aqua ascendants, my brother looks like mom and they both are leo ascendants, my mom has aries moon,my bro has mars in the first house. i have seen similar themes in other families as well.

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posted March 24, 2012 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
also my celebrity look alike is matt dillon and me and him share the same sun,moon,ascendant combo,now im not claiming to look exactly like him,he has darker hair and eyes but our face shapes and expressions are uncanny,but he has alot of pluto darkening things up abit

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posted March 24, 2012 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tautomer4314     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i agree to a great extent,you do have to take in genetics and race,because obviously a black or asian aqua ascendant isnt going to look like a caucasian aqua ascendant,but almost all caucasian aqua males i know are tall,fair skinned, square jaw as mentioned above and light colored eyes. also i have notice alot of families share certain aspects or placements. i look like my dad and he is a taurus sun,im a taurus moon, and we share aqua ascendants, my brother looks like mom and they both are leo ascendants, my mom has aries moon,my bro has mars in the first house. i have seen similar themes in other families as well.

Well, I do share a few chart similarities with my mom as we are both libra rising. Not much else, Although me and her get along super super well.

With my dad though, there isn't too much of a similarity between us at all except we're both plutonian. Him and I have had a rough relationship for a while.

I have no sibblings.

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posted March 24, 2012 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gem-Gurl:
How do i find out what my risings ruler is? And does the second house influnce some of your look? Iv been told i look like a sagittarius (my 2nd house). Either that or ppk dont know what they are talking about lol



You can post the chart. But generally H2 as in Taurus won't figure in unless there's a luminary there.
Sagittarius maybe you have a luminary in the 9th. Or look to see what Jupiter is doing.
I've been told I look like a Virgo & have Moon (luminary) + Venus in the 6th.

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posted March 24, 2012 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Betty Boop:
I am not actually sure why the orb is so significant.. It could be because of duads and decanates. A planet that is slightly 'off' that degree, might be in a different duad/decanate.

And of course genes matter.. so it will be easier to spot these similarities when the people involved are of the same race & ethnicity.
However, through lots of practice... you can learn to spot the similarities in facial expression - regardless of surface differences in skin colour, eye colour etc.



I agree with this in that there is a wide variance for each sign, so it is true you really have to take the time to sift through hundreds of images before it clicks.
I first did that w.Capricorn Moons, just cos I was a skeptic on the whole looks thing. It was pretty amazing. I saw the difference in features from early to mid to late degrees.
After that I started looking at ASC.
I used the face match on myHeritage and then looked up the astro data of the celebs and then put it all together.

One thing I forgot to mention is that opposite signs will often swap physical characteristics, which can throw you off.

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posted March 24, 2012 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BackToEarth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gem-Gurl -
What do you think of Colin Ferrel? He's a Gemini Sun/Cancer Moon too.

There's a lot of different ways to go regarding a person's looks, many have been said. I'll try to offer something different, if you think of it in terms of moods or present experiences, or phases one goes thru... could also be that whichever Planets are being affected the most, or are in some way illuminated, could also determine how one looks at a particular time.

So if you're down in the dumps, you might look more like traits commonly associated w/your Moon Sign, and remember to consider your Aspects to the Moon in your Chart, and what House it's in to know in what area of your life it may be more noticeable.

So if your Moon is in the 3rd House, the people who might notice what you're going thru the most might be neighbors & siblings. That type of thing.

If you're in love, perhaps you'll look more like your Venus Sign, and the way you look may be more noticed by areas of your life that pertain to the House our Venus is in.

If you're feeling ultra sexy or very angry, maybe Mars, etc.


Regardless, most of the time we have a lot less control over how we appear to others because each person will see something, or think something, different. A person who is looking for a superficial romp might not be much impressed over your Ph.D degree. Someone who is your serious partner in biology lab class might not care much about how attractive you are, etc.

I think as long as one doesn't go overboard with cosmetic surgery, the true map of one's life is in their face when they are much older. You might see the face of someone who had a sweeeet Venus placement, but experienced tragic loses in love due to a harsh Aspect, or perhaps, how they dealt with the harsh Aspect.


tautomer4314 =
Part of what I wrote above was keeping your post in mind. So, let's say someone has a Cancer Sun & Moon & Asc. If someone is a worry wart all their life they'll probably have some worry lines dug into the forehead.

Keep your eyes open and look for things like Capricorn babies who appear much wiser & mature than their counterparts. The Capricorn becomes more youthful with age.

There's a lot of those tidbits you'll hear about along the way.

I bet that even before astrology came to light, people were already noticing the phenomenon of two people looking the same in terms of "essence", when they weren't even related. And that some started keeping track of time for the purpose of explaining how people born at certain times had similarities.

It could be similarities in the actual shape of a body part, but it could also be gestures, or image-wise. How many times have we all placed a judgement on someone from first impression, to find later that it was something we arbitrarily projected onto them?

Or how many times have we thought someone was absolutely gorgeous and we wished we could be them? Only to feel completely different a few years down the line?

Consider that "genetic make-up" sometimes has nothing to do with how one looks, even to oneself.

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posted March 24, 2012 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lonake:
+ Asc ruler + Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars, stellium, something conj an angle, conjunctions, a Sun/Pluto person can resemble a Scorpio, Venus/Uranus people share certain qualities.

Yes, take the Ascendant ruler into consideration, both sign, placement and aspects. Also a planet conjunct the ASC. can totally change the demeanor of the person. My boyfriend has Aquarius rising but Jupiter is exactly conjunct his ASC. He seems more happy go lucky and just goofy compared to other Aqua risers.

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posted March 24, 2012 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Planet Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by tautomer4314:
I personally do not believe astrology controls how anyone physically looks. That's purely genetics.


I agree, but certain physical features are more pronounced depending on a heavy emphasis on a sign etc...

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