posted March 26, 2012 01:11 PM            

I've started a new thread so that maybe we can get information on here.

Add links, personal stories. If you want ot quote someone please have something meaningful to say, not "Oh that's interesting. Oh cool. Awesome. I feel that way sometimes too."

I want it to be a good exchange of ideas. I don't really care for making a huge thread about nothing.

Soooo I hope I don't sound bitchy...Ugh, I might I don't mean to be. I hope you guys understand.

posted March 26, 2012 01:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Dreaming111: http://www.shreevedic.in/astrologer/articles_details.aspx?name=VAC&atId=213
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1 romance flower in the spouse palace and 1 more in the hour pillar which i link to pluto being on my asc. star of true love is in the year pillar. far from day so abit hard to access but present in the chart.

in the magi i have a yod to chiron in h8 so i wonder how they read it there.. neptune and pluto r the legs but it's the same for everyone born near me..

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Originally posted by RunAroundScreaming:
Wow! I've always wondered what the difference is between love and lust astrologically! I have never felt list without love attached to it, so it's very hard for me to picture! Anyone want to contribute their theories?
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some cannot really separate it iz my theory. i cannot. doubt i ever will. some might disagree but to me earth water cannot. water rules my asc, my h5, and earth rules my h7..

posted March 26, 2012 01:16 PM            

i dunno bout these but doesn't hurt to look..see my chiron and juno r both in h8! as i was saying, cannot separate.
chiron and juno in gemini h8.

chiron sextile moon

chiron inconj pluto/ neptune

(a yod)

aspects to juno:

juno sextile mercury

juno opposite neptune

juno trine pluto

More on Chiron-Juno from the Magi Society 7/8/2004: http://www.magiastrology.com/toomanyjuno.htm
•According to Magi Astrology, Chiron Linkages are not just signs of enduring love, but Chiron Linkages actually actively create the conditions necessary for a couple to marry; on the other hand, Juno Linkages impede the development of the conditions necessary for a couple to marry.
•Some of the reasons for this are that according to Magi Astrology, Juno is ruler of the mistress, the affair that does not lead to marriage, the desire to remain single, and disrespect for the institution of marriage. Juno rules sex outside of marriage, sex without commitment, sex without love, sex without feelings, unwed mothers, children out of wedlock, and being less responsible than one should be. Â
•Whereas in Magi Astrology, Chiron is the ruler of commitment, true love, marriage and having children through marriage.

 To help utilize the above information, Magi Astrology has developed the following rules:
 •      Chiron versus Juno Rule One: Any Chiron Linkage formed between the two persons increases the chances of marriage between two persons, except the Chiron/Juno linkage.

•      Chiron versus Juno Rule Two: Any Juno linkage formed between two persons reduces the chances of marriage between the two persons, except the Chiron/Juno Linkage.

•      Chiron Versus Juno Rule Three: The Chiron/Juno linkage neither increases nor decreases the chances of marriage; it does however greatly increase the chances of a long-term intimate relationship between two heterosexual persons (it does not increase the chances of a long-term intimate relationship between same-sex couples). Â

 In Magi Astrology, the Chiron/Juno Linkage is not a Chiron Linkage, and it is not a Juno Linkage. We are not trying to be cute but it is a Chiron/Juno Linkage and a sign of long-term togetherness that neither tilts toward marriage nor away from marriage. For this reason, the Magi Society refers to the Chiron/Juno Linkage as the Long-Term Linkage.

Chiron and Juno:
•Chiron is the planet that points to your soul mate, symbolizes true love, and represents romantic attachment and commitment, while Juno is the planet that creates illusions, symbolizes lust, and represents sexual attachment and relationships that may never fulfill their potential.

 Because of the above, Magi Astrology has the following two essential rules for the Astrology of Love:

RULE OF EXCESSIVE CHIRON CLASHES:
• When a couple form too many Chiron Clashes, their relationship will be turbulent and will most likely end in Heartbreak.

RULE OF EXCESSIVE JUNO LINKAGES:
• When a couple form too many Juno Linkages, their relationship is built on illusions and unattainable dreams and will most likely end in Heartbreak.

Other Male Sexual Aspects:
 These can be ANY aspect, but Enhancements are Stronger.
•Mars-Neptune

•Mars-Uranus

•Mars-Chiron Â

Male Super Sexual Aspects:
•Juno-Venus
Juno-Venus rules 'Sex without Commitment'

Other Male Super Sexual Aspects:

 These can be ANY aspect, but Enhancements are Stronger.
•Mars-Pluto Â

•Mars-Neptune Â

•Venus-Mars

Womanizer for Men: or Female Who Just Wants to Have Fun:
•Juno-Venus rules 'Sex without Commitment'

•Venus-Uranus Natal Aspect

Female Sexual Aspects: (These more address an urge for family or pro-creation.)
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These can be ANY aspect, but Enhancements are Stronger.

Chiron Makes Love with Emotional Attachment and Commitment
•Mars-Neptune Â

•Mars-Chiron Â

Female Super Sexual Aspects:
 These can be ANY aspect, but Enhancements are Stronger.
•Venus-Juno and Chiron-Juno Enhancements gives 'Enormous Sex Appeal'
•Venus-Pluto Â

•Venus-Mars http://www.jupitersweb.com/magi-astrology-aspects.html

posted March 26, 2012 01:17 PM            

Love on the other hand is when you care for someone, when you worry about their well-being, when you want to see them smile and be happy. When you want to be there for them at all times.
That would be the Moon, I think.

posted March 26, 2012 01:18 PM            

Lust = Intense desire to " have" the person, consume them and thus fool oneself into thinking that you have embodied whatever attracted you irresistibly to them, by penetrating or being penetrated - thus acquire them.
Period.

Love = Intense feeling of harmony, bliss and oneness with someone, intense desire to merge with them physically because you already feel one with them in spirit, a deep, burning desire to give yourself to them in every way possible, without thinking about what you get in return - sex included.

posted March 26, 2012 01:20 PM            

I agree with seeleah, Mars/Venus are more on the physical side.
I think Sun/Moon, Moon/Venus, and maybe Sun/Venus aspects add the feelings.
There are other things of course, maybe IC/4th house connections? Or any angle connection for that matter.

posted March 26, 2012 01:20 PM            

I feel like sun and moon aspects lean more toward love than mars and venus which I feel lean more toward lust.
I suppose mars and venus is nice IF there are sun and moon aspects. Otherwise it's a train off the tracks, it's gonna crash and burn badly.

posted March 26, 2012 06:35 PM            

Moon conjunct/trine or sextile Venus
Moon conjunct/trine or sextile Moon
Moon conjunct, trine or sextile Pluto/Neptune
Venus conjunct, trine or sextile Pluto/Neptune
Moon conjunct NN.. or Venus conjunct NN
Moon or Venus conjunct IC or DC

It's also reallllly nice if you can find double whammies with those ^

Aspects I associate with pure lust: